Iran-Israeli Conflict Thread

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

IRAN HAS 2 OPTIONS LEFT IN THIS WAR. BOTH ARE CATASTROPHIC.

Something shifted in the last few hours. Most people won't realize until it's too late.

Trump's team just leaked their peace terms to Axios.

After 3 weeks of war, Iran is now boxed into 2 choices. And every single one is a nightmare:

OPTION 1: ACCEPT THE DEAL
→ Freeze the entire missile program for 5 years
→ Reopen the Strait of Hormuz — give up the only economic weapon left
→ Promise the war won't resume — with no enforcement mechanism
→ In year 6, America has recovered, Iran has no missiles, no leverage
→ Iran becomes permanently militarily inferior in its own neighborhood
→ New Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei's legacy = surrendered what his father built

OPTION 2: REJECT THE DEAL
→ War continues for weeks or months more
→ CENTCOM already hit 8,000+ targets — 130 ships — largest navy wipeout since WWII
→ Iran's military capabilities degrade further every week
→ 40,000 sailors remain stranded, global oil crisis deepens
→ 22 countries now aligned against Iran on Hormuz — pressure intensifies daily
→ Iran fires back — already hitting Diego Garcia, nuclear facility towns — but for how long?

Let that sink in.

There is no Option 3. There is no clean exit. There is no "we resist and survive intact."

The media is showing you "peace talks starting."

They're NOT showing you that every path forward for Iran leads to a worse Iran.

Here's the most devastating question nobody is asking:

Six days ago, Iran's FM Araghchi said on CBS: "We NEVER asked for a ceasefire or negotiation."

Six days ago, Trump REJECTED ceasefire talks from Middle Eastern allies.

Now suddenly there are "peace terms" being gamed out by Kushner and Witkoff.

What changed in 6 days that makes both sides now willing to talk?

This is the most dangerous negotiation Iran has faced since the JCPOA.

Bookmark this. Come back in 5 days.

Complete rubbish.

There is no scenario for the US to hurt Iran more than the US is hurt by those actions in the aggregate, which is why Trump, and everyone else, was against this option for so long.

This war only benefits Israel's chaos strategy for the Middle East and the West, which also harms a lot of little Jews, but the Big Jews who call the shots could not care less.

 

[RedLagoon]

The oil crisis is a farce, all done to further the agenda "you will own nothing and be happy". It's not Iran that's dragging this on, our overlords want the whole world to completely collapse so they can "build it back better". Convid was the trial and the people failed miserably now this "war" is the exercise.

 

[Pravoslavac]

The oil crisis is a farce, all done to further the agenda "you will own nothing and be happy". It's not Iran that's dragging this on, our overlords want the whole world to completely collapse so they can "build it back better". Convid was the trial and the people failed miserably now this "war" is the exercise.

It certainly fits the agenda, whether Iran is a voluntary party or not is meaningless.

 

[magoo]

Wasnt opening the strait a simple military maneuver dufus?

 

[RedLagoon]

It certainly fits the agenda, whether Iran is a voluntary party or not is meaningless.

Here in Kangaroo land we're at $3 a liter for diesel while the whole country runs on it but they misteriously won't fire up our refineries when we have more oil reserves any nation could wish for...

$3 a liter is unaffordable for most in our countryside where the closest martial arts lessons are 80km away for example or where all the trains and road trains run on diesel.

Who had the most insane lockdowns and has the highest poke rates? Paterns repeating.

 

[magoo]

Iranians could´ve given some evacuation notice for women and children to leave. Of course Israelis are inhuman coackroaches. But children are innocent. Wether jewish or martians. Jews are so f stupid. Centuries and centuries of jewish retardness.

 

[LaAguilaNegra]

IRAN HAS 2 OPTIONS LEFT IN THIS WAR. BOTH ARE CATASTROPHIC.

Something shifted in the last few hours. Most people won't realize until it's too late.

Trump's team just leaked their peace terms to Axios.

After 3 weeks of war, Iran is now boxed into 2 choices. And every single one is a nightmare:

OPTION 1: ACCEPT THE DEAL
→ Freeze the entire missile program for 5 years
→ Reopen the Strait of Hormuz — give up the only economic weapon left
→ Promise the war won't resume — with no enforcement mechanism
→ In year 6, America has recovered, Iran has no missiles, no leverage
→ Iran becomes permanently militarily inferior in its own neighborhood
→ New Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei's legacy = surrendered what his father built

OPTION 2: REJECT THE DEAL
→ War continues for weeks or months more
→ CENTCOM already hit 8,000+ targets — 130 ships — largest navy wipeout since WWII
→ Iran's military capabilities degrade further every week
→ 40,000 sailors remain stranded, global oil crisis deepens
→ 22 countries now aligned against Iran on Hormuz — pressure intensifies daily
→ Iran fires back — already hitting Diego Garcia, nuclear facility towns — but for how long?

