Charlie Kirk Thread

Hermetic Seal said:
I waited a few days for the dust to settle before sharing much in the way of thoughts on this event. Lots of very heat-of-the-moment rhetoric (for understandable reasons), and I wanted some more time to think it over.

First, obviously it's a huge tragedy and I feel awful for his family which has been horribly hurt by the murder.

Second, I'm shocked by what a big deal this was in the mainstream. I had no idea Charlie Kirk was so popular; I knew he was better known than somebody like Nick Fuentes, but now it seems like everybody everywhere has been familiar with him for a while. I think I must have severely underestimated TPUSA's influence, but I've been a bit checked out of the political situation for a long time now.

Third, I'm at least a bit suspicious of the idea that Tyler Robinson was a lone crazy leftist, and like others here have suggested, it seems quite plausible that he had help. While I think it's possible that the Zionist regime had something to do with it, I'd need more compelling evidence than we have right now.

Fourth - and this is where things get a bit spicy - this event and the murder of the Ukrainian girl on the train and all the associated fallout has been the biggest PR boost for the right that I've seen in my entire life, in a single week a Left that has been already been on the backfoot for years has completely lost the moral high ground.

The Woke left has been in sharp decline for a few years now, as evidenced by Trump's huge victory last November, but this was the death blow. With these two events, the right has completely snatched the moral high ground from opponents who took it for granted and assumed they'd hold it forever. If the Left can't play the Goodperson card, then they've lost arguably their most vital rhetorical tool. This doesn't mean the Left is over, but it does mean that their wickedness has been clearly exposed to those in the middle. I think much of the nastiness of leftists reveling over Kirk's death is some kind of subconscious death throe, the realization that on some level their side just sustained a death blow.

Fifth, as much good as Charlie did alive, his impact as a martyr for conservatism is likely to be greater. In death he exposed the ugly truth about Leftism more viscerally than he ever could in his life. He died at the point where he would have maximum impact: young, attractive, with a lovely young family horrifically rent apart by a deranged leftist. No mistresses, no criminal record or shady dealings or any of the other things that tend to bring down guys in his position (especially over time.) He walked the talk. His death sends a message to people ranging from centrists to traditional conservative republicans: a message that would once be unceremoniously delivered by the Boomercon as a TL;DR wall of text has now been immortalized in a visceral and brutal shock, a rhetorical BFG 9000 delivered into the hands of the Right and primed to lay waste to the wailing demons.

What exactly this might entail is a bit hard to say. There are all sorts of ways things should go from here, and my generally wary and skeptical nature makes me hesitant to declare victory, but there's no doubt that the right has some sort of golden opportunity here, one that I didn't really expect to see in my lifetime. But I think our leaders, pundits, activists, YouTube and Twitter personalities, whatever it may be, need our prayers more than ever: this is a momentous time.
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I understand where you are coming from but I still think the long term structural trend is towards leftism for two reasons. The first being demographics. The endless waves of migrants who keep coming to America every year. When these people eventually get citizenship they tend to vote democrat because they want the welfare/benefits from the government. The second is that growing wealth inequality/wealth divide. The structure of the economy will continue along the path of the top few percent continuing to increase their share of total income and assets at the expense of everyone else not to mention with the coming advancements of robotics and AI jobs will be even harder to come by. Therefore more people will vote for leftism/democrats to get government handouts and eventually in the future possible even universal basic income.
 
Get2choppaaa said:


Here's Mrs. Kirk saying her goodbyes to Charlie.

Hard to fathom what that woman is going through right now.
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Sorry but I don’t know about you all but doing a performance act for social engagement using your cold dead husband body as a prop rings red flags of grifting to me.

When I saw this earlier I thought it was fake mockery posting by the left but that repost by Tom confirms it.
 
Australia Sucks said:
I understand where you are coming from but I still think the long term structural trend is towards leftism for two reasons. The first being demographics. The endless waves of migrants who keep coming to America every year. When these people eventually get citizenship they tend to vote democrat because they want the welfare/benefits from the government. The second is that growing wealth inequality/wealth divide. The structure of the economy will continue along the path of the top few percent continuing to increase their share of total income and assets at the expense of everyone else not to mention with the coming advancements of robotics and AI jobs will be even harder to come by. Therefore more people will vote for leftism/democrats to get government handouts and eventually in the future possible even universal basic income.
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I've long felt fairly certain that Donald Trump will be the last Republican president. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.
 
This is not a flash in the pan instance.

My kid's high-school friends have been talking about it all week. We had a multi-family gathering today, they're talking about it.

I hate to say it, but I think the horrible political assassination of Charlie Kirk snapped people back to reality. We have the righteous moral high ground now.
 
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FrancisK said:
The more I think about this the more it angers me, the man was killed and taken from his family for having rational Christian based beliefs and the courage to voice them.
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Yeah he was actually pretty moderate, at least to normal people.

Even publicly defending Israel and Jews 99% of the time did nothing to save him in the end.
 
Spicy!

Also I think this is accurate. Mentally disturbed are the first rank in Antifa. Letter agency feds are second tier. Secret billionaires are top tier.



Bonus points for Starship Troopers reference. Also, this post got an Elon Musk reaction which is alway good for a boost in reach.

Edit: Elon's reaction to this post says "This needs to be dismantled", which is basically him going up against all the other billionaires.
 
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expectation said:
Sorry but I don’t know about you all but doing a performance act for social engagement using your cold dead husband body as a prop rings red flags of grifting to me.

When I saw this earlier I thought it was fake mockery posting by the left but that repost by Tom confirms it.
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Yeah I don't see it at all that way man. I get that your implying it's a WWE skit. But ....Frankly a little less cynicism and a little more altruistic empathy is the lense to view all this.

She's trying to commemorate him, I mean the dude was quite literally assassinated publicly, and he was a very public figure.

Or are you now implying her grief isn't legitimate or real?

As far as Tom Finton .... He is hardly a grifter either.
 
Dusty said:
So they’re saying the assassin is a white heterosexual male, because his tranny lover is a woman despite having a penis.

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I'm not saying this is definitely the shooter, but there have been claims on 4chan that it is. It may be AI, but does look quite real. The fingers are not messed up.


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Stuff coming out on 4Chan suggests that quite a few people in the leftist/transgender community had foreknowledge, and that it could have been a team operation.

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George Zinn a very well known person in Utah politics, goes to every event, is often disruptive, and received many court bans from churches and government buildings. He could just be an opportunist, rather than in on it.

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