The Destruction of Modern Women

[FrancisK]

Do you care to elaborate then for the benefit of forum members?

No I'm going to pass for the time being, even if I believe you as being sincere with the way things have gone in this thread I just don't want to deal with what is going to come of it, if that makes me petty then so be it actions have consequences. I only brought it up because people were saying that nobody can offer help beyond the common sentiment which is absolutely not true. I definitely have a lot of valuable first hand experience and guidance to offer but I also have some hard reality truths to share which go against the common hopes in this thread and I'm really not interested in having to fight over every word I say trying to prove that my intentions are good. Maybe in the future when the conversation is less contentious and my urge to try and help every brother here that I can overcomes my pettiness.

 

[stadtaffe]

This thread carries a misleading name.

We need a thread "women complaining thread" or " @Blade Runner 's complaining thread" so that the relevant people can post their miseries in there ad nauseum and only if there is something specific about modern women can it go in here.

Blade Runner can then complain to his heart's content in his own personal safe space, as he seems to want to do, and then, as he also requests, we will not click on it. If he wants us to not click on it then please own it with a title such as " @Blade Runner 's complaining thread"

I will ignore it, but honestly, you complainers to some extent deserve to be paraded through the village and have tomatoes thrown at you for your behaviour. I will refrain from opening the thread though if you own it in that way, if you need to complain that badly, it's probably better out than in.

If TPTB on this forum do not clamp down on incel and MGTOW rantings and ravings this forum will go down the tube. Even if it has other worthy threads and discussions, the frenzy around these miserable threads will encourage and attract the wrong types until there is a putrid stench in the forum that most normal people won't want to have anything to do with it anymore.

 

[Shaquilleoatmeal]

This thread carries a misleading name.

We need a thread "women complaining thread" or " @Blade Runner 's complaining thread" so that the relevant people can post their miseries in there ad nauseum and only if there is something specific about modern women can it go in here.

Blade Runner can then complain to his heart's content in his own personal safe space, as he seems to want to do, and then, as he also requests, we will not click on it. If he wants us to not click on it then please own it with a title such as " @Blade Runner 's complaining thread"

I will ignore it, but honestly, you complainers to some extent deserve to be paraded through the village and have tomatoes thrown at you for your behaviour. I will refrain from opening the thread though if you own it in that way, if you need to complain that badly, it's probably better out than in.

If TPTB on this forum do not clamp down on incel and MGTOW rantings and ravings this forum will go down the tube. Even if it has other worthy threads and discussions, the frenzy around these miserable threads will encourage and attract the wrong types until there is a putrid stench in the forum that most normal people won't want to have anything to do with it anymore.

I'm not saying you can't comment, or you have to agree. But you are going to have to accept that there are members on here dealing with the problems of modern women out in the real world, and we will be talking about it. It seems to really bother some people around here, and it would be better to ignore this thread instead of repeatedly disrupting it in my opinion.

 

[Australia Sucks]

This thread carries a misleading name.

Why don't you start your own thread and call it something else and steer the discussion in the direction you want. This thread is already over 100 pages long and the tone is already set. You are not going to change it. Rather than ranting against the thread just start your own thread and guide in the direction you want. Live and let live.

If TPTB on this forum do not clamp down on incel and MGTOW rantings and ravings this forum will go down the tube. Even if it has other worthy threads and discussions, the frenzy around these miserable threads will encourage and attract the wrong types until there is a putrid stench in the forum that most normal people won't want to have anything to do with it anymore.

Anything productive i.e. when people try to discuss things such as travel datasheets or relocation threads or wife hunting abroad threads, etc purity spiralists on the forum will barge into thread and say "xyz person is just trying to go overseas to fornicate! This discussion should be shut down!" Mind you almost all of those people are hypocrites who almost certainly did not keep their virginity until marriage and have engaged in fornication throughout their lives. As they say let he who is free of sin cast the first stone.

These arrogant holier than thou purity spiralists are the people that are killing the forum (not the guys complaining on threads like this) because they have removed the main outlet for productive discussions. Yet the mods do nothing to shut these people down. These people remind of the pharisees in the bible. If these people were shut down by the mods rather than supported the forum would thrive.

I have made this point several times and nobody has rebutted it yet. What made the Rooshvforum take off was the travel threads/datasheets. The political stuff all came later once an audience was already built. Without the travel datasheets this forum will remain dead and slide into obscurity and irrelevance.

 

[Douglas Quaid]

Honesty the putrid stench is coming from the people whining about this thread. Talk about pathetic and possessive. Or the people making it look like we don't have lives outside of the internet, when it's the complete opposite. You will run into all types of women when you have a life out in the real world. But I would say that's more along the lines of the wrong type of posters. You are the ones making this thread way more miserable than it needs to be.

 

[Blade Runner]

If TPTB on this forum do not clamp down on incel and MGTOW rantings and ravings this forum will go down the tube.

