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It's all fake.
9/11 Conspiracy Thread
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It's all fake.
What I believe about 9/11:
4 planes were used in 9/11, with the 19 named suspects and at the 4 named points of contact.
WTC7 was downed by a controlled demolition: "pull it."
Al Qaida, under UBL, was at least the front-operating mechanism that did it.
Israel had foreknowledge, at least.
Saudi Arabia had foreknowledge, at least.
We certainly don't know the whole story.
What I suspect about 9/11:
Israel and/or KSA were party to it, as program managers of sorts for AQ.
Lucky Larry Silverstein was warned - in time to prep WTC7 under guise of asbestos abatement and double up his insurance.
WTC1&2 tower collapses were prepped to expose them to maximum damage on 9/11.
The US Gov wanted (and still wants) to help cover tracks for their KSA and Israel friends. Too many links.
I don't see any reason they can't all be true. I see reasonable suspicion, if not outright evidence, they are all true. None of these items are mutually exclusive.
For those that doubt there were 4 planes, I welcome you all to attend any such memorial event with an "it's all fake and ghey" sandwich-board. As others have stated here, you'll be poorly received. Plane manifests of all 4 were confirmed. Family members of the deceased have confirmed their whereabouts on that day and their absence since.
All that said, there's still plenty of room for doubt on the official story.
4 planes were used in 9/11, with the 19 named suspects and at the 4 named points of contact.
WTC7 was downed by a controlled demolition: "pull it."
Al Qaida, under UBL, was at least the front-operating mechanism that did it.
Israel had foreknowledge, at least.
Saudi Arabia had foreknowledge, at least.
We certainly don't know the whole story.
What I suspect about 9/11:
Israel and/or KSA were party to it, as program managers of sorts for AQ.
Lucky Larry Silverstein was warned - in time to prep WTC7 under guise of asbestos abatement and double up his insurance.
WTC1&2 tower collapses were prepped to expose them to maximum damage on 9/11.
The US Gov wanted (and still wants) to help cover tracks for their KSA and Israel friends. Too many links.
I don't see any reason they can't all be true. I see reasonable suspicion, if not outright evidence, they are all true. None of these items are mutually exclusive.
For those that doubt there were 4 planes, I welcome you all to attend any such memorial event with an "it's all fake and ghey" sandwich-board. As others have stated here, you'll be poorly received. Plane manifests of all 4 were confirmed. Family members of the deceased have confirmed their whereabouts on that day and their absence since.
All that said, there's still plenty of room for doubt on the official story.
Im no expert on the topic, but seems like it was an internal attack not an external one from a foreign country,
yes it seems like explosives were used from inside the building but also seems like actual planes were used too so both can be true at the same time,
there seems to be many eye witnesses to seeing the actual planes but at the same time other buildings also fell without any planes so it was obviously a plan they did in advance, having actual planes fly into the buildings was a major distraction to stear people away from investigating internal explosions from within the building. Who exactly organized those bombs I dont know?
I did hear Alex Jones report it when he was younger and he showed a bunch of Israelies about 50 being arrested for connections with 9/11 so they must have been involved somehow even if indirectly, so much for being Americas greatest ally. There were also Jews dancing when they saw this happen which shows they are an enemy to America.
It was also interesting to see certain Islamic countries celebrating this event which should be a warming to Americans that they are also your enemies.
yes it seems like explosives were used from inside the building but also seems like actual planes were used too so both can be true at the same time,
there seems to be many eye witnesses to seeing the actual planes but at the same time other buildings also fell without any planes so it was obviously a plan they did in advance, having actual planes fly into the buildings was a major distraction to stear people away from investigating internal explosions from within the building. Who exactly organized those bombs I dont know?
I did hear Alex Jones report it when he was younger and he showed a bunch of Israelies about 50 being arrested for connections with 9/11 so they must have been involved somehow even if indirectly, so much for being Americas greatest ally. There were also Jews dancing when they saw this happen which shows they are an enemy to America.
It was also interesting to see certain Islamic countries celebrating this event which should be a warming to Americans that they are also your enemies.
The Islamic countries celebrations were largely a psyop, they had a couple of footages of small celebrations that media neocons like Howard Stern played ad nauseum in order to stir up and direct anger at muslims.
The Jews dancing were actual Israeli spies, who later claimed that they were there "to document the event".
One of the main planners of the event:
Captain Dan Hanley
@danhanley4
"Who is Dov Zakheim?
