Shaquilleoatmeal
Protestant
Some updates & changes to the site
- Thread starter Servant of Christ
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Start with this thread please:
Moved.
When that ever happens here (it won't), please ping me and I will take care of it immediately. For now, I humbly ask that you please do your best to not be a source of drama (as you accuse others of doing) and instead try to focus on Christ.
Would you further consider the Coffee House move?
Under the Ladies forum https://christisking.cc/#ladies-forum.9 there is Ladies General
https://christisking.cc/forums/ladies-general.10/ and Coffee House https://christisking.cc/forums/coffee-house.72/.
Since women can now post in general sections elsewhere, and there are multiple threads in the Coffee House that have been started and maintained through men's involvement (e.g.
https://christisking.cc/threads/peak-fertility-for-women-and-men.788/) I would suggest the following:
1. Leave Ladies General as the ladies-only forum. Although CIK will likely always have a small number of ladies here, I think maintaining one ladies-only forum makes sense.
2. Move Coffee House to a general node where both men and women can participate. I can't see back end access, although Living https://christisking.cc/#living.4 or Other Topics
https://christisking.cc/#other-topics.34 appear suitable. This will enable prior discussions to continue without having to ask @Samseau to manually move individual threads.
I mostly browse via the What's New tab https://christisking.cc/whats-new/. Still, if easily implemented, brief signposting on the nodes/forums may be useful: "Men only", "Mixed" or Ladies only". This could help members in deciding where to post when browsing via the Forums view.
Since we're here
... another requested site update would be to revert to the prior option in thread navigation, where you can sort threads by both chronological pages and number of reactions per post. This was available in a prior CIK update. Can we get this back?Ideally this would apply
(a) in individual threads
(b) on poster profiles under 'postings'
Adding the reactions option makes it easier to locate gems or talking points within popular threads (e.g. meme threads) or within veteran posters' extensive history.
Related xenforo discussion:
Using Reactions data in a thread for discovery (sorting, etc.)
Let's use the data of reactions for discovery. Perhaps a sort? But within a thread, for finding funniest post, most helpful answer, etc. XF has no Q&A, or Best Answer functionality. But we can customize the reactions to ones that suit our communities, like Helpful. Let's take Helpful as the...
xenforo.com
Thanks for your consideration
A dedicated Mens only forum has been created, similar to the structure of the Ladies forum. The existing Mens lifestyle section has been moved there. And Coffee house has been moved to Other.
I am not familiar with the navigation changes being discussed but I will come back to this later and see what I can do.
I am not familiar with the navigation changes being discussed but I will come back to this later and see what I can do.
You know, it’s highly possible some of the troll accounts both on the other forum and here are just women pretending to be men.
It’s weird as hell that there’s women here at all, I certainly wouldn’t join a women’s only forum to chime in even if they had a men’s section.
Also I thought that giving permission for all women to post anywhere wasn’t a decision but a mistake that they cannot correct?
I remember on the old forum around the time when women were allowed and when there was the turn to Orthodoxy there was actually a pretty blatant fake troll women account. The account had a stereotypical looking "trad" white women avatar and also so the Orthodox religion tag. "She" would make status updates about how she was lonely and how she wished she could meet an traditional Orthodox man and some of the users actually fell for it and would post thirsty comments on her statuses. I would have thought that people who were online enough to be posting on a niche forum like that one would know better but guess the thirst just overwhelmed their rational faculty.
It's highly possible you are a woman, based on your attempt to stir up drama.
It's not weird at all. Some of them were here because they appreciate traditional values and Orthodox Christianity and they wanted to learn more about it. Also, some of us men have wives. I met my wife here (on RVF).
This site has a lot of RVF heritage, which is wonderful, but it isn't RVF anymore. Now that the focus has shifted to Christ, it's only natural that there would be a few women. I definitely don't suggest they try to argue with men or discuss war & politics and I am strongly against any kind of sexual or attention seeking behavior, but yes there is a place for them, just like in the Church.
I don't understand your third point. However, I have explained this is an experiment, for now. If it becomes a problem it will be dealt with. So far the only drama hasn't been from the women, but rather people like yourself.
Anyway, for what it's worth I do get where you are coming from, because in the vast majority of non-Orthodox spaces it does cause problems. I don't expect that to be a problem here, and any troublemakers will be dealt with, men or women.
You should attend an Orthodox Divine Liturgy service some time. Speak to the priest after and stay for coffee hour. You'll get to learn about the Church and meet some really nice people and get to see how women can be present without being disruptive.
Take care & God bless.
In Christ,
SoC
Oh I honestly thought you said it wasn’t something planned
No, it was a decision taken deliberately. It just seemed like a good time since I was doing a bunch of work on the site anyway. It's very complicated and tedious to setup the various groups and permissions.
If it turns out to be a mistake (I'm certainly capable of making those) we can re-evaluate and make the necessary changes. Nothing has been lost or is irreversible at this point.
I sincerely appreciate your feedback and you are always welcome to share your opinions even if we disagree. I only ask that folks please try to be humble and kind and as constructive as possible when expressing disagreement.
Take care & God bless.
In Christ,
SoC
On the Roosh V Forum, at some point Roosh created a Ladies only section. I don't remember why, but I'm guessing it was because he wrote a book directed to women, called "Lady: How To Meet And Keep A Good Man For Love And Marriage," he realized a certain number of women were interested in his ideas, and he was making a small space for them.
At some point I became a lurker, because I agreed with Roosh's basic idea that men and women had been degraded by culture and we could do better than that.
