9/11 Conspiracy Thread

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

Let's focus on more provable 911 phenomenon like the Dancing Israeli's, the jews not going to work in the buildings that day, and the jew insurance scams on the buildings.

I would never start a 9/11 discussion with a normie, but if I did it would be about the Dancing Israeli's and WTC 7, and not about jet fuel combustion temps.

That said, for people with patience, curiosity and aptitude, there's some very well formatted info. about the technical aspects of how a building can fall from Richard Gage, founder of 911 Architects and Engineers for Truth.

 

[Caduceus]

A guy I once knew, his mom was on one of the planes that hit the towers and he never saw her again after that day. Seems a bit elaborate to whack a bunch of people that actually boarded airplanes just to fly some "oversized drones" into the buildings. Loose lips sink ships. The more people you add to a conspiracy (drone operators, demolition specialists, people to place explosives, people to place phone calls telling people not to go to work, people to "disappear" 100's of passengers on 9/11/01, etc.) the more likely they are to spill the beans. According to some theorists ideas about 911 it sounds like a 50+ person operation which is a lot of people to keep silent. Occam's Razor probably applies here, thus the reason nobody has come forth saying "I was involved in the planning and execution of 911" is because everyone involved is either dead or it was a very small team of elite "special" (((forces))) who are good at keeping their mouths shut and taking their secrets to the grave.

This whole idea that planes didn't bring those buildings down is a psyop to muddy the waters of JQ involvement. What do people think was going to happen to those buildings? The fire was just going to go out and the damage would have been relegated to the top floors? Or the fire was just going to burn slowly down leveling the buildings over a day or two? I don't care what people's metallurgy theories are, we all saw what we saw, two jet liners full of fuel slammed into the Twin Towers, they burned for an hour or so at the hottest temperatures known to man and then the heat was "convected" into the metal surrounding the point of impact which "softened" the metal and dropped the buildings.

Let's focus on more provable 911 phenomenon like the Dancing Israeli's, the jews not going to work in the buildings that day, and the jew insurance scams on the buildings.

Flight attendant on one of the 9/11 airplanes made a very spooky call from an in-seat pay phone from one of the planes.

 

[Iakobos]

A guy I once knew, his mom was on one of the planes that hit the towers and he never saw her again after that day. Seems a bit elaborate to whack a bunch of people that actually boarded airplanes just to fly some "oversized drones" into the buildings. Loose lips sink ships. The more people you add to a conspiracy (drone operators, demolition specialists, people to place explosives, people to place phone calls telling people not to go to work, people to "disappear" 100's of passengers on 9/11/01, etc.) the more likely they are to spill the beans. According to some theorists ideas about 911 it sounds like a 50+ person operation which is a lot of people to keep silent. Occam's Razor probably applies here, thus the reason nobody has come forth saying "I was involved in the planning and execution of 911" is because everyone involved is either dead or it was a very small team of elite "special" (((forces))) who are good at keeping their mouths shut and taking their secrets to the grave.

This whole idea that planes didn't bring those buildings down is a psyop to muddy the waters of JQ involvement. What do people think was going to happen to those buildings? The fire was just going to go out and the damage would have been relegated to the top floors? Or the fire was just going to burn slowly down leveling the buildings over a day or two? I don't care what people's metallurgy theories are, we all saw what we saw, two jet liners full of fuel slammed into the Twin Towers, they burned for an hour or so at the hottest temperatures known to man and then the heat was "convected" into the metal surrounding the point of impact which "softened" the metal and dropped the buildings.

Let's focus on more provable 911 phenomenon like the Dancing Israeli's, the jews not going to work in the buildings that day, and the jew insurance scams on the buildings.

There is amle evidence of controlled demolition which is likely the part Israeli teams were hands-on with.

 

[NSOE]

More to the point, where is the airline logo and windows on the plane ?

When the background is a lot brighter and especially while capturing a speck of an object, something that takes up maybe 1% of the frame area- the thing will appear as almost black on videos and photographs, like looking at your finger raised towards a light.

 

[NSOE]

More data from Epstein emails. Howard Lutnick in the spotlight; Neighbor of Epstein in NYC, Hosted parties together, email to Maxwell to invite to a 9/11 Shadow Commission. Huge gap in Epstein emails missing 1999 - 2001.

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Lutnik is Polish for musical instrument maker, it can sound confusing but a lute player is called lutniarz.