Dov Zakheim is a neocon Zionist dual US/Israeli citizen who served in the US government in various capacities since the Reagan era in 1981. He was George W. Bush’s foreign policy advisor coming into the 2000 election.
From 1987–2001, Zakheim was CEO of SPC International, a subsidiary of System Planning Corporation, a high-technology analytical firm that also produced the Flight Termination System, which enables the remote control of airborne flight vehicles.
Zakheim was also a member of the Project for a New American Century (PNAC), a DC-based neocon Zionist think tank where he helped to author exactly one year prior to 9/11 a paper entitled, “Rebuilding America’s Defenses” calling for the need of a “new Pearl Harbor” to garner public support for increased defense spending in refurbishing the military for future conflicts.
One year later on September 11, 2001, PNAC got its new Pearl Harbor.
In April 2001, just four months prior to 9/11, Zakheim was appointed as comptroller of the Pentagon by Bush. The day before 9/11, then Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld announced that $2.3-trillion was missing from the Pentagon budget. A team of budget analysts had been researching this for some time in the Office of Budget Analysis that was housed in the Office of Naval Intelligence spaces. Zakheim oversaw this office.On September 11th, American Airlines flight 77 struck this office killing over 30 analysts of the 50 working there. Hmm…coincidence? We don’t think so.
Zakheim retired in 2010 as a senior vice president of Booz Allen Hamilton, a front company for the ClA.
You be the judge.Kindly repost...thank you"
This is an excellent thread, from Vincent James:
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Didnt know about the pentagon guys who were bombed while doing an investigation. Regarding the dancing Muslims small groups or not they were also dancing and yes Im sure they showed those videos to the public for other reasons but they were still dancing and thats a warning sign to me that you guys cant be too trusting towards them either.
With regards to the planes, I read somewhere that a group of pilots had multiple efforts in the flight sim with experienced pilots that it was more or less impossible for them to hit the twin towers with a passenger airplane travelling at the speeds that it was supposed to be flying it.
This then leads to the conclusion that the Arabs with box cutters were some of the most skillful pilots ever OR that the planes were piloted remotely and taken over at distance OR that they weren't hijacked passenger planes at all, just painted to look like it OR that they didn't exist and were early CGI.
With regards to the pentagon, I think it's widely accepted that no plane hit the pentagon, that was another nearly impossible flight path by box cutter Arabs and was almost certainly a missile. What happened to the plane and those on it is unknown.
The narrative of the flight (93?) that was taken over by passagers and then crashed, may or may not have happened by is certainly a flag waving American convenient narrative to distract from the obvious controlled demolition.
At the crash sites of 93 (?) and the pentagon as well as the twin towers there was absolutely no sign of the usual wreckage that you get from regular plane crashes. The twin towers, maybe you could understand but in the others we are supposed to accept that hundreds of tonnes of plane metal and parts simply vaporised.
This then leads to the conclusion that the Arabs with box cutters were some of the most skillful pilots ever OR that the planes were piloted remotely and taken over at distance OR that they weren't hijacked passenger planes at all, just painted to look like it OR that they didn't exist and were early CGI.
With regards to the pentagon, I think it's widely accepted that no plane hit the pentagon, that was another nearly impossible flight path by box cutter Arabs and was almost certainly a missile. What happened to the plane and those on it is unknown.
The narrative of the flight (93?) that was taken over by passagers and then crashed, may or may not have happened by is certainly a flag waving American convenient narrative to distract from the obvious controlled demolition.
At the crash sites of 93 (?) and the pentagon as well as the twin towers there was absolutely no sign of the usual wreckage that you get from regular plane crashes. The twin towers, maybe you could understand but in the others we are supposed to accept that hundreds of tonnes of plane metal and parts simply vaporised.
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Caduceus
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An alternative theory is that all 4 planes were hijacked, but were later crashed deliberately into the Atlantic ocean to kill all on board.
Both towers in NYC and the building in Washington were ALL hit by drones.
In fact in you look closely at all the video footage of the planes you cannot see a single airplane LOGO, or even an airplane WINDOW in any of them.
Both towers in NYC and the building in Washington were ALL hit by drones.
In fact in you look closely at all the video footage of the planes you cannot see a single airplane LOGO, or even an airplane WINDOW in any of them.
