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Northern Pilgrim said:
Have you checked on social media apps for a gym more your style within a relatively close distance?
If all the gyms around are so bad, have you looked at setting up a home gym?
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Thanks for caring..

I think that my style is not the mainstream here, but those ones where I am on the waiting lists will probably be best.

In the mean time I will probably sign up for one to three months at that one with the annoying imperial units on the treadmill and the price and just put up with it until I make it into one of those with a waiting list. Yes, that one also annoys me by trying to force you to install an app just to get into the gym however they say that for "old people" they will offer an alternative. I am not old of course, but more a conscientious objector to the harvesting and theft of personal data. So I'll use the old person's solution there. The weights in that place were quite good however, all clean with what I am used to and the location is relatively simple to get to.

No, definitely could not do a home gym.
 
GoodShepherd said:
This guy only trains 3 times a week for just over an hour each time, 50% of his training is legs and core and clearly he has demonstrated that we cant judge a persons strength by how they look.
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Not true about the 3 times per week thing. Anatoly is a world famous and high ranking powerlifter (high ranking for his weight class). He also makes a lot of prank youtube videos where he pretends to be a cleaner or something and then lifts massive weights in front of people.
 
Australia Sucks said:
Not true about the 3 times per week thing. Anatoly is a world famous and high ranking powerlifter (high ranking for his weight class). He also makes a lot of prank youtube videos where he pretends to be a cleaner or something and then lifts massive weights in front of people.
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He said in one of his videos that he trains 3 times a week
 
GoodShepherd said:
He said in one of his videos that he trains 3 times a week
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Maybe he means each muscle group 3 times per week rather than he only trains in total 3 times per week. He holds some world records for his weight class in powerlifting. I have never known any champion athlete to only train 3 times per week.
 
MrRedsquare said:
It's all about PEDS - 99 percent of "influencers" and bodybuliders are on something.

Industry secret - They all know It's all lies. But no one want's to admit it.
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Even with performance enhancing drugs you still need to train you cannot get that strong with only 3 - 5 hours of training per week.
 
Australia Sucks said:
If you only needed to train three 1.5 hour sessions per week how come there aren't millions of people as strong as him? I think he is just spouting nonsense to gain followers.
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I read a book some years back called body by science and the guys on there only trained 12min a week but they use gym machines, they train each muscle group to failure and only do 1 set each and they focus on muscle recovery, the book was written by personal trainers
 
GoodShepherd said:
I read a book some years back called body by science and the guys on there only trained 12min a week but they use gym machines, they train each muscle group to failure and only do 1 set each and they focus on muscle recovery, the book was written by personal trainers
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I expect this approach would be poor in building stamina and endurance, and in reducing insulin resistance.
 
GoodShepherd said:
I read a book some years back called body by science and the guys on there only trained 12min a week but they use gym machines, they train each muscle group to failure and only do 1 set each and they focus on muscle recovery, the book was written by personal trainers
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Yeah but those guys were not winning elite weightlifting competitions like Anatoly is. If what he is saying is true he would be the first athlete it the history of humanity to be number one in his field while only training 3 - 5 hours per week.
 
GoodShepherd said:
I read a book some years back called body by science and the guys on there only trained 12min a week but they use gym machines, they train each muscle group to failure and only do 1 set each and they focus on muscle recovery, the book was written by personal trainers
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You have to keep in mind that in the fitness industry EVERYONE is trying whatever they can to differentiate themselves from everyone else for profit, which means they constantly bullshit for attention. Lifting weights isn't complicated but that isn't what garners attention so everyone just spouts off crazy crap to make a buck. Some of the things lately have really gotten out of hand, guys saying things which just make no sense whatsoever with a straight face because they know people will eat it up, negatively or positively it doesn't matter.

Go to one of those trying to be special gyms and watch a trainer training somebody making them do all kinds of crazy crap that makes no sense whatsoever and is just risking injury. It's almost comical the things you see them have people do, but they have to do that....if they just sit there and had them do basic stuff that actually makes sense they would never go to them again.
 
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If you guys don't believe that Anatoly can be that strong training only 3 times a week, go back to page one of this thread and start reading. He probably didn't start out training only 4.5 hours a week, but it certainly is possible to maintain at his level with that.

Lots of strength programs only have 3 sessions a week because your body needs time to recover. Also, lifting heavy will demand more adaptation than messing around doing the same routine for months or years with calisthenics or light dumbbells.
 
FrancisK said:
You have to keep in mind that in the fitness industry EVERYONE is trying whatever they can to differentiate themselves from everyone else for profit, which means they constantly bullshit for attention. Lifting weights isn't complicated but that isn't what garners attention so everyone just spouts off crazy crap to make a buck. Some of the things lately have really gotten out of hand, guys saying things which just make no sense whatsoever with a straight face because they know people will eat it up, negatively or positively it doesn't matter.

Go to one of those trying to be special gyms and watch a trainer training somebody making them do all kinds of crazy crap that makes no sense whatsoever and is just risking injury. It's almost comical the things you see them have people do, but they have to do that....if they just sit there and had them do basic stuff that actually makes sense they would never go to them again.
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Yes, I've been thinking about this a lot lately. I'm in my fifties now and been into fitness, lifting, and nutrition since right around when I turned forty and was starting to get chubby and people started to make fun of me. I hated it, so I decided to figure out how to fix it.

At this point I've tried a lot of things and come up with my own routine which I really think is ideal for most people who aren't on TRT or other performance enhancing drugs. It's super simple. Work out most days, basic compound lifts in short-but-intense workouts that last between 20 and 30 minutes, divided into a push day, pull day, and legs day. Also some isometric workouts and yoga for core strength, balance, and flexibility. Try to mostly eat food your great grandparents would recognize as food and get enough protein without obsessing over protein. Get enough sleep.

That's pretty much it. I could explain it all with specific workout plans to anyone in less than a half hour, so I can't see how I could make a career as a personal trainer or "influencer" out of it. Like you say, you'd have to add a lot of pointless fluff to do that. That's the fitness industry for you, people trying to stretch what's very simple into a career, likely while lying about being on drugs.
 
FrancisK said:
You have to keep in mind that in the fitness industry EVERYONE is trying whatever they can to differentiate themselves from everyone else for profit, which means they constantly bullshit for attention. Lifting weights isn't complicated but that isn't what garners attention so everyone just spouts off crazy crap to make a buck. Some of the things lately have really gotten out of hand, guys saying things which just make no sense whatsoever with a straight face because they know people will eat it up, negatively or positively it doesn't matter.

Go to one of those trying to be special gyms and watch a trainer training somebody making them do all kinds of crazy crap that makes no sense whatsoever and is just risking injury. It's almost comical the things you see them have people do, but they have to do that....if they just sit there and had them do basic stuff that actually makes sense they would never go to them again.
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Having a personal trainer is like going to an expensive private school, because of the money you are paying, these schools give the kids lots of work and extra homework etc to justify the extra expenses.

When I read body by science many many years ago it really made a lot of sense and it explained the process of our muscles tearing during exercise and the recovery process afterwards. When I got hold of this book It was during a time in my life when I just had a baby and a new job I was very very busy and no time to train and exercise like before so this concept helped me a lot because of how much time it saved me and at least I could still try keep fit, only downside is you supposed to have special gym equipment for it to be most effective, I didnt have.

Anatoly also makes a lot of sense, he doesnt train for looks but for strength, so his training is prioritization training, I could tell from his videos he has a very strong core, whether he is being fully honest or not I think the legs and core training is very important and probably a neglected area in training.
 
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