You specifically mentioned me several times there, and you know what? I'm not even mad at you. I have noticed this behavior on other forums I've seen, which are categories or topics that have nothing to do with this site. The similarity is that people call for censoring and then make all sorts of claims that the "spill over" or distraction somehow (in one thread) poisons an entire site, when thousands of other threads are available to post on, and aren't touched. Think of it. Is it right to call for censoring when you can't control your own impulses and emotions, so you think others should ban or suspend others, or get rid of threads? That's what unstable lefties and women do.

I have made this point several times and nobody has rebutted it yet.

And that's why I have, in general, supported what you have put forth. At least you're honest and trying to find things, improve traffic, etc.

 

[stadtaffe]

Anything productive i.e. when people try to discuss things such as travel datasheets or relocation threads or wife hunting abroad threads, etc purity spiralists on the forum will barge into thread and say "xyz person is just trying to go overseas to fornicate!

For the record I never attacked your datasheet. I will never attack any future data sheets from anyone and try to contribute positively.

Even if you post on something very niche, as you do, like a very obscure country that no-one likes or self-destructively restricting yourself to 18 year old virgins, I'll try to just make some constructive comments or say nothing.

However if you do post another one, try to make it appeal to a larger audience.

These arrogant holier than thou purity spiralists are the people that are killing the forum (not the guys complaining on threads like this) because they have removed the main outlet for productive discussions. Yet the mods do nothing to shut these people down. These people remind of the pharisees in the bible. If these people were shut down by the mods rather than supported the forum would thrive.

Yes, you are getting more refined about what is actually killing the forum.

The complaining about women is not good, but the lack of crack-down on "purity spiralists" was worse.

I suspect however that a receptive audience for "data sheets" or anything else positive or helpful around the topic of courtship and women no longer exists on this forum. Most people who really wanted that took the hint that none of that was allowed around these parts and moved on and are not coming back.

I'm personally too protective towards the region I choose to call home to create a data sheet about it and let the people on this forum trash the places or the women in them.

I try to only go on this forum to discuss topics unconnected with women however there is often a noise coming out of this thread that is not only not helpful but positively toxic. It's bad enough at times to make one not want to be on the forum at all, even if the other threads are constructive.

You specifically mentioned me several times there, and you know what?

I'll try to leave you in peace, don't want to upset you either, at least you're not a "purity spiralist"

 

[SkiPro]

@stadtaffe whilst I don't agree with pretty much everything @Australia Sucks says, he should have a place to say it.

This thread in particular is doomy BUT I don't think it's all bad to have a place for noticing women's increasingly poor behaviour.

I think that what was probably intended originally for this thread was commentary on but it's just turned into a conversation that goes round and round on the same topics.

I'm equally guilty of doom posting in this thread but I am just posting my cynical jaded view as a middle aged guy. I'm trying to be less doomy in general and staying away from the threads on the forum that make me negative. Probably staying away from the forum would be better but it's a place where I can get news and share my thoughts with like-minded individuals.

 

[Blade Runner]

I try to only go on this forum to discuss topics unconnected with women however there is often a noise coming out of this thread that is not only not helpful but positively toxic. It's bad enough at times to make one not want to be on the forum at all, even if the other threads are constructive.

Again, you came at me hard which is the only reason why I'm asking you about this, since you also admit here again that there is some insecurity you have with others posting on a topic you can totally ignore. There is a wealth of information on this forum even, in many other threads, and discussions on many other topics. How one could say that because of this single thread "it's bad enough to make one not be on the forum at all" is beyond me. I've talked to you before and you were fine. You may mean well, but I do too, and your censoring or wailing about what others are saying isn't the right approach to take. Period.

What's more, if you come here to talk about topics unconnected with women, that means you implicitly admit there is something majorly wrong in the world, and that extends directly to women. Why can't we all just admit it?

My purpose is to get guys to understand that the likelihood is such that the ROI with women isn't there anymore, and one might need to just move on. Others suggest that marrying down and living a bleak life is something that can or should be done, just to have kids, but I find that advice bad for most, and at worst it's actually the selfish married crowd that thinks it helps them with investment from other men, and workers that will improve the future for their families. Why else would you promote men sacrificing everything for nothing? It's sorta funny how obvious this is to me. Most people in America or even Europe aren't even having kids such that there country can "survive" as most have nothing to fight for, given the Kalergi invasions that have occurred.

I think that what was probably intended originally for this thread was commentary on but it's just turned into a conversation that goes round and round on the same topics.

It does. But so does finance. So does "frame" with your wife. So does central banking. So does catechism and apologetics.

See how specifically pointing out this thread as anything different on the site is really quite arbitrary? Roosh didn't make the thread for no reason ... he did because it was apparent long ago, and we haven't had the "great reset" or depop, or whatever ghey crisis Neil Howe thinks is coming.

 

[stadtaffe]

I'm equally guilty of doom posting in this thread but I am just posting my cynical jaded view as a middle aged guy.

I'm not guilty of it, I'm middle aged but not cynical and not into doom either

I have made a few threads that no-one cared about regarding some specific women who caused me some annoyance, the one with her gay friends. I never complained anywhere on this forum about some other women I was seeing or had met who annoyed me. I don't even complain here about my ex and the challenges that poses although they are few as I chose relatively well even if it didn't work out in the end.

