Older Men, Younger Women

It_Is_My_Time said:
It existed, but it was much more rare. Yes, slave owners had sex with their slaves and produced Mulato's who were mostly house slaves. Yes, across the Middle East you do have a mix of races, that goes back many centuries. 99% of Europeans didn't come into contact, in a social sense, with non-Europeans until the invention of jet technology.
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"European" isn't just one race, nobody from Europe calls themselves "European" they call themselves whatever culture they actually are, that's an American thing because everyone is a random mix of races....your premise is a flawed cope. If you meet a person who resides in the continent of Europe and ask where they are from they or what their culture is they don't say "Europe" or "European".

Regardless that can be applied to every culture on the planet not just Europeans, I don't know how you found a way in your head to apply it specifically to "europeans". If anything it's the opposite, Europeans were race mixing before anyone.

In your example of the Middle East it was taboo to marry outside your village, let alone your race, and that is still true today preservation of culture has an incredible amount of importance.

None of these race debates interest me I'm not here for that garbage but if you're going to say things at least make sense....
 
It_Is_My_Time said:
Are we playing God when we jump on a jet and fly for thousands of miles? Without said technology, race mixing would largely not exist. Up until about 70 years ago, for anyone to travel to a far distance where an entire difference race lived, was almost unheard of and reserved for only the most well off and connected. My own grandfather, who fought in WW2, marveled at the different world he experiences in the south pacific. Because no one else in his small town would have seen such things. I, today, can jump on a jet and see the same things in less than a day. It took an entire world war and his survival to tell those stories, just 80 years ago.

Now we can just jet set around the world and experience all sorts of things that maybe were never intended for humans. Maybe this is why severe depression and dependence is so rife among people, we are experiencing stress and circumstances that are foreign to the human experience.
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Wait you are comparing the miracle of conception, birth and human life to the creation of a jet?

One, we do not fully understand including the field of embryology.
The second we fully understand and we can replicate the physics involved.

In summary, no one fully understands the full cell signaling involved in the creation of human life. Yes, it's a miracle, beyond physics likely we will ever know.
 
FrancisK said:
"European" isn't just one race, nobody from Europe calls themselves "European" they call themselves whatever culture they actually are, that's an American thing because everyone is a random mix of races....your premise is a flawed cope. If you meet a person who resides in the continent of Europe and ask where they are from they or what their culture is they don't say "Europe" or "European".

Regardless that can be applied to every culture on the planet not just Europeans, I don't know how you found a way in your head to apply it specifically to "europeans". If anything it's the opposite, Europeans were race mixing before anyone.

In your example of the Middle East it was taboo to marry outside your village, let alone your race, and that is still true today preservation of culture has an incredible amount of importance.

None of these race debates interest me I'm not here for that garbage but if you're going to say things at least make sense....
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They are one race, they are multiple ethnicities. They were never concerned with race until non-Whites showed up and wrecked all their nations. Now they notice race and White nationalism is growing across Europe as a result.
 
SeekingTruth said:
Wait you are comparing the miracle of conception, birth and human life to the creation of a jet?

One, we do not fully understand including the field of embryology.
The second we fully understand and we can replicate the physics involved.

In summary, no one fully understands the full cell signaling involved in the creation of human life. Yes, it's a miracle, beyond physics likely we will ever know.
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I’m comparing human beings who lived and evolved over thousands of years v how we have lived for the last 80 years.
 
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It_Is_My_Time said:
They are one race, they are multiple ethnicities. They were never concerned with race until non-Whites showed up and wrecked all their nations. Now they notice race and White nationalism is growing across Europe as a result.
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Typed out a reply but forget it, im not getting sucked into this stupid race garbage, go ahead cling to whatever you want for identity if that's what you need. This place is called Christ is King and the race of Christ doesn't matter.
 
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What do you say to a girl that was interested in going out with you but then once she finds out you’re 18 years older she’s getting cold feet? Feed me a line.
 
analyst_green said:
But there's another possibility, that she likes him and also does care about the age gap. The two are not mutually exclusive.
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RedLagoon said:
If you're significantly older than her and she "likes" you she'll be after the $ most of the time unfortunately.
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Or she thought the man wasn’t as old because his appearance was more youthful compared with other men his age.
 
Shaquilleoatmeal said:
Or she thought the man wasn’t as old because his appearance was more youthful compared with other men his age.
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Well generally men who are mature and have money (which comes from having discipline) are a better pick than some Zoomer addicted to pr0n yes. A lot of men don't understand the female's point of few and I can't blame pretty young women marrying older men who are successful in one way or another.
 
I think a big problem in these situations is that women lean heavily on the opinions of their friends over anyone else. I imagine a lot of the single 30 somethings have skipped on ideal men in their past based solely off their friends nitpicking them during a gossip session.

If you are going to find a much younger woman I'd look very closely at the company she keeps. Because its likely that "he's way too old" is going to be one of the things her friends would use to keep her single if you are looking to marry someone younger.

Even then you have to account for the family, particularly if you are looking for someone "trad" is her dad going to have a problem with the age gap? Even if her family is conservative and Christian etc it doesn't guarantee they would give their daughter away to someone much older. The prejudice against age gaps might be less among that demographic but it still likely exists.
 
Lawrence87 said:
I think a big problem in these situations is that women lean heavily on the opinions of their friends over anyone else. I imagine a lot of the single 30 somethings have skipped on ideal men in their past based solely off their friends nitpicking them during a gossip session.

If you are going to find a much younger woman I'd look very closely at the company she keeps. Because its likely that "he's way too old" is going to be one of the things her friends would use to keep her single if you are looking to marry someone younger.

