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Conspiracy wise, I'm all in, but that doesnt mean I dont have questions or pushback. No disrespect to anyone because I find all of this both fascinating and at times humorous. However, I don't think people realize how hard acting is (and how stressful and difficult living a lie is). There are very few Daniel Day Lewis's or Cate Blanchett's in the world and actors of this caliber spend a lifetime developing their craft. So where is this army of thousands of world class actors behind every psy op and false flag operation that is going on every second of everyday throughout the world and human history? Who are these super human actors that never break character, never give a line reading, never go off script, never forget their lines, and never reveal their true intentions (or identities) even though everything they say and do is a lie? And let's please don't go down the MK Ultra/Manchurian Candidate/Lizard People rabbit hole on this one. If need be, start a new thread on Mind Control.
I don't think it's too much to ask for the names and addresses of the members of this 5D Chess Super Army. And let's not have the usual suspects of Klaus Schwab and George Soros please. I want the names of the operators, the one's who planted the explosives on 911 (it must of taken at least a team of 10 professional demolition men and not one has ever spilled the beans or been gotten to by a journalist?). If the Saudi pilots were being directed by Mossad then what are those Mossad agents names? Again, it just seems like people have every angle except the actual identity of operatives in the field. Next I feel like someone's going to say: "Actually, planes didn't really fly into the Twin Towers. It was really a Project Blue Beam hologram that you saw... either that or a demon."
And again, please don't run with this by giving me a bunch of names (right now) and further derailing this thread, I'm using 911 as an example. Someone start a 911 Rabbit Hole Thread and I'll meet all the autists over there to hash things out.
Some are saying with regards to controlled opposition, "They're all controlled but they don't know they're being controlled," and others are saying "They're being controlled and they're willing participants." Fine, people are being controlled. This I think we can all agree on. It's the "how" they're being controlled and to what extent we disagree on.
And yes, start some other threads with conspiracy theory specificity and I'll be your Huckleberry, but I can't go down one giant black hole of "every conspiracy is connected by a cabal of jews who all know each other, have no names or addresses, and oh yeah, they sunk the Titanic."
In this day and age anyone can be gotten to so please go ahead and expose these a-holes (most importantly, the deep layers of the onion, the actual field operators who plant the explosives, do the hits, and actually execute the false flag events).
I don't think it's too much to ask for the names and addresses of the members of this 5D Chess Super Army. And let's not have the usual suspects of Klaus Schwab and George Soros please. I want the names of the operators, the one's who planted the explosives on 911 (it must of taken at least a team of 10 professional demolition men and not one has ever spilled the beans or been gotten to by a journalist?). If the Saudi pilots were being directed by Mossad then what are those Mossad agents names? Again, it just seems like people have every angle except the actual identity of operatives in the field. Next I feel like someone's going to say: "Actually, planes didn't really fly into the Twin Towers. It was really a Project Blue Beam hologram that you saw... either that or a demon."
And again, please don't run with this by giving me a bunch of names (right now) and further derailing this thread, I'm using 911 as an example. Someone start a 911 Rabbit Hole Thread and I'll meet all the autists over there to hash things out.
Some are saying with regards to controlled opposition, "They're all controlled but they don't know they're being controlled," and others are saying "They're being controlled and they're willing participants." Fine, people are being controlled. This I think we can all agree on. It's the "how" they're being controlled and to what extent we disagree on.
And yes, start some other threads with conspiracy theory specificity and I'll be your Huckleberry, but I can't go down one giant black hole of "every conspiracy is connected by a cabal of jews who all know each other, have no names or addresses, and oh yeah, they sunk the Titanic."
In this day and age anyone can be gotten to so please go ahead and expose these a-holes (most importantly, the deep layers of the onion, the actual field operators who plant the explosives, do the hits, and actually execute the false flag events).
We need a 9-11 thread.
But what you just did is a straw man.
You said that I am pushing the
I never said any such thing.
You are familiar with the old forum because I know you from the old forum and you will be familiar with the times that 911 and Zelcorpion were talking about Jewish power in the West and were laughingly dismissed. But they were proved right - IMO.
If you subscribe to the Official 9-11 story then that is up to you.
I believe the mounting evidence that 9-11 and the JFK assassination were attacks on America by World Jewry.