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Heritage
I got a lot to slog through on this thread but here’s my issue. You guys remember the 00s? It was very jingoistic and in your face. Almost genuinely fascistic, not like “trumps a fascist” but there was something disturbing about the Bush years. Now pride flags everywhere! Was there a change in course? How do we account for the 00s vs 20s attitude changes if this 9/11 business is real? How do we go from “project for a new American century” to BLM?
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It's true.
The contrast is very stark.
The big change from the pro USA anti Muslim Bush years, over to faggot and tranny mass propaganda happened in the Obama years 2008 to 2016.
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Almost all of the traditional "superhero" comic characters were invented by jews. I've wondered about this and feel it might be a manifestation of their desire for someone to "save" them from evil, as they reject Christ and don't want anything to do with Him.
"Secret Identities: The jewish Origins of your favorite superheroes part 1 - Superman"
It's a whole series that goes into each one's creation.
What I've known for years now is that they serve two-fold purposes, the first being to lead unknowing humans away from Christ who saved their souls, and the second being to lead them away from historical heroes who saved their posterity and essentially the children of modernity reading this stuff. The only comics I ever thought were interesting were Conan The Barbarian. The worship for these fake characters is very propped up in place of where worship deserves to go.
But yes, even jewish superheroes couldn't stop 9/11. If the explosives didn't work, they'd do something else to rattle the cage.
What’s messed up is it’s the same people. When I was a kid I had this guy on the street that would talk about “blowing up an Iraqi” for fireworks on 4th of July. Yikes. This same dude, SAME EXACT GUY, had an “IN THIS HOUSE WE BELIEVE” yard sign in 2020. That’s only 15 years! I could also tell you a story about a girlfriend who was very libertarian and dunked on leftists all the time when we were kids, now she is your typical lefty school narm. People believe what they’re told to believe and simply don’t think why they believe it. I concluded either 1. Somehow a new element highjacked our society during the Obama years which invalidates a lot of stuff discussed on here. Or 2. The ruling class deliberately changed course because “reasons” which means they are the most disgusting villains in history. At least everyone else had an agenda. The mustache men had an ideology they were chasing. If 2. is correct this means they have no ideology or agenda, just winning which makes them very scary.
Some updates on this. Here’s my hot take on what happened. Resources are scarcer as of 2024 than 2001. This includes jobs, housing, healthy food etc. the motivating drive is gross. I am right, it’s the same people, but there’s a shift in the upper and upper middle class to shift to valuing equity over equality. That guy with the yard sign never changed. It’s just with his new outlook the most successful will get overlooked in favor of the ghetto types who are more “victims” and need empowered, but even if empowered they will never compete with him for his job. In an actual meritocracy someone more competent than him could rise. Equity is just a tool for upper class and the upper middle managerial class to hold onto power. Instead of letting people rise based on ability give the lower tier jobs to Lashante who can’t compete with Brad or Becky ensuring their nepobabies will get their job. But Tom, Tom’s a threat. Ewww, straight white man. Convenient… The left wing position is entirely self serving. We need to start calling them out on it.
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So many jews were forewarned ahead of time not to go to work that day. Not just tower employees.
I could buy either way the no planes or planes theories. If planes, I remember seeing a video once where experienced pilots in a simulator were asked to try and hit the towers travelling at the speed and altitude that they were apparently going. None of them could do it.
But apparently the alleged terrorists with their cessna training got it right first time 2 times out of 2 with a highly sophisticated modern jet airliner.
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If you look at EVERY single video from EVERY possible angle of the 2 "planes" hitting the twin towers in NYC, in NONE of them can you see an an actual airplane logo, or even normal airplane passenger windows. I suspect these 2 "planes" were actually drones filled with explosives.
At the pentagon, and that field in Pennsylvania, there is ZERO wreckage of a normal passenger airplane....no airplane seats, no luggage, no engines, no fuselage, no wings, no tail, no bodies....NOTHING ! There is however very clear traces of a small drone or missile impact at both these sites.
Obviously 4 planes with lots of passengers DID vanish that day.....but that doesn't mean those 4 missing planes hit those 4 exact targets they tell us. They could have simply shot down all 4 passenger planes over a remote part of the ocean and no one would ever know the difference.
Remember they never found the flight recorders (black box) for 3 or the 4 planes. Airplane black boxes are in reality is a pretty indestructible piece of equipment designed to withstand huge amount of destruction, explosions, fire, and underwater pressure. This was one of the only times in history they were not recovered for 3 of the 4 planes.
