Simeon Strangelight's vitamin C advice

RedLagoon

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I recently found Simeon's vit c advice which I printed off during the coof and since the old forum is gone I scanned them in to share them with you whoever's interested. They're numbered correctly I just don't know how to organize them on this format.

Amendment; I have used his advice to great effect even though we all now know the coof was just the flu rebranded but this information is still very much valid in a general term dealing with viruses infections injuries etc. I also take NAC but unfortunately did not print that one off (he had one about that too).

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I don't have time to read all of that but I do about 1000mg of vit C per day along with some other stuff for joints and cod liver oil. These old joints have been skiing for too long.

I rarely get sick. Vit C that the body doesn't need just gets pissed out
 
I don't have time to read all of that but I do about 1000mg of vit C per day along with some other stuff for joints and cod liver oil. These old joints have been skiing for too long.

I rarely get sick. Vit C that the body doesn't need just gets pissed out

It's here for the ones who asked for it as it's helped a lot op people and I agree with you on the cod liver oil, just make sure it's not from farmed fish.

To give an example; when I feel a flu coming I mega-dose on vit C and it seems to end the sickness within a few hours, same for my children but I'm obviously not giving health advice here, it's all just anecdotal.
 
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It takes about 3000mg of Vitamin C powder (buffered if you can find it) to balance out the normal oxidative stress our cells experience daily from modified and chemically-enhanced food, heavy-metal poisoned water, frankenskies, overaccumulations of electrical charges, and radiation from EMFs and Wi-Fi. When you get "sick" your body is just showing symptoms of over-toxicity thus anything to help speed up this detoxification process, which is completely natural and built in us by God, is a helpful agent. A pyramiding technique with Vitamin C during these days works very well. 15,000mg or 15 grams, will induce diarrhea but also chelation (binding to toxic heavy metal particulates in the blood). No more than 2-3 days, then taper to 10,000mg for two days, then to 5,000 until symptoms dissipate.

Another option is liposomal Vitamin C. It is safe for most as it is water soluble and you excrete it out through urine. However, because Vitamin C mobilizes iron and it's uptake, can be dangerous for those who have Haemochromatosis or Iron Overload, a common Genetic Illness especially in Celts, especially after Venesection when high doses used to be used to mobilize iron, until it was found it was causing Heart Attacks as Iron can stop the heart. Many west-coast Celtic people have this condition.

Here is a video of author of "Curing the Incurable" and Doctor, Thomas Levy, explaining the best use of Liposomal Vitamin C for those who want a high-school biology breakdown:

"Why Liposomal Vitamin C works so well"
 
I recently found Simeon's vit c advice which I printed off during the coof and since the old forum is gone I scanned them in to share them with you whoever's interested. They're numbered correctly I just don't know how to organize them on this format.

Amendment; I have used his advice to great effect even though we all now know the coof was just the flu rebranded but this information is still very much valid in a general term dealing with viruses infections injuries etc. I also take NAC but unfortunately did not print that one off (he had one about that too).
Thank you for this!

I remembered reading Simeon's thread on megadosing vitamin c, but unfortunately in my country the only available pure powder vitamin c is either manufactured in China or supposed to be used in skin lightening products.

So since reading his thread until now, every time I get sick or feeling under the weather I just upped my vitamin c intake using Redoxon or similar products. Not optimal since without access to pure vitamin c, best I can manage is around 2.000-3.000mg per day.
 
Don't supplement vitamin C chronically. If we needed high levels of vit C to be healthy then our bodies would produce it naturally. You'll risk slowly poisoning yourself that way. Only use it short term when you have a cold etc, and stop after that. Very high dose vit C can be useful in cancer treatment, but is also cytotoxic, so you have to do it with doctor supervision and IV. I don't think you can get to those levels with pills and if you could it would be dangerous! You'll probably only get stomach issues.
 