I believe that one of the best journalists on 9-11 who is not also a gatekeeper is Christopher Bollyn.
Here is a video recently uploaded to YouTube where Christopher Bollyn lays out the jewish conspiracy. Bollyn not only lost his job for his work but was beaten up and harassed by the FBI, and eventually had to flee the country.
Here he lays out how the Israeli/jewish plan goes all the way back to 1948 and the King David Hotel bombing where they took down British Army HQ with explosives whilst pretending the Arabs did it (sound familiar?) It wasn't just a bunch of Dancing Israelis.
Notice, per Bollyn, that the jews were very concerned with bringing the west into the fight against THEIR Arab enemies and in order to do so very concerned with using the media to seed the idea that Arabs were going to commit a mass terror attack on America.
Isser Harel, the former head of Mossad, told evangelical Christians visiting Israel in 1979 that "the Arabs are planning to take down your tallest building in New York because it is a symbol of your power". 1979.
The same year I believe. Bibi Nateanyahu gave a talk saying words to the effect that "Israel has the will but not the capability to take on Islamic terrorism. America has the ability but it does not have the will"
Hollywood movies and jews eh? Are we saying that jews DONT run Hollywood?
Bibi Netanyahu through his 'Jonathan Institute' financed a >Hollywood movie< about. a mass terror attack on America called "Black Sunday".
Remember the Black September Palestinian terrorist group?
Well this movie had the Arabs using an airship to attack a US institution - Super Bowl Sunday - and the poster had terrified Americans on the ground fleeing below an exploding airship above them.
Predictive Hollywood Movie made by boss jews about a 9-11 style terror attack to come not 20 years later? Check.
Enter Arnon Milchan.
Arnon Milchan is the 2nd richest and most powerful Hollywood producer, even today. he is also a jew. He is also Mossad.
In the 90s I believe an American paper reported that Milchan was Mossad. Milchan won at least a retraction f not a libel case against the paper THEN he later gave a press conference alongside Israeli Prime Ministers Shimon Peres and Bibi Netanyahu celebrating the fact that he was indeed - a Mossad Agent! who stole 800 nuclear triggers from the US.
Pretty Woman? He produced that. Fight Club with its twin falling buildings at the end? he produced that. The Revenant? He produced that. Good friends with Steven Spielberg and often photographed with him. Oliver Stone, jewish freemason, was bitter about Milchans censorship of his film JFK.
In 1979 Milchan produced a movie about a jet passenger plane crashing into the Pan Am skyscraper, very concerned with the imagery.
Was that a movie about Arabs staging a mass terror attack on the west? No, it wasn't. It was a hokey story with actor Richard Burton about a man with psychic powers but what was important to Milchan was seeding the imagery of planes crashing into NY buildings.
Thats interesting, he was a Hollywood jew who sat down and planned out a movie containing images of an attack that would take place in September 2001. Just like Bibi Netanyahu did with HIS Hollywood move Black Sunday in 1979.
That Has Nothing to Do with Claiming That All Our Lives are somehow pre-Destined or any such Anathema. I hope I've made myself clear.
Here is a video that @Uncle Cr33pin (no crazed conspiracist theorist him) posted on RVF in 2021 saying "some of these are pretty meh.. some of these are pretty.. Wow" (Play in YT)
Some of the examples ARE a little meh, as the WTC was a well known landmark that would appear in computer games and cartoons about alien attacks etc. But some are "interesting to say the least".
There is no 9'11" height limit on LA bridges (Terminator 2) no parking restriction between 9 -11 on LA streets (Lethal Weapon 2) and its interesting that the Matrix claims that Western civilisation declined after 1999. That seemed strange at the time, but seeing the expiry date of 9-11-2001 on Neo's ID makes you wonder. See also Arnies passport in his terrorist film, Collateral Damage, that was already in distribution by the time of 9-11 but whose release was then delayed by 5 months.
Notice that Arnon Milchan produced, with Rupert Murdoch, the pilot for the Lone Gunman (JFK Assassination reference) TV show where a **remote controlled plane is flown into the WTC twin towers** - watched by 10 million - did they sit down and sketch out a movie depicting events that happened 6 months later? This Mossad operative? yes.
Black Sunday.. 1979 The Medusa Touch... 1979 The Lone Gunman..