The idea that there were no passenger airplanes on 9/11 is nothing new....people have examined this idea from the very start of the alternate theories which began over 20 years ago.
At the pentagon, and that field in Pennsylvania, there is ZERO wreckage of a normal passenger airplane....no airplane seats, no luggage, no engines, no fuselage, no wings, no tail, no bodies....NOTHING ! There is however very clear traces of a small drone or missile impact at both these sites.
Obviously 4 planes with lots of passengers DID vanish that day.....but that doesn't mean those 4 missing planes hit those 4 exact targets they tell us. They could have simply shot down all 4 passenger planes over a remote part of the ocean and no one would ever know the difference.
Remember they never found the flight recorders (black box) for 3 or the 4 planes. Airplane black boxes are in reality is a pretty indestructible piece of equipment designed to withstand huge amount of destruction, explosions, fire, and underwater pressure. This was one of the only times in history they were not recovered for 3 of the 4 planes.
The idea that there were no passenger airplanes on 9/11 is nothing new....people have examined this idea from the very start of the alternate theories which began over 20 years ago.
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@SkiPro _ I think the answer lies in the layers of deception.
The first layer is the official "Osama and the evil Arabs did it"
The second one is the version of events that people like David Icke rushed out suspiciously quickly "Greedy George Bush and his cronies Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney and Colin Powell were behind it because they were Greedy and wanted wars in order to make money"
You can actually find a Lauren Guyenot video on YouTube where he takes that thinking apart and demonstrates that it is likely that the American parties to that outrage were actually kept in the dark as to what was about to happen.
So then we have the 3rd Layer and get to what many would term "The Real Story" which is that World Jewry planned this over a long time..
Whats interesting is that the Feds didn't seem too happy with people moving from the 'safe' conspiracy theory to the more 'antisemitic' third layer
This was something that 911 alerted us to - that Obama's information Czar Cass Sunstein - wanted to use what he called "Cognitive Infiltration" to poison the well.
If you have one resplendent tree of truth in a field, Sunstein wants it surrounded by thousands of trees telling lies; Flat Earth, Dinosaurs are Fake, You name it -
So Sunstein oversaw the flooding of the web with weird sounding conspiracy theories - if he could get people to believe nonsense theories as well then he would be able to discredit them.
HENCE the 4th layer - People like Judy Wood and September Clues, which I believe to be Fed Ops.
Judy Wood is a strange looking woman, strange in her manner and habits, and I don't believe her laser beam-energy weapon theories.
They may be true but I think they're nonsense.
September Clues was something that Paternos tried to get me into - it states that there were no planes, but not only that there were no casualties, the entire area was roped off the night before and the whole affair was Television, smoke and mirrors and special effects.
Now, there ARE plenty of faked videos of 9-11 going around the net - there is the famous "Pinnochios Nose" footage from a News Helicopter - of a plane appearing out of nothing in mid air and then its soft nose cone going all the way through a tower and emerging the other side. That footage certainly looks faked.
One of the best authorities on 9-11 is Christopher Bollyn and he has had to face these questions many times.
His response is that "yes there ARE lots of faked videos going around the Net BUT that doesn't mean there were no planes"
Bollyn follows videos like "9-11 In Plane Sight" which says that the 'planes' had no passenger windows and were remote controlled drones laden with explosives including Uranium 235.
So... no genius Goat-Herding Pilots.
So in that sense I would agree with @Cooper that there were two planes/drones that hit the towers and one missile that hit the pentagon and one further missile that hit a dent in the ground (that was already there) in Shanksville.
@KulturedKaveman - I think one answer to the change in the Zeitgeist is the level of social engineering jews go in for.
They tend to fulfil more than one objective with these operations.
Oklahoma City was
1. an attempt to discredit and crack down on the Christian Militia Movement in the wake of Ruby Ridge and Waco.
2. a way to get through their (already drafted) Surviellance/"Patriot Act" legislation through Congress.
3. A way to get rid of all the evidence against the Clintons vis a vis Whitewater Scandal by moving the evidence to the Murrah Building.
4. A practice run for 9-11.
If you look at 9-11 you can see Multiple Objectives being hit.
