Daily Interactions With Women

I'm 34 and started going to a Christian group for young adults (18-30). I would say most of them are early to mid 20s. I thought it would be weird at first, but the lady that runs it kept trying to get me to go. I think she's trying to help me find a girl. Her husband is a really good guy too and everyone that I've met is really nice. The world feels normal around people like this.

The girls absolutely talk by the way, because I've started running into more of them. There's one in particular I'm really interested in, but she's pretty uptight and awkard around men (probably a good thing). Maybe playing hard to get is working...

So I would focus on Christian activities. Or just move abroad :ROFLMAO:
 
...The only real answer is to go through a high-volume of women until you get a decent girl.

Every situation is different but I wouldn't rule out a woman who otherwise fits the bill if she has some feminist or liberal or let's say "pro gay" kinds of opinions or attitudes. As long as she herself is feminine, seeks Christ above all else, and is willing to follow you and be faithful, those problematic opinions can and will be smoothed out over time...

...I don't even see why it would be necessary to tell a woman that you don't think women should vote as a part of courting her or discerning whether you should court her. If she disagrees so what? I guarantee she also has hundreds of other nonsense opinions. She's a woman.

A woman who has strong political opinions, even if they match with yours is also more likely to be more disagreeable and have more of a personality type that's been going to lead to a lot more clashes when you are around her. I can see how this is going to lead to some issues if you are around her constantly, such as if you are married to her. That's why I would prefer for a potential wife to be apolitical.

I would tend to agree with these comments, which have value for any single man to consider when screening for long-term relationship suitability. It also has relevance for men in existing relationships in the context of "educating" their women.

To keep the thread topics on track, I've continued the discussion with a detailed post in the thread 'Who should you Marry':

Screening for Wifey based on Political Views and other Opinions: Benefits, Challenges, and Trade-Offs
 
That comment about meeting a high volume of women is very true, even if you're meeting ones that go to church. It not only builds confidence, but you get better at picking up on red flags. And just because a woman goes to church, it doesn't mean they take it seriously. I've noticed several of them are still sleeping around.
 
I'm 34 and started going to a Christian group for young adults (18-30). I would say most of them are early to mid 20s. I thought it would be weird at first, but the lady that runs it kept trying to get me to go. I think she's trying to help me find a girl. Her husband is a really good guy too and everyone that I've met is really nice. The world feels normal around people like this.

The girls absolutely talk by the way, because I've started running into more of them. There's one in particular I'm really interested in, but she's pretty uptight and awkard around men (probably a good thing). Maybe playing hard to get is working...

So I would focus on Christian activities. Or just move abroad :ROFLMAO:
Is that at an Orthodox Church? I've attended three different Orthodox Churches over the course of the last several years and none of them had that. It would be a great way to meet women and cool dudes too, but, alas, the Orthodox Churches I've been to have been akin to a spiritual sausage fest.
 
It would be a great way to meet women and cool dudes too, but, alas, the Orthodox Churches I've been to have been akin to a spiritual sausage fest.
There are good people at a lot of them but mostly it's old people, recent converts (a lot of whom are families), and young men. It's very regional to boot. I don't think the Roman Catholics have a lot of success either, and they have tons of churches, technically tons of people, and in big cities too. It seems that there is a similar issue of lots of men and few women, or few women who stick around for any events or serious inquiry of men who attend church vs. those they meet in "real life" that are apparently more capable of tingle induction.
 
Is that at an Orthodox Church? I've attended three different Orthodox Churches over the course of the last several years and none of them had that. It would be a great way to meet women and cool dudes too, but, alas, the Orthodox Churches I've been to have been akin to a spiritual sausage fest.
For this group you can go to any type of church, including Orthodox or Catholic. But it's pretty much all people that go to Protestant churches. At least where I live, a Protestant church with mostly right-wing people seems to be the way to go. But similar to you, I would prefer a more Orthodox environment.

Either way, they're good people. Lots of nice women and potential male friends.
 
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For this group you can go to any type of church, including Orthodox or Catholic. But it's pretty much all people that go to Protestant churches. At least where I live, a Protestant church with mostly right-wing people seems to be the way to go. But similar to you, I would prefer a more Orthodox environment.

Either way, they're good people. Lots of nice women and potential male friends.
I'll see if there is anything like that in my area. I don't want to go to a group that is affiliated with a Protestant or Catholic Church, but if I'd be open to a group that is open to all.
 
I don’t know why I continue to entertain this fantasy of meeting women at the grocery store. Think about it: when you go to the store, you shop, pay for your items, and then leave. None of these steps are really conducive to meeting a girl. If you try chatting with a girl about something she's looking at or has in her cart, there are tons of people around, and she might feel awkward. She might even worry someone is recording the conversation. Even if you manage to talk to her, it usually ends quickly with a simple goodbye. "Gotta go....I have tons of guys my own age I can be texting on Tinder so no need to stand here in public and talk with you."

