Electric Vehicles Thread (Bikes, Cars, Trucks, etc.)
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I recently leased an electric car. The lease builds in all the electric car incentives, which makes the lease price very low. Also, with a lease I don't have to worry about the battery pack degrading or hurting resale value. I just turn it in after two years. It's a Nissan Ariya. Nissan has been in trouble lately, and I think they offered a fire-sale deal to try to move a lot of cars and generate some cash flow.
I got the lease for no money down and $197 a month. Also, I am driving this instead of a large SUV that gets 15 mpg. So, I'm saving nearly $200/month in gas. The net cost of this car is nearly zero for me, with the exception that my car insurance has gone up by adding a new vehicle to my collision coverage. The cost of electricity in the first month was trivial for the 900 miles I put on it. I still have my big SUV, so I still have all of the advantages of range and hauling capacity when I need it. However, I've hardly used it since I got this car.
It's a really nice car! Spacious, solid, luxurious, fast, sharp looking. I've driven a lot of rental cars when traveling for work, and this is much nicer than most of them. Of course, rental cars tend to have base trim and features, but still, this is nicer than most of the late model cars that I have driven.
I really like the power of the electric car. It accelerates very quickly, especially at low speeds. I can easily pull into traffic and be up to speed with the rest of the traffic almost instantly, and I can easily dart forward to get in position to merge to the next lane. When I first got it, I found myself enjoying the rush of stomping on the peddle, and before I knew it I was going 70 mph on a surface street!
On the negative side, it does have a fairly low range. They advertise 205 miles range, but I think running the heat in the winter knocks that down a lot. My range is only about 150 miles right now. Also, I'm only charging at 120 volts, which is very slow. I've been able to keep up by charging at home every night, but just barely. I will install a 240 outlet in my garage at some point. So far it has been enough for me with my daily driving.
I quickly started having the feeling they sometimes show in advertisements, of driving by gas stations and laughing because I don't need what they're selling any more. When I step on the accelerator to speed up real fast, it's nice and quiet. I don't have a big roar from a crude internal combustion engine. It does feel like electric cars are the future and gas cars are primitive. I'm still keeping my big gas powered SUV though.
I never intended to get an electric car, or even a new car, but when a coworker told me about this deal, I checked into it, and it was too good a deal to pass up. Now that I have the electric car, I have to say that I've become a fan.
Here's what it looks like:
I got the lease for no money down and $197 a month. Also, I am driving this instead of a large SUV that gets 15 mpg. So, I'm saving nearly $200/month in gas. The net cost of this car is nearly zero for me, with the exception that my car insurance has gone up by adding a new vehicle to my collision coverage. The cost of electricity in the first month was trivial for the 900 miles I put on it. I still have my big SUV, so I still have all of the advantages of range and hauling capacity when I need it. However, I've hardly used it since I got this car.
It's a really nice car! Spacious, solid, luxurious, fast, sharp looking. I've driven a lot of rental cars when traveling for work, and this is much nicer than most of them. Of course, rental cars tend to have base trim and features, but still, this is nicer than most of the late model cars that I have driven.
I really like the power of the electric car. It accelerates very quickly, especially at low speeds. I can easily pull into traffic and be up to speed with the rest of the traffic almost instantly, and I can easily dart forward to get in position to merge to the next lane. When I first got it, I found myself enjoying the rush of stomping on the peddle, and before I knew it I was going 70 mph on a surface street!
On the negative side, it does have a fairly low range. They advertise 205 miles range, but I think running the heat in the winter knocks that down a lot. My range is only about 150 miles right now. Also, I'm only charging at 120 volts, which is very slow. I've been able to keep up by charging at home every night, but just barely. I will install a 240 outlet in my garage at some point. So far it has been enough for me with my daily driving.
I quickly started having the feeling they sometimes show in advertisements, of driving by gas stations and laughing because I don't need what they're selling any more. When I step on the accelerator to speed up real fast, it's nice and quiet. I don't have a big roar from a crude internal combustion engine. It does feel like electric cars are the future and gas cars are primitive. I'm still keeping my big gas powered SUV though.
I never intended to get an electric car, or even a new car, but when a coworker told me about this deal, I checked into it, and it was too good a deal to pass up. Now that I have the electric car, I have to say that I've become a fan.
Here's what it looks like:
What is the endgame of promoting electric vehicles beyond their merits? There are many negatives associated with electric vehicles, such as extremely high replacement costs for batteries, a propensity to catch fire, slow charging times except with certain superchargers, low resale value, and so on.
In my country, electric vehicles are treated as the holy grail of transportation solutions. City buses are being rapidly replaced by EVs, all of which are Chinese-made, and thankfully none have caught fire yet. If you buy electric cars and motorcycles, you are entitled to tax breaks, making the purchase price lower. Over time, I have seen more and more EVs being used both personally and for fleets.
Here, Teslas are very rare, while Toyota EVs and Hyundai Ioniqs are more common. However, the vehicles that proliferate are Chinese brands like Wuling and BYD, as they are cheaper and designed for daily use.
Toyota Innova have become one of the casualties of electrification. Although Innova were traditionally offered in both gasoline and diesel engine variants, the newest model, Innova Zenix, is available only in gasoline and hybrid variants without diesel, as it is claimed that the hybrid is as efficient as the diesel.
As a fan of diesel engines myself, I dislike that diesels are becoming less popular and will likely be harder to obtain in the future. My family has owned an Isuzu diesel car since 1997 (28 years), and the engine is still going strong. Can electric cars say the same after more than 20 years?
Why is research in favor of renewable and clean diesels no longer being pursued? Rudolf Diesel originally envisioned his engines to be efficient and capable of running on different types of fuels. Perhaps the electric lobbyists have won?
In my country, electric vehicles are treated as the holy grail of transportation solutions. City buses are being rapidly replaced by EVs, all of which are Chinese-made, and thankfully none have caught fire yet. If you buy electric cars and motorcycles, you are entitled to tax breaks, making the purchase price lower. Over time, I have seen more and more EVs being used both personally and for fleets.
Here, Teslas are very rare, while Toyota EVs and Hyundai Ioniqs are more common. However, the vehicles that proliferate are Chinese brands like Wuling and BYD, as they are cheaper and designed for daily use.
Toyota Innova have become one of the casualties of electrification. Although Innova were traditionally offered in both gasoline and diesel engine variants, the newest model, Innova Zenix, is available only in gasoline and hybrid variants without diesel, as it is claimed that the hybrid is as efficient as the diesel.
As a fan of diesel engines myself, I dislike that diesels are becoming less popular and will likely be harder to obtain in the future. My family has owned an Isuzu diesel car since 1997 (28 years), and the engine is still going strong. Can electric cars say the same after more than 20 years?
Why is research in favor of renewable and clean diesels no longer being pursued? Rudolf Diesel originally envisioned his engines to be efficient and capable of running on different types of fuels. Perhaps the electric lobbyists have won?