And I quote..
Exactly.
But we are at the point where we have to litigate and relitigate the fact that Israel was behind the 911 attacks, that powerful Jewry does control much of the world and they do like to show their plans in advance -
See Faucis Milken Institute talk in October 2019 and Event 201 where a Pandemic tabletop exercise was gamed out in New York with all the media present.
here is their faked Covid newsreel made 2 months before Covid supposedly even began its life cycle as a disease
Experts Simulated a Coronavirus Pandemic Last Year and It Killed 65 Million
The mock virus, modeled by public-health experts, revealed major challenges to responding to a coronavirus pandemic.
nymag.com
In earlier pages of the conspiracy thread someone wrote of:
"the occultic idea that you need to tell people what you are doing and get them to go along with it to really get the power that comes with the action/spell."
Are we now saying that it is somehow groundbreaking to say that Hollywood or the Jews or freemasons are in to the Occult? It's ridiculous to say that now?
Honestly why am I even typing this?
Note the same comments poking fun at this by the same people whenever this is brought up.
We had to go through this in the RVF 9-11 thread just over a month ago. I mean it - a month ago, we had this debate. And here I am typing these essays, in my defence, yet again.
In the Russell Brand thread on RVF not two months ago the same people, Red lagoon prominent, were commenting and laughing at my suggestion that Hollywood and the Corridors of power are in the control B'Nai B'rith Jewish freemasonry. It was all so silly. Posting pictures of Hollywood Celebs and saying - "oh look he's a freemason! and he's saying...! and look he's making a hand signal!" ha ha ha
A few weeks ago it was questions asked of me "do you know anyone who ISN'T a freemason or a jew? or a jewish freemason?" ha ha ha. Thankfully on that occasion @MrRedsquare came to my defence.
What was that quote from Hitler about just when you thought you had carried the argument with them, then the next day they start it up again as if the whole previous debate never happened...? Gaslighting.
Now this morning - is it "because they are freemason jews, and freemason jews control the world" (implying that this is ridiculous)
But what's wrong with saying that? And why is Caduceus claiming one moment that B'nai B'rith jew Spielberg had advanced knowledge only because "these sort of things indicate the have the power (only partially) to see into the future. Perhaps with the help of demons, like those things people see (and talk to) when taking the drugs DMT or Ayahuasca. I know Spielberg definitely took Ayahuasca is the 1960s or early 70s."
and then in the next hour agreeing with my critics and suggesting that when I say they were forecasting their plans its because I have Apophrenia? So I'm mentally ill as well, now? Retarded?
But its always the same thing and always the likes of Red Lagoon leading the charge, not with well though out or reasoned arguments, but rather with clown emojis and snark and derision --- the exact same words I typed out in my defence again 2 months ago, and th exact same words I ten typed out again a month later, and now, again, today.
Gaslighting.
Stadtaffe demanded that I explain the Titanic conspiracy theory and I immediately obliged him with two articles and a video lecture of over an hour. Before he had even had time to read one article he came back saying dismissively "I suppose they're going to say that they drove into the Iceberg on purpose" or words to that effect. Well, the theory says that there was no iceberg but you dismissed my sources in less than a minute. This was in the thread named The Conspiracy Thread.
So what's the point in making any effort here? The whole purpose Is to make me, or anyone like me, a laughing stock. and to exhaust us every time we say anything that isn't kosher..
I was annoyed when Paternos dismissed all of Christopher Bollyns work - almost instantly the moment I posted - saying that he was disqualified because he had a jewish wife and saying that nano-thermite sounded 'made-up' but I was equally dismayed seeing the pile-on on Paternos that went on - with certain people leading the way - where he was alone in the ring against his accusers it seemed.
I was surprised and disappointed at the way that he self-immolated on here, and then surprised and disappointed at the way that Bird, who I also liked, also self immolated not long after. Now it seems to be my turn.
@PurpleUrkel you say "start some other threads with conspiracy theory specificity and I'll be your Huckleberry," - Urkel, you're ALREADY IN the Conspiracy thread... why is that..? Oh never mind...
You accuse me of claiming that there is an"army of thousands of world class actors behind every psy op and false flag operation that (are) going on every second of everyday throughout the world and human history"
Because people on here used to believe that 9-11 was a jewish run false flag then we're claiming that all day, every day, there are 100s of 1000s of false flags all the time?