Today, I saw a guy attempt an interaction with a girl near the freezer section. First time in awhile to be honest that I've seen a man approach a woman in a store. Anyhow, he made a comment, she replied, and after a few exchanges, she politely said nice to meet you and goodbye. That's pretty much how it is unless you're really attractive. It just seems pointless now.

And as hard as it is to talk to someone in the middle of a shopping aisle, it's actually your only hope of a number exchange. I mean...are you going to follow her to the checkout? You can't chat there. Are you going to follow her to her car? She'll think you're a stalker. Meeting someone this way just doesn't work out like it does in movies. Maybe it worked once upon a time, but I've never had success meeting someone at a grocery store. It's like chasing a fairy tale that never comes true.
 
I don’t know why I continue to entertain this fantasy of meeting women at the grocery store. Think about it: when you go to the store, you shop, pay for your items, and then leave. None of these steps are really conducive to meeting a girl. If you try chatting with a girl about something she's looking at or has in her cart, there are tons of people around, and she might feel awkward. She might even worry someone is recording the conversation. Even if you manage to talk to her, it usually ends quickly with a simple goodbye. "Gotta go....I have tons of guys my own age I can be texting on Tinder so no need to stand here in public and talk with you."

Today, I saw a guy attempt an interaction with a girl near the freezer section. First time in awhile to be honest that I've seen a man approach a woman in a store. Anyhow, he made a comment, she replied, and after a few exchanges, she politely said nice to meet you and goodbye. That's pretty much how it is unless you're really attractive. It just seems pointless now.

And as hard as it is to talk to someone in the middle of a shopping aisle, it's actually your only hope of a number exchange. I mean...are you going to follow her to the checkout? You can't chat there. Are you going to follow her to her car? She'll think you're a stalker. Meeting someone this way just doesn't work out like it does in movies. Maybe it worked once upon a time, but I've never had success meeting someone at a grocery store. It's like chasing a fairy tale that never comes true.

I've met girls at the grocery store but it was in special circumstances that allowed for it and totally random. Your assessment of just a random day at the grocery store I have also to be found correct, women are actually overly friendly at the grocery store but it's always casual and doesn't ever go beyond that I don't think I've ever really tried though.....unless again under those random one off circumstances. It's funny because the grocery store is normally full of beautiful woman, most are married moms but for the ones that aren't it makes sense right? If you're a girl that cooks it generally means you have a decent life and are decently put together for multiple reasons without dissecting it too much.
 
I've met girls at the grocery store but it was in special circumstances that allowed for it and totally random. Your assessment of just a random day at the grocery store I have also to be found correct, women are actually overly friendly at the grocery store but it's always casual and doesn't ever go beyond that I don't think I've ever really tried though.....unless again under those random one off circumstances. It's funny because the grocery store is normally full of beautiful woman, most are married moms but for the ones that aren't it makes sense right? If you're a girl that cooks it generally means you have a decent life and are decently put together for multiple reasons without dissecting it too much.

Yeah, the beautiful ones in their 20s are always at the higher end grocery stores. I never see them at Ralphs or some other major chain. And while I understand they are the ones who probably eat the most healthy, it's weird that they can afford to shop at these places.
 
I don’t know why I continue to entertain this fantasy of meeting women at the grocery store. Think about it: when you go to the store, you shop, pay for your items, and then leave. None of these steps are really conducive to meeting a girl. If you try chatting with a girl about something she's looking at or has in her cart, there are tons of people around, and she might feel awkward. She might even worry someone is recording the conversation. Even if you manage to talk to her, it usually ends quickly with a simple goodbye. "Gotta go....I have tons of guys my own age I can be texting on Tinder so no need to stand here in public and talk with you."

Today, I saw a guy attempt an interaction with a girl near the freezer section. First time in awhile to be honest that I've seen a man approach a woman in a store. Anyhow, he made a comment, she replied, and after a few exchanges, she politely said nice to meet you and goodbye. That's pretty much how it is unless you're really attractive. It just seems pointless now.

And as hard as it is to talk to someone in the middle of a shopping aisle, it's actually your only hope of a number exchange. I mean...are you going to follow her to the checkout? You can't chat there. Are you going to follow her to her car? She'll think you're a stalker. Meeting someone this way just doesn't work out like it does in movies. Maybe it worked once upon a time, but I've never had success meeting someone at a grocery store. It's like chasing a fairy tale that never comes true.
If you live in a major city large popular parks or popular beaches with a lot of benches are good places to meet women as you can sit on the adjacent bench to the woman and strike up a conversation in a way that seems fairly natural and plus if she is sitting on a bench by definition she is not in a hurry to go anywhere.

