All the comments think it's propaganda. lol, who knows
Relocating to Southeast Asia
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All the comments think it's propaganda. lol, who knows
Most are completely clueless about the Philippines, the culture, and the women there. I could go on about this for hours, but you will never understand it unless, you have lived there for years, or married a Filipina, learned a little of the language, and have close Filipino friends, and you better know the legal system there too, and you better know your blood type as well, naive white men have absolutely no idea what they are getting into
Out of all of the asians the Japanese are the most honorable people but they are very racist good luck trying to get them to accept you as a foreigner.
So elaborate on what they are getting into, this message makes it seem as if it's a warzone where half the country is preying on them.
I am sure quite a few older readers are interested in visiting and possibly relocating to the Philippines so please share some cons of and donts in the Philippines.
One of the biggest pros going for the Philippines is that it is the only Christian country in Asia, with a pious people. It makes integration a bit easier, especially for Catholics. It feels good to be in a country where you can experience your faith almost like your grandparents did.
The cons run deep though, it's kind of an eternal failed state, and that is deeply rooted in their colonial mindset, pretty similar to India's. Just as it looked like they were going to turn the corner with Duterte, the GAE sends them decades back to Marcos comprador mediocrity. Indonesia is going to develop, Laos and Cambodia are well on their war, while the Islands are still going to be mired in third world mediocrity.
The cons run deep though, it's kind of an eternal failed state, and that is deeply rooted in their colonial mindset, pretty similar to India's. Just as it looked like they were going to turn the corner with Duterte, the GAE sends them decades back to Marcos comprador mediocrity. Indonesia is going to develop, Laos and Cambodia are well on their war, while the Islands are still going to be mired in third world mediocrity.
That is the biggest lie ever told, nowhere near a pious people, I would argue white people in America are much more pious. Catholic in name only. Culturally Catholic. Have you ever actually lived there?
My brother moved to Vietnam and it has worked out very well for him. Seems to be an overlooked country with nice people and good values in general.
No, I've never lived there, nor do I ever plan to, but I've been to Manila. Also, in the US, Filipino Americans are more pious than White Americans, especially in the areas where they live (mostly big cities esp on the west coast).
Iakobos
Orthodox
I've spent considerable time there and while its got its flaws it's a great place with a lot of great people. If anyone has curiosity about the country I'd be happy to answer questions.
I was going to say from my experience, traditional might be a better word for it than pious. After looking up the definition of pious, I have to agree with your assessment.
It is a very deeply religious society on the surface, but becoming extremely secular by the day. Traditional family roles are still being upheld but there is a never ending stream of propaganda being pushed. Many folks claim to be Catholic but will admit that they don't seem to value or uphold things like attending mass, etc...
Are you reluctant to recommend others living and interacting with those from SEA given the other posts on modern dating/family/wives?
Iakobos
Orthodox
If I follow your meaning, I wouldn't be reluctant to recommend it no, but I would stress that the mindset a person brings with them is going to dramatically color their experience. I knew many people who thrived in Vietnam but I also met a lot of bitter expats who did nothing but complain all the time and hated their lives and focused only on the negative and dug themselves into pits with women of ill repute. I also wouldn't necessarily group SEA together as while there are similarities, the differences are quite big.
What does thriving in Vietnam look like? Like they started a family and run a restaurant?
Iakobos
Orthodox
Good question. The people I viewed as most successful usually fell in one of three categories:
-> Ran small/medium businesses, anything from restaurants/cafes to vape shops to video production to import/export
-> Had remote work that could be performed from that timezone, if you have this with even half-decent wages by western standards you are set
-> Enjoyed working in education and found their ways into well-compensated international school teaching positions or related niches
The majority of the (successful) men would marry locals, this is a virtual must to be successful in local business. Expat women were slim pickings, sometimes interesting to hang out with but rarely wife material, moreso either party-oriented or career-oriented. Of course, a lot of men fell into traps and simply caroused and slept around with loose women ad infinitum until one day they woke up and discovered they were no longer attractive to the women they wanted. Peter Pan syndrome is real and it takes discipline and willpower to avoid those traps.
Building a career there from scratch is tough, teaching English is a good start for those who are younger and have time to maneuver but in the long term it's tricky to build into something that will provide for a family longterm. But it can be used as a temporary income solution with a mind towards a pivot. Or if you find that you are truly dawn to teach then you can make a decent career working at the international schools teaching any of a variety of subjects.
Like any developing country you mainly don't want to compete with local labor in any regard. Oh, and there were also retired dudes there who would run a bar or something to take the edge off expenses while living on a pension. But that's probably a bit less relevant to users here I don't think most of us are at that point.
Yes, this is where you tend to think that others are out and about for bad things, and bitter to boot, which I don't blame you as I see all sorts of guys that are likely in that category from the little I know about SEA. That's not me though, you should understand that.
Good. The place is a good one for cost of living and low stress, I've heard.
I'm not going there so you don't have to worry about it; I'm just curious in general as to what has been seen and heard, and it sounds like you know. You are also likely jaded as you see tons of washed up losers - I know what you mean. But that happens precisely because WGF and SMV, or at least perceived genes until the guys are just so far gone it's crazy. Like most, anyone inquiring is seen as a Forney type. I laughed when I actually met that guy or heard about people talking about him 10 years ago. Not picking on him, but seriously, that's worlds away from my reality. That's closer to chubby LARPing, which you likely see a TON in SEA. No? Even if you are smart and can have some online "red pill" presence.
Too easy.
Tons of western women working/volunteering in various ministries/NGOs. Great wife material for Christian men intending to live abroad.
If you can get connected to the right circles there are eligible ladies from 20+ countries.
Yeah my brother teaches English at a good school and married a local, and that has greatly benefitted his experience.
Sounds great.
And as far as language barrier when dealing with locals, is it okay? I met a few Filipino man here in the States and it is hard to understand what they're saying. And they're supposedly here for many years. Do I need to check my ears or they speak a broken English?