I checked for myself, he would have warned whom I presume was his brother, unless he's a psychopath. I looked under c and there is one cohen, other obvious ones- goldflam, lazar, lichtschein, meyer, morris, proctor, pocher, rosen-thal berg blum baum

Lutnick, Gary | Cantor Families Memorial

Gary Lutnick

Date of Birth: November 3, 1964
Position: Partner of Cantor Fitzgerald, Trader on U.S. Agency Desk

He would always walk into my house with a smile from ear to ear, and a big hello. He would always kiss me and give me a hug, and then immediately find my children, his nephews and his baby niece. He never came empty-handed.. remote-controlled cars or the newest Pokemon toys for the loves of his life.

Gary was an unbelievable uncle. He treated my children as if they were his children, until he could have his own to love. He would pop by on a Sunday to take them to Chelsea Piers or run around in the park, or call them to invite them to the newest kids movie as soon as it hit the theatres. He would come by around 8pm, just as they were going to bed, and happily read them stories before lights out. He had alot more time with the boys than he did with the baby, and I know my boys will remember him forever. Our kids call him ‘Uncle Gary with the tv games’. I have a brother Gary, too. And so they needed to differentiate between the two. Gary Lutnick had Nintendo and Sega, and the other Uncle Gary did not. Hence, ‘Uncle Gary with the tv games’ and ‘Uncle Gary without the tv games’. It worked for all of us!

I loved my brother-in-law so much. He was alot like Howard- devoted, loyal, loving, and he could always make me laugh. They had so many of the same mannerisms and facial expressions, and they were so close. Gary was always spending time with Howard to talk about business, or personal issues. He looked up to Howard, and Howard loved him like crazy- his baby brother. It breaks my heart that Gary is gone. I will talk about Gary until the day I am gone from this earth. I will tell my kids stories about him, and always show them his pictures so that they remember him and how much he loved them.

Last Saturday was Gary’s 37th birthday. I told my oldest son, who is 5 1/2, that it was Uncle Gary’s birthday and he asked if we were going to have a party for him. I told him no, but that we would think about him and tell him how much we love and miss him. He turned to me and said ‘You know, Mommy, if I were a ghost, I would have flown into the World Trade Center and put everyone in my tummy and then flown out, so I could have saved them all’. And I thought: Just like his Uncle Gary- a hero until the end.

I love you, Gary. Forever, Allison


Allison Lutnick, Sister-in-Law

 

[FrancisK]

How long after 9/11 occurred do you guys think that common people started suspecting jews of orchestrating it?

I ask because I was dating an atheist Jew broad in high school, trust me I know, whose father was involved in politics and it wasn't even a month in where she mentioned something about people blaming jews for it. I had never heard that until then and didn't hear more about that concept it until years later, as time went on I always thought back on that....

 

[Thomas More]

How long after 9/11 occurred do you guys think that common people started suspecting jews of orchestrating it?

I ask because I was dating an atheist Jew broad in high school, trust me I know, whose father was involved in politics and it wasn't even a month in where she mentioned something about people blaming jews for it. I had never heard that until then and didn't hear more about that concept it until years later, as time went on I always thought back on that....

I didn't believe this until Covid. Once I realized how far they were willing to go, I found a lot of other conspiracy theories believable.

 

[Caduceus]

When the background is a lot brighter and especially while capturing a speck of an object, something that takes up maybe 1% of the frame area- the thing will appear as almost black on videos and photographs, like looking at your finger raised towards a light.

This may well be true, but the attacks in new york were filmed from about 15 different angles (some quite close up) and in NONE of them can you see windows or an airline logo.

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

How long after 9/11 occurred do you guys think that common people started suspecting jews of orchestrating it?

I ask because I was dating an atheist Jew broad in high school, trust me I know, whose father was involved in politics and it wasn't even a month in where she mentioned something about people blaming jews for it. I had never heard that until then and didn't hear more about that concept it until years later, as time went on I always thought back on that....

There are always a variety of false narratives created at the inception of these events, such as the CIA/FBI looking dudes standing around curbside near Ground Zero and giving "spontaneous" interviews blaming Osama bin Laden within 30 seconds of the buildings falling.

Maybe the Jew blaming she heard about was one of the controlled-opposition infostreams they made in order to inoculate against actual Jew blaming they knew would come later.

If you heard about the dancing Israeli's and their admission on Israeli TV that they were Mossad agents sent there "to document the event," you'd start thinking it was them and I think that came out in late 2001.

The dancing Israeli's were known in 9/11 truth circles early on, but people like Alex Jones flooded the zone with other relevant, but less incriminating info, such as the Odigo text messages, while also complaining about others who muddied the water with too much technical info. or bizarre (by Alex Jones standards) conspiracy theories.

IIRC, 911 truth peaked with publicity about WTC7 in 2006 and a conference before the establishment had their counter-attack working, so Jew blaming could have been 2002-2006.