Also I find when walking traffic lights are a good opportunity to talk to women. When you are waiting for the traffic light to turn green so you can walk you can attempt some small talk and if it goes well continue from there. Again by definition the woman cannot go anywhere until the lights change so she is more inclined to speak to you.

The quieter bus stops outside of peak hours can also sometimes present an opportunity. Like sometimes you might see one attractive woman sitting by herself alone at the bus stop and nobody else is there. Just sit next to her and casually start a conversation. You know she isn't leaving until her bus comes. Although in this situation you need to act fast because her bus could show up at any time so try to keep it to a few minute conversation and then ask for the number.

Bookstores can be a good place to talk to women when they are browsing through books.

Coffee shops can be hit or miss. In some countries coffee shop game works a lot better than it does in western countries for various reasons. But pick a coffee shop with a younger demographic and try and pick a table next to a table with one or two younger women and try to spark up a conversation.

Public places close to university can be a good place. For example if there is a public park next to a univeristy campus or public seating nearby to a campus etc then it can be a target rich environmentr of younger women who are chilling out.

Walking game can be good also. If you are walking down the street and there is an attractive woman by herself walking in the same direction as you then you can try to start a conversation with her.

Public seating areas (e.g. lounges/tables) in shopping centres can also be a good spot. For example if a woman is sitting on one of those big lounges by herself its perfect as you can sit next to her and start chatting away or if she is at a table sit at the table next to her table if it is free and start a conversation.

It sounds like you are inexperienced in game. Once you have been practicing for a few years you know the "percentage plays" so to speak. Just like a professional basketball player or soccer player knows which shots are a higher percentage shot and which are a lower percentage shot someone who is experienced in game will know the right situations also.

You really should have a lock on the best places in your city with the best logistics to approach women.

But as a general rule:
-If the woman is walking look at her pace is it leisurely or does she seem in a hurry? If she seems in a hurry do not approach.
-Women by themselves are the ideal situation but two women together can still be approached. Once it becomes 3 or more women in a group it becomes unwieldy and the chance of success goes down. Save those situations for when you are in a group of guys and you want toi approach the group of women together/ I have approached large groups of women before but generally it is a low percentage play.
-Look at the woman's body language and how she is engaged with the world. If for example you see a woman sitting on the edge of a bench sitting diagonally facing out (so nobody sitting on the bench can see her face) with her legs crossed and she is wearing giant headphones and glued to her phone its clear she has taken every deliberate measure to avoid anybody speaking to her. This woman likely has serious issues, is probably a bitch and is best avoided.
-In certain situations you will know that the woman is waiting for a guy if you pay attention. For example if you see a woman sitting on a towel at the beach by herself but next to her shoes there are a pair of man's shoes it could mean for example her boyfriend has gone for a swim while she is sunbathing. This would be a low percentage play.
-Be aware of the spotlight effect and who else is listening/watching. If you are trying to get a woman's number while she is at work (for example a woman working at a cafe or gelato store) and her colleagues are standing right next to her it might make it awkward. Try and pick a time when her colleagues are not nearby or otherwise busy. Or if its a busy bus stop with 50 people standing next to her, etc. A woman most likely prefers not to feel like the whole world is listening in on you trying to pick her up.
-Look for wedding rings. Often you cannot tell if a ring is a wedding ring or just decoration but for example if you see a super expensive looking diamond ring its most likely a wedding ring.
-A woman working in a small shop by herself can be perfect especially if there is nobody else around. She has to be nice because you are a potential customer and if its quiet she is probably bored and would be happy to talk to you.
-Women walking their dogs make for a very easy opener. You can ask the pat the dog and start a conversation about the dog and then transition to her. Although the downside of this is it tends to not be my favoured demographic of women I would prefer as I usually prefer foreign women on temporary work visas (e.g. backpackers) or foreign students. Most people who have a dog are long term residents of a city so its either a local woman or a foreign woman who is already well settled in and built her social circle and already has her ego inflated as opposed to the more recently arrived foreign women who are more likely to be open to meeting a man.
-When you are flying the lounge areas of airports can be perfect because people often have a long time to kill beofre their flight but with the obvious downside that you and the woman may not live in the same city.
-Try to go to the parts of your city where foreign women are more likely to hang out.
 
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Yeah, the beautiful ones in their 20s are always at the higher end grocery stores. I never see them at Ralphs or some other major chain. And while I understand they are the ones who probably eat the most healthy, it's weird that they can afford to shop at these places.
Attractive younger women usually either have a boyfriend who is paying for at least some of her expenses or her daddy is paying for some of her expenses or she is monetizing her looks (only fans, sugar babying, escorting, instagram influencer, youtube influencer, twitter influencer, etc) or she is living beyond her means and racking up credit card debt. Rarely is it the case that a woman in her 20s has a good job and can afford to pay for all the fancy clothes, salon visits and organic food etc by herself from working a corporate job.
 