Again, thats a straw man. Gaslighting.
"I can't go down one giant black hole of "every conspiracy is connected by a cabal of jews who all know each other,"
Freemason boss-jews like Schiff, Israel Helphand and Parvuus were heavily involved in the Bolshevik Revolution and Genocide AND they were heavily involved in the Armenian genocide.
Why would they not be connected? Why would they not think in inter-generational terms?
Solzhenitsyn wrote a whole book about it -
"You must understand, the leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse.
It cannot be overstated. Bolshevism committed the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant and uncaring about this enormous crime is proof that the global media is still in the hands of the perpetrators.”"
But because you don't like the idea that "every conspiracy is connected by a cabal of jews who all know each other," (why would they NOT all know each other) it seems that now we are to throw Solzhenitsyn out the window as well. Wikipedia will be proud of you.
I'm glad that we're all now moving back towards the "science" of the official 9-11 story, having had our brief brush with the madness of "9-11 truth" predictive programming and conspiracy theorising.
Back towards "its just multinationals controlled by (((greed))" "Im just not comfortable with this emphasis on the jews" "It isn't the jews!"
You must be right when you say the truther version of events "can't be" what you characterise as some ludicrous "jewish false flag psy op planned and organized to such flawless perfection." Thanks for bringing me (and us) to my/our senses. Although it seems that most people agree with you here already...
When you say you want "the names" "it just seems like people have every angle except the actual identity of operatives in the field." "I want the names of the operators, the one's who planted the explosives on 911 (it must of taken at least a team of 10 professional demolition men and not one has ever spilled the beans or been gotten to by a journalist?)"
When you say I want the names I have to say I get a little bit paranoid.
Thats because I do actually know one of the operatives involved, although not very well. He's not American nor Israeli although he is Jewish. He was in America on the day and at the site of one of the attacks, involved in the operation - whilst officially he worked at the time for another NATO military payroll and he plays up that country as his ethnicity, although - if you ever talk politics with him - he starts moaning and kvetching about "white people" which would be odd if he was as (x ethnicity) as he claims to be, but not so odd when you realise that he's jewish and a former 9-11 goon.
I don't know his address, sorry, and Im not about to tail him home from the gym either. And frankly, for the benefit of any few feds reading, I value my physical health and I value any future career - so I will be discrete instead. Take that as an evasion or anything else you wish. I assure you it's true.
Its funny that you keep talking about taking a step back from posting because you are in the process of retreating from this world - and then you post away the next day and then the very next day after that you're back saying that you're all in for big debates. Funny because..
.. having been ridiculed for talking about jewish and freemason control and accused of pushing sacrilegious .. Anathema, to go with my Apophrenia, I am actually starting a church retreat today and will be away from the internet for a while.
And perhaps its best, at the end of the day, that I step away from this new forum with its new 'standards of truth,
its continuing (over weeks and months and different threads on different forums) ridicule of people who talk about jewish involvement in and, predictive programming of, 9-11 and with its new dog-piling Zeitgeist.
But I would say that for all we laugh, dear reader, at Paternos or Bird or me for saying what we believe to be true.. well, wait until its your turn. And remember that the main thing that characterises these situations is that people - people who prefer the orthodox MSM YouTube Twitter version of events and celebrity heroes - stand aside while each member who differs from the mainstream is put in the middle in their turn - or stay shtum when they entirely disappear, as with 911.
I'll step away now and for the rest of you, beware of the day when this is the Tranny, LGBTQ, Bestiality RVF 26.0 forum and you're being put in the middle across several threads and across several weeks and months for saying that jews do actually have a lot of power and ARE involved in some nefarious conspiracies.
Anyway, I have to crack on. I bid you all a bientot and I wish you all fun on here with the new spirit of not mentioning freemasonry in any detail, or that they control both sides (which seems to be the hot button issue that ignites the resistance)
For those who will ridicule me further, as happened to Bird and Paternos and as will happen to the next person who differs too far from the (freemason-controlled I said it) MSM narrative --- I say go for it...