Even then you have to account for the family, particularly if you are looking for someone "trad" is her dad going to have a problem with the age gap? Even if her family is conservative and Christian etc it doesn't guarantee they would give their daughter away to someone much older. The prejudice against age gaps might be less among that demographic but it still likely exists.
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Agree, I'm not in the dating market as I've been married for ages now but I do know that women can't handle friends unless it's through church. The amount of bitching/jealousy that happens in their "meet ups" is unreal, always bad news one way or another.

They literally play husbands out against each other.
 
I think there's a difference between looking for a casual thing and someone to seriously settle down with who is chaste, without baggage, conservative.

The former is hard in the modern world but doable with a combination of improving your looks and then meeting a lot of people.

The latter though? That's been hard for probably 20 years if not more.

One thing to consider is why would a young, chaste and God fearing woman select you out of all the other men out there? Because you make more money than the competition? Really? I thought you said you are putting this woman's sense of virtue as a primary trait but she's apparently supposed to dismiss other men because you made a ton of money in your home country?

I think the goal for the latter is to try to be the ideal you seek and then also meet a lot of women.

What I read often on here is this kind of red pill mindset that was from the past era of game but just applied to trying to meet a beautiful traditional housewife. I don't think it's entirely congruent and perhaps a different set of tools are needed since the vast majority of men who taught or followed such methods did not end up with such a woman.
 
Tippy said:
What I read often on here is this kind of red pill mindset that was from the past era of game but just applied to trying to meet a beautiful traditional housewife. I don't think it's entirely congruent and perhaps a different set of tools are needed since the vast majority of men who taught or followed such methods did not end up with such a woman.
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Yes, the mindset has to be "I can only be with one woman and if I'm a good enough man over a long enough period of time God will provide for me." But you must be willing to accept that it is possible that God wants you to be alone (for whatever reason), and live your life accordingly. Instead of lusting after women and chasing them and thinking about them and preparing your life for them (stacking cash, moving to a country with "better" women, etc.) one should focus on bettering oneself to please God, not women. Building your life to attract women is the very definition of simping.

The desire for wide age gaps is a remnant dream of the PUA days and one in which I myself am currently struggling to let go of. Recently I have had a beautiful young woman 30 years my junior show interest in me and instead of using old game techniques to attract her I am friend zoning her in an attempt to push her away. It's what I call The God Test. If God wants me be to be with this woman then nothing I say or do will be able to stop His will from being done. In the interim, I am being congruent in terms of my religious beliefs and current lifestyle choices while maintaining my celibate monk mode frame. This has given me an incredible sense of freedom and joy and God is rewarding my committment to Him with one miracle after another simply because I am focused on Him and not this beautiful young woman that satan may or may not be dangling in front of me. Again, I can only be with one woman and in order to be with this one woman I must let go of all women. This is easier said than done. Please pray for me.
 
PurpleUrkel said:
Yes, the mindset has to be "I can only be with one woman and if I'm a good enough man over a long enough period of time God will provide for me." But you must be willing to accept that it is possible that God wants you to be alone (for whatever reason), and live your life accordingly. Instead of lusting after women and chasing them and thinking about them and preparing your life for them (stacking cash, moving to a country with "better" women, etc.) one should focus on bettering oneself to please God, not women. Building your life to attract women is the very definition of simping.

The desire for wide age gaps is a remnant dream of the PUA days and one in which I myself am currently struggling to let go of. Recently I have had a beautiful young woman 30 years my junior show interest in me and instead of using old game techniques to attract her I am friend zoning her in an attempt to push her away. It's what I call The God Test. If God wants me be to be with this woman then nothing I say or do will be able to stop His will from being done. In the interim, I am being congruent in terms of my religious beliefs and current lifestyle choices while maintaining my celibate monk mode frame. This has given me an incredible sense of freedom and joy and God is rewarding my committment to Him with one miracle after another simply because I am focused on Him and not this beautiful young woman that satan may or may not be dangling in front of me. Again, I can only be with one woman and in order to be with this one woman I must let go of all women. This is easier said than done. Please pray for me.
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I do think its good to not be too invested in outcome, but also God sometimes puts hot iron in front of us and leaves it to us to strike. Presumably if you wanted to you could drive this girl away irrespective of God's will, if you decided to shout abuse at her or something (not saying you would lol, but to illustrate a point), so its possible you could let her slip away through inaction, particularly if shes waiting for you to initiate something.

May God bless you brother.
 
Lawrence87 said:
I do think its good to not be too invested in outcome, but also God sometimes puts hot iron in front of us and leaves it to us to strike. Presumably if you wanted to you could drive this girl away irrespective of God's will, if you decided to shout abuse at her or something (not saying you would lol, but to illustrate a point), so its possible you could let her slip away through inaction, particularly if shes waiting for you to initiate something.
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Absolutely, great points. And in no way am I being passive with her, and I certainly don't want to drive her away. I keep principles of game in mind. However, the friend zone God Test for me is the female equivilant of a sh*t test (except with conscious noble intentions instead of subconscious hypergamous intentions). I simply want to see what her true intentions toward me are without investing a lot of time or energy (for all I know she could be trying to hook me up with her mother). I've committed my life to celibate monk mode, and the ball is in her court with regards to getting me to change course on that committment. This woman is very beautiful and she knows every guy wants her, now it is up to her to do some minor investigative homework into my psyche to see if I am an exception to that rule (I am not). However, it's either married with children or nothing for me. She'll find that out eventually. I'm in no hurry. And with God on my side I have very little fear of rejection, and to some extent I can take it or leave it.
 
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