And as hard as it is to talk to someone in the middle of a shopping aisle, it's actually your only hope of a number exchange. I mean...are you going to follow her to the checkout? You can't chat there. Are you going to follow her to her car? She'll think you're a stalker.
This is one of those situations that calls for an express approach. You don't have the luxury of trying to build comfort with a 10 minute conversation. If you are going to attempt this try to warm her up with a 30 second conversation then ask if she has a boyfriend and go for the number. In general its still going to be a low percentage play and usually not worth bothering with in most circumstances.
 
do not advocate sin (porn)
When I was walking down the street today I overheard this woman (she was walking nearby to me) talking with what appeared to be her male friend about how she had a date with a French guy and all these other dates she with other guys she went on went on. Now this woman was at least 50 years old, morbidly obese (she was short but looked like she weighed 100 kilograms) and had the face of a warthog. I would not sleep with her if she was the last woman on earth and I am certain every man on this forum would feel the same. Who on earth is going on a date with this woman? It is sickening that men in western societies literally have zero standards. If you cannot get a decent woman just watch porn like a normal man instead of dating a hambeast.
 
When I was walking down the street today I overheard this woman (she was walking nearby to me) talking with what appeared to be her male friend about how she had a date with a French guy and all these other dates she with other guys she went on went on. Now this woman was at least 50 years old, morbidly obese (she was short but looked like she weighed 100 kilograms) and had the face of a warthog. I would not sleep with her if she was the last woman on earth and I am certain every man on this forum would feel the same. Who on earth is going on a date with this woman? It is sickening that men in western societies literally have zero standards. If you cannot get a decent woman just watch porn like a normal man instead of dating a hambeast.
I've never understood why men will choose to be with those women rather than live as bachelors. If my only choice in women were the type I find least attractive, I would simply remove myself from the dating pool. It boggles the mind men can't figure out how to be on their own, it seemed that in the past it was normal for men to be bachelors, becoming mountain men, explorers, working on ships, the army/navy, hoboing around, and doing other numerous activities that didn't involve settling down.
 
When I was walking down the street today I overheard this woman (she was walking nearby to me) talking with what appeared to be her male friend about how she had a date with a French guy and all these other dates she with other guys she went on went on. Now this woman was at least 50 years old, morbidly obese (she was short but looked like she weighed 100 kilograms) and had the face of a warthog. I would not sleep with her if she was the last woman on earth and I am certain every man on this forum would feel the same. Who on earth is going on a date with this woman? It is sickening that men in western societies literally have zero standards. If you cannot get a decent woman just watch porn like a normal man instead of dating a hambeast.
AS, some time ago you claimed to be an ethnic Indian (Punjabi) living in Australia.
if that was the case, surely your parents would have arranged you a nice Punjabi girl to get married to and start a family with. (Yes, plenty of nice and feminine young ladies in the Indian community. One of the upsides of being an ethnic Indian man. )
Instead, you are whining on these forum about women every day.
Something doesn't add up.
 
AS, some time ago you claimed to be an ethnic Indian (Punjabi) living in Australia.
if that was the case, surely your parents would have arranged you to marry a nice Punjabi girl to get married to and start a family with. (Yes, plenty of nice and feminine ladies in the Indian community. One of the upsides of being an ethnic Indian man. )
Instead, you are whining on trios forum about women every day.
Something doesn't add up.
I never claimed to be Indian. Others just misread into something I posted and jumped to a false conclusion. Other guys made that claim not me. Just to be clear I am not Indian. And there are guys on this forum who know me and can vouch I am not Indian.
 
Coffee shops can be hit or miss. In some countries coffee shop game works a lot better than it does in western countries for various reasons. But pick a coffee shop with a younger demographic and try and pick a table next to a table with one or two younger women and try to spark up a conversation.
Coffee shops are one of the best places in my opinion. Especially if you're a regular and the woman sees you interacting with the staff and other customers. Or if the woman goes there a lot too and you start to notice her.

But you're right about this being better for meeting younger women.
 
I think that young women these days very rarely get approached because guys prefer the dating app route or just watch porn, simp online, and don't interact with real women.

I am not a condifent and charismatic guy by any stretch. In fact I'm quite shy, but I will go and talk to a woman I find attractive if the situation seems appropriate. Generally the reaction seems to be that they perceive me to be way more confident than I actually feel, and I think thats because these days people just don't do it. Shoot your shot brothers, it might go down better than you think.
 
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