Don't supplement vitamin C chronically. If we needed high levels of vit C to be healthy then our bodies would produce it naturally. You'll risk slowly poisoning yourself that way. Only use it short term when you have a cold etc, and stop after that. Very high dose vit C can be useful in cancer treatment, but is also cytotoxic, so you have to do it with doctor supervision and IV. I don't think you can get to those levels with pills and if you could it would be dangerous! You'll probably only get stomach issues.

We're not talking pills here bro, you may want to read what I uploaded.

I agree on not supplementing vit C chronically which isn't something me or mr Stangelight is suggesting.
 
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What about just eating oranges and other citrus?

Grapefruit, mandarin, tangerine etc
It does not work because like Simeon said, an orange will contain roughly 80mg of vitamin c per fruit. You will have to drink literally gallons of orange.

The way vitamin c megadosing works, you need a minimum of 2.000-10.000mg of vitamin c per day for maintenance. But if you are sick you need around 15.000-50.000mg. Simeon sometimes take 75.000mg during severe colds.

You literally need pure powder or intravenous vitamin c to megadose. Even Redoxon and similar supplements only contains 1.000mg per tablets.
 
Its interesting to speculate about why humans (and certain other animals) lost the ability to produce vitamin C.

I read some interesting answers on Quora:


Why don’t humans synthesize vitamin C? What is the evolutionary advantage?

I’m gonna play the devil’s advocate here and say that there might have been a reason why this gene was turned into a pseudo-gene.

The answer: the pseudo-genomorphosis (yes, I just made that up; so what, sue me) of the urate oxidase gene.

Urate oxidase is a gene that allows uric acid to be converted into 5-Hydroxyisourate, which is then transformed into allantoin and excreted through the renal system. And because all higher primates, including humans, lack a functional copy of this gene, we have an elevated (actually, close to saturation) rate of uric acid compared to every other uric acid-producing organism on Earth (hell, even bacteria have this gene).

And as it turns out, uric acid is a potent antioxidant, just like ascorbic acid (vitamin C), but unlike ascorbic acid, it doesn’t require energy to be made (since it’s a waste product). This may have been why apes live longer (less oxidative stress) than other animals with similar weight.

However, ascorbic acid isn’t only used as an antioxidant, which is why we still need some amount in our diets. However, in response to that we also developed an ascorbic acid recycling system in our red blood cells, that can re-reduce oxidized ascorbic acid back into its original form. This means that our daily intake of vitamin C only has to be around 20 mg minimum (optimally 70–100 mg), while other species of similar weight produce more than 10,000 mg a day.

Good this is, this molecule is nearly ubiquitous in nature: most plants and animals produce their own vitamin C, and since we do consume most plants and animals, albeit raw; ascorbic acid is denatured by heat and light. This isn't a problem for most plants; but for animals… that would mean raw liver is on the menu.

Here is another Quora answer:

The loss of the ability to synthesize Vitamin C in humans is due to a mutation in the gene encoding the enzyme L-gulonolactone oxidase, which is necessary for Vitamin C synthesis. This mutation occurred approximately 40-25 million years ago in our primate ancestors. The evolutionary advantage of this loss is not entirely clear, but some hypotheses suggest that it may be related to dietary changes and the availability of Vitamin C-rich foods in the environment at the time. It's also been proposed that the loss of Vitamin C synthesis may have been a trade-off for other evolutionary advantages, such as energy conservation or protection against oxidative stress. However, the exact reason for this loss and its evolutionary advantage is still a topic of scientific debate.

Evidence suggests that humans are meant to eat a certain amount of fruit in their diet (I'm looking at the carnivore diet guys). Sure you can get by on 20mg of vitamin C (or perhaps less if you are on carnivore diet) but its suboptimal for your health.
 
We're not talking pills here bro, you may want to read what I uploaded.

I agree on not supplementing vit C chronically which isn't something me or mr Stangelight is suggesting.

It doesn't matter really. You need medical supervision if you want to achieve very high concentrations of vit C. And there's very limited reasons for doing that, mainly cancer and possibly very serious viral infections. But it's dangerous unless medically supervised as I said.