My purpose is to get guys to understand that the likelihood is such that the ROI with women isn't there anymore, and one might need to just move on.

That is COMPLETELY SICK!! Just when I want to leave you in peace you come out and say something like that!

If I listened to you I'd have to commit hari kiri!!

Others suggest that marrying down and living a bleak life is something that can or should be done, just to have kids,

You really think it's binary, 0 or 1

0 : bleak life marrying down
1 : avoid having women in your life at all

(preferably the latter according to you)

ROI with women isn't there anymore

Men do have to work much harder than their grandfathers in 2025 to end up with less desirable women. The return is still there however, it's just lower and harder to achieve.

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

What's it like trying to date a woman who's been single for a while?

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[FrancisK]

What's it like trying to date a woman who's been single for a while?

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Chairman Meow!!! Hahhahahahaha

 

[Blade Runner]

What's it like trying to date a woman who's been single for a while?

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Amazing accent and great story, bro

That was some funny shit. Chairman Meow lol

 

[Blade Runner]

If I listened to you I'd have to commit hari kiri!!

Why would you do that? I think you're proving my point here. Isn't no woman always a possibility, just different % probabilities, for every man?

You really think it's binary, 0 or 1

0 : bleak life marrying down
1 : avoid having women in your life at all

That's not what I said at all. Go read again.

The return is still there however, it's just lower and harder to achieve.

You don't understand value and risk assessment.

Newsflash: I value certain things and have a point of view that is particular to me, of course. The important thing to do in dialogue with me is to understand that I'm very precise in my language and logic, so don't read into my thoughts what isn't there, or what you value to various degrees. Read what I've stated and understand the concepts. Thanks.

 

[Samseau]

What's it like trying to date a woman who's been single for a while?

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This matches my experience. Most women choose to be single because they refuse to make even the smallest of compromises with men. They might have a fling here and there to satisfy themselves and then it's back to 100% me time.

There is no other explanation as to why 50% of women are childless other than this phenomena. By the way, this is as destructive to civilization as if 50% of men refused to work. Would have a similar deleterious effect.

 

[analyst_green]

This matches my experience. Most women choose to be single because they refuse to make even the smallest of compromises with men. They might have a fling here and there to satisfy themselves and then it's back to 100% me time.

There is no other explanation as to why 50% of women are childless other than this phenomena. By the way, this is as destructive to civilization as if 50% of men refused to work. Would have a similar deleterious effect.

1 in 5 men under 25 are NEETs (not in employment, education, or training) and not looking for work either. Even in my parish I know a couple of NEETs. I'd say that's a pretty worrying sign.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/more-young-men-becoming-neets-110422698.html

 

[FrancisK]

This matches my experience. Most women choose to be single because they refuse to make even the smallest of compromises with men. They might have a fling here and there to satisfy themselves and then it's back to 100% me time.

There is no other explanation as to why 50% of women are childless other than this phenomena. By the way, this is as destructive to civilization as if 50% of men refused to work. Would have a similar deleterious effect.

My experience is that women who stay "single" do so because they don't know how to not be single. They collect guys and they'll give you all the love in the world but then turn around and do the same for anyone else that pops their head up. Not all women though, I know a lot of really nice loyal girls...

 

[Shaquilleoatmeal]

1 in 5 men under 25 are NEETs (not in employment, education, or training) and not looking for work either. Even in my parish I know a couple of NEETs. I'd say that's a pretty worrying sign.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/more-young-men-becoming-neets-110422698.html

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[Australia Sucks]

This matches my experience. Most women choose to be single because they refuse to make even the smallest of compromises with men. They might have a fling here and there to satisfy themselves and then it's back to 100% me time.

There is no other explanation as to why 50% of women are childless other than this phenomena. By the way, this is as destructive to civilization as if 50% of men refused to work. Would have a similar deleterious effect.

Just to give an example of this in real life I recently cold approached this very attractive girl who was Indian (she was one of those rare Indian women that are attractive). She did not look obviously Indian and she told me many people ask if she is South American.

She was born in Australia to Indian parents. She was 23.

She had an "artsy" lifestyle and did freelance work in the movie production process or some such. Her life was focused on her work and she basically told me she had a friends with benefits who was a black Brazilian guy she met off hinge which she meets up with every two weeks for sex and she wasn't interested in any relationship because she is "too busy for that". She told me when she turns 28 she will look for an Indian man to marry and she said her parents will introduce her to various men and she can choose the one she likes. She was a Punjabi Sikh. Can you imagine how ran through this girl probably already is? I am sure her notch count is already double digit and by the time she turns 28 it will probably be at 50+ and I pity the poor Indian simp who ends up marrying this harlot.

 

[GodfatherPartTwo]

I have made this point several times and nobody has rebutted it yet. What made the Rooshvforum take off was the travel threads/datasheets. The political stuff all came later once an audience was already built. Without the travel datasheets this forum will remain dead and slide into obscurity and irrelevance.

That was more lighting in a bottle than a guaranteed recipe for success. The RVF took off at a time when traveling abroad for broads was all the rage. There is no guarantee that permitting that kind of thread here will grow this forum, especially since it doesn't have the same target audience as early RVF did.