1. FINALLY getting the Patriot Act through Congress.
2. Creating Homeland Security and so yet another Agency surveilling Americans, the Control Grid tightens.
3. Destroying the Enron evidence held in the WTC.
4. Theft of Gold held in WTC6.
5. Destroying the evidence of Dov Zakheims theft of Trillions in the Pentagon accounting office.
6. Getting the US and NATO to join in the Global War on Terror - which was really the Israeli Oded Yinon Plan (PNAC, Clean Break Memo), invading Afghanistan on Irans Eastern Flank, Invading a relatively unified and strong Iraq on Israels own Eastern Flank., setting up future operations like the destabilisation of Syria and invasion of Libya -
7. Not just that but justifying crack-downs on Muslim groups everywhere in the world ie: Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan, France, Italy, UK, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Thailand etc. Jews love creating "enemies" be they "Kulaks" "Armenians" "Incels" "Nazis" "Muslims" "Iran" etc.
8. The Kalergi Plan replacement immigration project had not gone full throttle back in 2001, most Brits would only notice the level of immigration into the UK around 2002 - mentioned in media all the time from then on.
In the US the Kalergi Plan really ramped up under Obama 2008 onwards.
What 9-11 and the GWOT gave the jews was a way to guilt trip the West into feeling bad and not objecting to massive 3rd world migration.
The Iraq Invasion was Evil in my view. Friends of mine died and at the same time it became harder and harder to defend what we were doing there ... not least when SAS troopers were caught trying to stage a false flag terror bombing in Basra.
Gradually the West began to feel bad about themselves and their militaries. The US had experienced that with Vietnam but for many NATO partners it was their first time... and then the Jewish media started guilt tripping citizens at the suffering of Muslims all over the Muslim world.
When Obama got in I felt like people couldn't get behind the GWOT anymore - they felt and about the whole thing.
If you look at the research from 2008 (Occupy Wall Street) the jews forgot about dangerous Muzzies and were ramping up "Toxic Whiteness" "Toxic Masculinity" "the Patriarchy" and thus intensifying the Guilt Trip they were laying on Whites.
When they ramped up the Kalergi Plan across the white world - whites were already feeling guilty about bogus "WMD" 500 000 or more dead Iraqis, and dead Afghan children - so they acquiesced when every Muslim from anywhere poured over their borders saying that they were all"collaborators" and "interpreters" with NATO/ISAF forces and/or fleeing Jihadi persecution.
All the time the Woke pay-op was gaining momentum.
Thats how I would explain the Cultural Change, at least in part.
@MusicForThePiano Jews are very concerned with cutting away a people from their roots.
And Mythology is a big part of people's roots.
The Greeks believed that their heroes were half human, and half Divine, being related to the Gods, who follow their adventures and aid them. There is a lot of depth to Greek Roman or Viking mythology.
The jews cut us off from all this and replace it with a bunch of camp. kitschy guys with "superpowers" (magic but not divine) who wear underpants outside their tights.
Bit of a setback for Whites with a previously deep and mysterious culture filled with ancient and complex culture-heroes.
The first layer is the official "Osama and the evil Arabs did it"
The second one is the version of events that people like David Icke rushed out suspiciously quickly "Greedy George Bush and his cronies Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney and Colin Powell were behind it because they were Greedy and wanted wars in order to make money"
You can actually find a Lauren Guyenot video on YouTube where he takes that thinking apart and demonstrates that it is likely that the American parties to that outrage were actually kept in the dark as to what was about to happen.
So then we have the 3rd Layer and get to what many would term "The Real Story" which is that World Jewry planned this over a long time..
Whats interesting is that the Feds didn't seem too happy with people moving from the 'safe' conspiracy theory to the more 'antisemitic' third layer
This was something that 911 alerted us to - that Obama's information Czar Cass Sunstein - wanted to use what he called "Cognitive Infiltration" to poison the well.
If you have one resplendent tree of truth in a field, Sunstein wants it surrounded by thousands of trees telling lies; Flat Earth, Dinosaurs are Fake, You name it -
So Sunstein oversaw the flooding of the web with weird sounding conspiracy theories - if he could get people to believe nonsense theories as well then he would be able to discredit them.
HENCE the 4th layer - People like Judy Wood and September Clues, which I believe to be Fed Ops.
Judy Wood is a strange looking woman, strange in her manner and habits, and I don't believe her laser beam-energy weapon theories.
They may be true but I think they're nonsense.
September Clues was something that Paternos tried to get me into - it states that there were no planes, but not only that there were no casualties, the entire area was roped off the night before and the whole affair was Television, smoke and mirrors and special effects.