Edit; Ok, you make me read all that stuff and it turns out to be pills as I said after all, come on man! Oral is oral. (no pun intended)
 
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It doesn't matter really. You need medical supervision if you want to achieve very high concentrations of vit C. And there's very limited reasons for doing that, mainly cancer and possibly very serious viral infections. But it's dangerous unless medically supervised as I said.

Edit; Ok, you make me read all that stuff and it turns out to be pills as I said after all, come on man! Oral is oral. (no pun intended)

I didn't make you do anything, you're your own agent.

We're also not talking about pills here.
 
The loss of the ability to synthesize Vitamin C in humans is due to a mutation in the gene encoding the enzyme L-gulonolactone oxidase, which is necessary for Vitamin C synthesis. This mutation occurred approximately 40-25 million years ago in our primate ancestors. The evolutionary advantage of this loss is not entirely clear, but some hypotheses suggest that it may be related to dietary changes and the availability of Vitamin C-rich foods in the environment at the time. It's also been proposed that the loss of Vitamin C synthesis may have been a trade-off for other evolutionary advantages, such as energy conservation or protection against oxidative stress. However, the exact reason for this loss and its evolutionary advantage is still a topic of scientific debate.
Bogus answer because as we know evolution and old earth is bogus.
 
Bogus answer because as we know evolution and old earth is bogus.

No matter what there still is no reason to supplement vitamin C to improve general health. Evolution or creation the conclusion is the same, if we needed the amounts of vit C for ideal health found in supplements we would either produce it endogenously or find it in normal human foods. (which we do oc, but in much lower amounts) So chronic supplementation is out the window! And as I stated above, high dose can only be achieved with IV and under medical supervision.
 
Evidence suggests that humans are meant to eat a certain amount of fruit in their diet (I'm looking at the carnivore diet guys). Sure you can get by on 20mg of vitamin C (or perhaps less if you are on carnivore diet) but its suboptimal for your health.
Every single carnivore on the internet who espoused regular organ meat consumption lasted two, three years tops before they called it quits.

The carnivores that are left eat fat and muscle meat at varying stages of done-ness but usually medium rare, have been doing so for at least five years at this point and appear to be in good health.

Uncooked muscle meat has vitamin C in it, so I would wager that an all meat dieter needs less vitamin C in general and as a result gets enough from muscle meat.
 
Every single carnivore on the internet who espoused regular organ meat consumption lasted two, three years tops before they called it quits.

The carnivores that are left eat fat and muscle meat at varying stages of done-ness but usually medium rare, have been doing so for at least five years at this point and appear to be in good health.

Uncooked muscle meat has vitamin C in it, so I would wager that an all meat dieter needs less vitamin C in general and as a result gets enough from muscle meat.
Enough vitamin C for what? Enough to avoid Scurvy or other acute diseases yes but not enough for an optimally functioning immune system. Besides who enjoys eating uncooked meat, it tastes awful.
 
Enough vitamin C for what? Enough to avoid Scurvy or other acute diseases yes but not enough for an optimally functioning immune system. Besides who enjoys eating uncooked meat, it tastes awful.

On carnivore, your sense of taste and smell changes. Blue rare anything tasted great. I quit when beef went up to 10 dollars a lb during covid. Then I got into bread baking and I have no desire to stop eating bread.

I do not recommend or endorse the carnivore diet as a lifelong diet, but I had fun with it for 8 months. Some folks with autoimmune diseases have used it with good results. My ragweed allergy completely disappeared after my stint on carnivore.

As far as scurvy and dental health during carnivore, I have never developed a cavity during or since and I make no special effort to brush my teeth several times a day, eat fruits and vegetables, drink tons of water, consume fiber, or really any of the other things that the FDA would approve of. I definitely consume more beef and butter since my foray into the all meat diet, which is pretty typical of anyone who ever did a diet like that, according to Steffanson in his book The Fat of the Land.

I don't know anything about immune systems, but I have heard of this vitamin C megadosing before, my sister says she does that for her kids so they recover from colds and flus faster. How do you test your immune system for optimal function? I wouldn't even know where to start.
 
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