Not long after the plandemic began, I joined the old Roosh V site - because it was one of the ONLY places on the internet where you could talk about what was really going on without being censored. As I recall, my first posts there were questions about the vaccine and the media propaganda blitz that was happening. I appreciated that most of the posters were men striving to be better men, moving from blue pill to red pill and then white pill thinking. The women were also more feminine, traditional, Godly, and clear-minded in their thinking.
From my point of view, it's a compliment to the men that the women are here. It means we get you and we like you. Good women tend to follow good men.
Yeah my first thought is that it’s a really bad idea as we’ve seen on the old forum. But second thought is that there’s not much activity so if you hadn’t said anything, no ones going to notice
Actually there was one female user on the old forums : miss chocolate. A sassy overweight black chick. It wasn’t really a big deal.
Actually there was one female user on the old forums : miss chocolate. A sassy overweight black chick. It wasn’t really a big deal.
His sister died from cancer, which softened his views on women tremendously. Then he found God, wrote Lady, and opened up the forum to women.
Death is and always will be the #1 catalyst that turns men to God.
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Upload file size has dropped.
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For me the copy and paste file size has dropped, but if I save that image file and then attach it, there is no problem.
The upload size limit went down from 8MB to something like 0,55MB - that's the problem.
Could be, but I uploaded a 1.5 MB vid clip a few hours ago.
Maybe it's a different setting for videos?
Don't know, but I couldn't upload a 1,3MB gif earlier and started to check where the limit is, and a 499KB gif is fine, but a 555KB is a no go.
Think that during the last update some settings could have gone back to default...
Were there any recent updates on the religion shown on our posts? I definitely never would have set mine to Agnostic, and I can't seem to locate where to change that?
Also @Servant of Christ, I don't think any of the old timers here are trying to 'create drama' in any way, we're just pretty cautious when it comes to the changes you've made and with good reason. The fact that we're still here means we could be open to seeing how it goes first, but I don't think any genuine caution around that issue is rooted in a desire to cause drama in any way whatsoever. It's actually the avoidance of drama driving the comments in the first place.
Certainly you must realize that meeting your wife on RvF places you in a kind of 0.00000001% of those with such an experience and one that would undoubtedly cast a certain light on the concept of the allowance of female members that you will likely not be able to fully convey to anyone else here.
Also, let us not forget that the original RvF existed as a men's only forum for longer than not, and since this is a direct off-shoot of that forum, these kind of changes are obviously going to be a topic of discussion and not a mere footnote. RvF was essentially the Men's Retreat that we didn't, at the time, know we needed.
I really don't think accusing anyone who expresses hesitation or caution to having a co-ed forum as 'creating drama' or insinuating that they don't know what a Christian woman looks like is a healthy approach given your highly unusual experience mentioned above. I also don't think it's productive to say things along the lines of "the only drama has been from you, none of the women seem concerned." If we can't sit down and look at a sensitive issue from all angles without foul words or condescension, then I'm not really sure how this community will stand the test of time.
Many of us, while non-Orthodox, have grown up in very traditional congregations where many of the women are in long dresses and are submissive servants of God. We also have wives, mothers, daughters, nieces who are fulfilling such roles, and we're well familiar with Christian women who aren't disruptive.
We've got to acknowledge where we've come from and what needs there are in the community. I think the Men's Retreat concept (men's only spaces and fellowship) is still a great need - actually the one of the largest needs among churched and unchurched alike men in my opinion. I can tell you from work in the real world that there is a cohort of men who will simply not attend or participate if they know that female judgement (whether spoken or not) lies in wait. Will the men's-only threads still serve that role adequately on a site that's otherwise co-ed? I guess we'll see but in the meantime we can all treat each other's legitimate concerns with respect and dignity.
Also @Servant of Christ, I don't think any of the old timers here are trying to 'create drama' in any way, we're just pretty cautious when it comes to the changes you've made and with good reason. The fact that we're still here means we could be open to seeing how it goes first, but I don't think any genuine caution around that issue is rooted in a desire to cause drama in any way whatsoever. It's actually the avoidance of drama driving the comments in the first place.
Certainly you must realize that meeting your wife on RvF places you in a kind of 0.00000001% of those with such an experience and one that would undoubtedly cast a certain light on the concept of the allowance of female members that you will likely not be able to fully convey to anyone else here.
Also, let us not forget that the original RvF existed as a men's only forum for longer than not, and since this is a direct off-shoot of that forum, these kind of changes are obviously going to be a topic of discussion and not a mere footnote. RvF was essentially the Men's Retreat that we didn't, at the time, know we needed.
I really don't think accusing anyone who expresses hesitation or caution to having a co-ed forum as 'creating drama' or insinuating that they don't know what a Christian woman looks like is a healthy approach given your highly unusual experience mentioned above. I also don't think it's productive to say things along the lines of "the only drama has been from you, none of the women seem concerned." If we can't sit down and look at a sensitive issue from all angles without foul words or condescension, then I'm not really sure how this community will stand the test of time.
Many of us, while non-Orthodox, have grown up in very traditional congregations where many of the women are in long dresses and are submissive servants of God. We also have wives, mothers, daughters, nieces who are fulfilling such roles, and we're well familiar with Christian women who aren't disruptive.
We've got to acknowledge where we've come from and what needs there are in the community. I think the Men's Retreat concept (men's only spaces and fellowship) is still a great need - actually the one of the largest needs among churched and unchurched alike men in my opinion. I can tell you from work in the real world that there is a cohort of men who will simply not attend or participate if they know that female judgement (whether spoken or not) lies in wait. Will the men's-only threads still serve that role adequately on a site that's otherwise co-ed? I guess we'll see but in the meantime we can all treat each other's legitimate concerns with respect and dignity.
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