Now, there ARE plenty of faked videos of 9-11 going around the net - there is the famous "Pinnochios Nose" footage from a News Helicopter - of a plane appearing out of nothing in mid air and then its soft nose cone going all the way through a tower and emerging the other side. That footage certainly looks faked.
One of the best authorities on 9-11 is Christopher Bollyn and he has had to face these questions many times.
His response is that "yes there ARE lots of faked videos going around the Net BUT that doesn't mean there were no planes"
Bollyn follows videos like "9-11 In Plane Sight" which says that the 'planes' had no passenger windows and were remote controlled drones laden with explosives including Uranium 235.
So... no genius Goat-Herding Pilots.
So in that sense I would agree with @Cooper that there were two planes/drones that hit the towers and one missile that hit the pentagon and one further missile that hit a dent in the ground (that was already there) in Shanksville.
@KulturedKaveman - I think one answer to the change in the Zeitgeist is the level of social engineering jews go in for.
They tend to fulfil more than one objective with these operations.
Oklahoma City was
1. an attempt to discredit and crack down on the Christian Militia Movement in the wake of Ruby Ridge and Waco.
2. a way to get through their (already drafted) Surviellance/"Patriot Act" legislation through Congress.
3. A way to get rid of all the evidence against the Clintons vis a vis Whitewater Scandal by moving the evidence to the Murrah Building.
4. A practice run for 9-11.
If you look at 9-11 you can see Multiple Objectives being hit.
1. FINALLY getting the Patriot Act through Congress.
2. Creating Homeland Security and so yet another Agency surveilling Americans, the Control Grid tightens.
3. Destroying the Enron evidence held in the WTC.
4. Theft of Gold held in WTC6.
5. Destroying the evidence of Dov Zakheims theft of Trillions in the Pentagon accounting office.
6. Getting the US and NATO to join in the Global War on Terror - which was really the Israeli Oded Yinon Plan (PNAC, Clean Break Memo), invading Afghanistan on Irans Eastern Flank, Invading a relatively unified and strong Iraq on Israels own Eastern Flank., setting up future operations like the destabilisation of Syria and invasion of Libya -
7. Not just that but justifying crack-downs on Muslim groups everywhere in the world ie: Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan, France, Italy, UK, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Thailand etc. Jews love creating "enemies" be they "Kulaks" "Armenians" "Incels" "Nazis" "Muslims" "Iran" etc.
8. The Kalergi Plan replacement immigration project had not gone full throttle back in 2001, most Brits would only notice the level of immigration into the UK around 2002 - mentioned in media all the time from then on.
In the US the Kalergi Plan really ramped up under Obama 2008 onwards.
What 9-11 and the GWOT gave the jews was a way to guilt trip the West into feeling bad and not objecting to massive 3rd world migration.
The Iraq Invasion was Evil in my view. Friends of mine died and at the same time it became harder and harder to defend what we were doing there ... not least when SAS troopers were caught trying to stage a false flag terror bombing in Basra.
Gradually the West began to feel bad about themselves and their militaries. The US had experienced that with Vietnam but for many NATO partners it was their first time... and then the Jewish media started guilt tripping citizens at the suffering of Muslims all over the Muslim world.
When Obama got in I felt like people couldn't get behind the GWOT anymore - they felt and about the whole thing.
If you look at the research from 2008 (Occupy Wall Street) the jews forgot about dangerous Muzzies and were ramping up "Toxic Whiteness" "Toxic Masculinity" "the Patriarchy" and thus intensifying the Guilt Trip they were laying on Whites.
When they ramped up the Kalergi Plan across the white world - whites were already feeling guilty about bogus "WMD" 500 000 or more dead Iraqis, and dead Afghan children - so they acquiesced when every Muslim from anywhere poured over their borders saying that they were all"collaborators" and "interpreters" with NATO/ISAF forces and/or fleeing Jihadi persecution.
All the time the Woke pay-op was gaining momentum.
Thats how I would explain the Cultural Change, at least in part.
@MusicForThePiano Jews are very concerned with cutting away a people from their roots.
And Mythology is a big part of people's roots.
The Greeks believed that their heroes were half human, and half Divine, being related to the Gods, who follow their adventures and aid them. There is a lot of depth to Greek Roman or Viking mythology.
The jews cut us off from all this and replace it with a bunch of camp. kitschy guys with "superpowers" (magic but not divine) who wear underpants outside their tights.
Bit of a setback for Whites with a previously deep and mysterious culture filled with ancient and complex culture-heroes.