But culchullain - you say -
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For one example, when you talk about Jewish control of certain terrorist organisations active in the UK and Ireland, you are wrong, and I know much, much more about this, than you, or possibly anyone else on this forum.
Jews do have an inordinate amount of power in areas such as media and finance. But, it is a massive jump from that to "Jews control everything, are behind everything, everything is a psyop, and they like to put references to the things they do in all the media we consume".
Some things just happen, and it doesn't matter how many pictures you link together on your cork board with bits of red strong, they aren't connected.
Saying the proof that Jews did something is because 50 years ago Jews showed something similar in a movie, is not proof of anything.
If some scientists clone some dinosaurs, they escape, and eat some white people, will you say "Jews did it, we know this because a Jew made a film where it happened decades ago - predictive programming!"?
Not everyone is Jewish, and not everything is done by, or controlled by Jews.
Here is example:
In an episode of law and order they talk about sars and coronavirus, is this predictive programming about the future (to them) COVID scamdemic? No, it's just a story around coronavirus, a virus that has been know about for decades.
When Tom Clancy wrote about a plane hitting Congress and wiping out the US government, was it predictive programming? No, he was just writing a thriller.
It is more likely that bad actors get their ideas from media, than the media is made to joke around about what the bad actors will do in the future.
Governments actually use sci-fi/thriller writers to come up ideas for their wargames and emergency planning, why wouldn't others.
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Also, you are making this personal, making it about who sides with you, and who is against you.
Acting is if the argument is won and dismissing other viewpoints then getting annoyed and angry that they still won't agree with you.
This is not masculine behaviour, it's feminine behaviour.
Not everyone is going to always agree with you, despite how much evidence you provide, nor how great you think your arguments are.
That's the nature of the world, and you have to accept that.
Trying to browbeat people into believe what you believe will actually force them away from what you believe.
Acting is if the argument is won and dismissing other viewpoints then getting annoyed and angry that they still won't agree with you.
This is not masculine behaviour, it's feminine behaviour.
Not everyone is going to always agree with you, despite how much evidence you provide, nor how great you think your arguments are.
That's the nature of the world, and you have to accept that.
Trying to browbeat people into believe what you believe will actually force them away from what you believe.
It is difficult on one's soul but, if you stop and think about it, in actuality most people are indeed living a lie in one way or another. It's why there is so much dysfunction in the world. It's just that those elites with power can create a larger ripple effect.
These world class actors and "superhuman" figures write books themselves and give talks bragging about what they are doing. This really isn't even a secret conspiracy. Much of it is a completely open conspiracy. Check out Jay Dyer's resources to get a start on this.
And they don't go off script because they believe what they are doing is good. And because they've basically framed what we believe reality to be through news, art, movies, tv, and popular culture, it's not difficult to get thousands of people to work in concert. They are of the same spirit. And the fact that most people do desire some kind prestige (they want to "climb the ladder" so to speak) means that they are easily manipulated. The way to get that prestige is to follow the rules that have been framed by the current order.
Ok, I absolutely need to read more about this
I read that and, with no ill will towards the poster, thought it was an absolutely ridiculous claim. I'm always prepared to consider the evidence, but that just seems so unfeasible. It would appear to fall into the category of 'nonsense designed to discredit critical thinking'.
The reality is a combination of pens on terraces, poor policing and trying to avert a riot created the Hillsborough Disaster.
@BarrontheTigerCat
I am not ridiculing you. Well, maybe I am now because you're being whiney and insufferable. You seem to have trouble with nuanced reading comprehension and you take everything so personally. Believe it or not, not everything is about you. You are reminding me of all the Gen Z'ers I have to interact with everyday at work. If they receive the slightest criticism, or God forbid, someone tells them "no" or disagrees with them, they completely melt down, become passive-aggressive, and take their ball and go home.
My conspiracy is this: "None of this matters." It is fun to discuss, but you are taking all the fun out of it by being melodramatic: "Either agree with everything I say right now or you're stupid and wasting my time!" It's all so childish the way you are behaving, and it makes me distrust your analysis even more.
I'm gonna tell you straight up, I don't give a crap who's pulling the strings or what the "real" truth is because I'm praying to God everyday that my life will improve regardless of what the jewish freemason's have planned for me. This idea of "we're being replaced and controlled," although most likely true, has no bearing on my life because I'm not willing to let it take over my life (nor am I willing to die to change it). They can have all the money and power, who cares? If you live a simple, quiet life in America like I do, then I am telling you, you have nothing to fear. Forget everything you know. Ignorance is bliss.
