Christianity In The USA

[Samseau]

Well... let's just say that wasn't a true baptism.

You know, I was talking to my Bishop about this, and he said even though a proper baptism is a full immersion with triple dunks, he would still let this slide in the name of economia. Water + Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and provided the person didn't know any better, then he lets it slide. Not say all Bishops would let this slide but mine does.

 

[Samseau]

What is happening in America is a big purification of the Churches. Really only the most hardcore and zealous members are going to remain.

 

[budoslavic]

 

[Douglas Quaid]

So I'm starting to really agree with people warning about Evangelical churches. I go to one and the pastor today was talking about dispensationalism and how the Israelis are God's chosen people. Basically more Jew worship from cuckservatives. It puts me in a bad spot because I like a lot of other things about going to this church. I'm still relatively new to Christianity and nowhere near having a valid argument, but his emphasis on how wrong it is to think otherwise really got on my nerves.

I'm curious to hear what other people think about this topic. Their viewpoint has a lot to do with the Old Testament and God's promises to Abraham.

 

[Iakobos]

So I'm starting to really agree with people warning about Evangelical churches. I go to one and the pastor today was talking about dispensationalism and how the Israelis are God's chosen people. Basically more Jew worship from cuckservatives. It puts me in a bad spot because I like a lot of other things about going to this church. I'm still relatively new to Christianity and nowhere near having a valid argument, but his emphasis on how wrong it is to think otherwise really got on my nerves.

I'm curious to hear what other people think about this topic. Their viewpoint has a lot to do with the Old Testament and God's promises to Abraham.

It's really simple to debunk their viewpoint.

1) Israel of the Bible is not the same thing as the modern nation-state of Israel. Just because they're in the same geographic location and call themselves by the name Israel doesn't make them the same as Biblical Israel.

2) The Church is the true Israel of the Bible aka the true seed of Abraham. This is thoroughly supported by the New Testament. Relevant topic: https://christisking.cc/threads/proof-that-the-christian-church-is-the-true-israel.68/#post-2237

3) Christ specifically disavows the Jews who reject him, repeatedly, enraging them so much that they try to kill Him on the spot. In my post linked above you can see a few examples of parables. It doesn't get any more explicit than when he tells the Jews:

43 “Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it. 44 And whoever falls on this stone will be broken; but on whomever it falls, it will grind him to powder.”