*In before the black pill "But how can you just stick your head in the sand while all these kids are being killed by jews in Palestine and the Great American Collapse is coming in 2024!?!"
I am not ridiculing you. Well, maybe I am now because you're being whiney and insufferable. You seem to have trouble with nuanced reading comprehension and you take everything so personally. Believe it or not, not everything is about you. You are reminding me of all the Gen Z'ers I have to interact with everyday at work. If they receive the slightest criticism, or God forbid, someone tells them "no" or disagrees with them, they completely melt down, become passive-aggressive, and take their ball and go home.
My conspiracy is this: "None of this matters." It is fun to discuss, but you are taking all the fun out of it by being melodramatic: "Either agree with everything I say right now or you're stupid and wasting my time!" It's all so childish the way you are behaving, and it makes me distrust your analysis even more.
I'm gonna tell you straight up, I don't give a crap who's pulling the strings or what the "real" truth is because I'm praying to God everyday that my life will improve regardless of what the jewish freemason's have planned for me. This idea of "we're being replaced and controlled," although most likely true, has no bearing on my life because I'm not willing to let it take over my life (nor am I willing to die to change it). They can have all the money and power, who cares? If you live a simple, quiet life in America like I do, then I am telling you, you have nothing to fear. Forget everything you know. Ignorance is bliss.
*In before the black pill "But how can you just stick your head in the sand while all these kids are being killed by jews in Palestine and the Great American Collapse is coming in 2024!?!"
It really makes me wonder if they will actually go for an alien invasion psyop. The movies do seem to prep us for this. I recently watched that Spiderman: Homecoming movie and was struck by how the characters were normally going about their day-to-day affairs after a huge alien invasion. I'm assuming that is what it was. I kind of hate movies and haven't watched many of those marvel movies but vaguely remember some sort of invasion premise to one of them.
There seem to be so many movies about that now. It probably would seem acceptable enough to most people at this point and they may actually be inspired to "come together" for a cause and then continue going about their business enough so it's not total pandemonium.
Caduceus
Heritage
I didn't realize that the 1970's Flash Gordon movie held so faithfully to the look of the original series. I feel like I recognized a number of the characters in this one, even watching bits of it with the sound off at work.
Yes, and even earlier with the War of the Worlds broadcast in the 30s and the supposed panic because people believed it was true. I'm not sure if that claim of panic from people actually happened but that is the accepted story and it opened up just as all the radio, tv, and news-"casting" was coming on line.They have been making alien invasion movies since the 1950s....
Caduceus
Heritage
I think the Antichrist will come under the guise of an alien. How else will he be able to maintain disbelief in God and his miraculous feats? I think this is what we're being prepared for.
Hello everyone, sorry for the derail. I just wanted to apologize to @BarrontheTigerCat for speaking ill of him. I posted a critique of his person and I have no right to do so. If I could delete the post I would.
This is just a public request that he stick around. I think he adds value to the forum and I think his posts are unique and interesting (even though i disagree with some aspects of them). I'd also ask that @BarrontheTigerCat starts specific conspiracy theory threads on 911 and The Free Masons so people like myself can get a better handle on The Big Picture by focusing the conversation on one issue at a time.
Maybe this has already been discussed, but @Cynllo is there any way we can we get a separate Conspiracy Theories category on it's own and post individual conspiracy theory threads under that category?
Thanks again to everyone making this forum happen and helping it to move forward (posters, mods, admin, etc.).
God Bless
This is just a public request that he stick around. I think he adds value to the forum and I think his posts are unique and interesting (even though i disagree with some aspects of them). I'd also ask that @BarrontheTigerCat starts specific conspiracy theory threads on 911 and The Free Masons so people like myself can get a better handle on The Big Picture by focusing the conversation on one issue at a time.
Maybe this has already been discussed, but @Cynllo is there any way we can we get a separate Conspiracy Theories category on it's own and post individual conspiracy theory threads under that category?
Thanks again to everyone making this forum happen and helping it to move forward (posters, mods, admin, etc.).
God Bless