Let that sink in.

There is no Option 3. There is no clean exit. There is no "we resist and survive intact."

The media is showing you "peace talks starting."

They're NOT showing you that every path forward for Iran leads to a worse Iran.

Here's the most devastating question nobody is asking:

Six days ago, Iran's FM Araghchi said on CBS: "We NEVER asked for a ceasefire or negotiation."

Six days ago, Trump REJECTED ceasefire talks from Middle Eastern allies.

Now suddenly there are "peace terms" being gamed out by Kushner and Witkoff.

What changed in 6 days that makes both sides now willing to talk?

This is the most dangerous negotiation Iran has faced since the JCPOA.

Bookmark this. Come back in 5 days.

Patience is indeed running out. The Trump Administration feels that the Iranians are playing dirty and the hammer is about to come down. Granted, Tehran has been going full total war, have kept pace with the US on the escalation ladder and that IDGAF attitude is a big shift from its previous reconciliatory positions. Back against the wall and nowhere else to go and all that.

Having said that holding the world economy hostage - and intentionally (and unsuccessfully) attempting to undermine DC's alliance system in Europe, Asia and the Gulf has not gone down well with DC. The US' current options are either ramming open the Strait through military means thereby jeopardizing US lives, blocking maritime traffic altogether thereby involving China, start targeting Iranian civilian infrastructure to add levers of pressure, or just let it simmer and watch countries move towards DC (or Tehran) as matters become more urgent.

Seems like option 3 is for now the preferred option. Judging by Tehran continuous attempts to target Gulf energy, oil and water infrastructure it's not even an escalation but returning the favor. With the big difference that the US doesn't miss and has about 1000 times the firepower.

 

[Get2choppaaa]

Complete rubbish.

There is no scenario for the US to hurt Iran more than the US is hurt by those actions in the aggregate, which is why Trump, and everyone else, was against this option for so long.

This war only benefits Israel's chaos strategy for the Middle East and the West, which also harms a lot of little Jews, but the Big Jews who call the shots could not care less.

Nah man... If we destroy their infrastructure and move into total war , which will happen ... Decades of damage will be done to Iran.

We will just be slightly inconvenienced.

Again the US is THE Empire and still decades ahead of a replacement despite the gesticulations here on the thread.

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

Nah man... If we destroy their infrastructure and move into total war , which will happen ... Decades of damage will be done to Iran.

We will just be slightly inconvenienced.

A lot of risk for no reward.

 

[Get2choppaaa]

A lot of risk for no reward.

Not sure any more risk that we have already bought in to.

I think it will play out that either they play ball or
"Carthago delenda est " is next scenario.

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

Not sure any more risk that we have already bought in to.

I think it will play out that either they play ball or
"Carthago delenda est " is next scenario.

TACO is not going to salt the earth, lol.

Sounds like a variation on sunk cost fallacy, call it temporal premise shifting.

What was the risk vs. reward for bombing Iran on Feb. 27?

 

[FrostBITE]

 

[GoodShepherd]

Complete rubbish.

There is no scenario for the US to hurt Iran more than the US is hurt by those actions in the aggregate, which is why Trump, and everyone else, was against this option for so long.

This war only benefits Israel's chaos strategy for the Middle East and the West, which also harms a lot of little Jews, but the Big Jews who call the shots could not care less.

Im not supporting or justifying the war but US can still hurt Iran more ofcoarse, they could possibly get nuked.

Iran has been hurt far more they have directly been attacked and their leaders killed and some infrastructure destroyed and business through the straight has just about stopped so they losing economically, sure US also getting hurt but in an indirect way or hurt at their far away bases, not here at home, we dont have a foreign enemy surrounding us with missiles and bases assasinating people here at the moment.

Yes fuel prices have gone up but theres no shortages, I havent even really noticed too many people talking about the war here or even concerned yet? Lets see what happens.

And yes its also possible that Iran could drop a nuke too if they have any

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

Im not supporting or justifying the war but US can still hurt Iran more ofcoarse, they could possibly get nuked.

Iran has been hurt far more they have directly been attacked and their leaders killed and some infrastructure destroyed and business through the straight has just about stopped so they losing economically, sure US also getting hurt but in an indirect way or hurt at their far away bases, not here at home, we dont have a foreign enemy surrounding us with missiles and bases assasinating people here at the moment.

Yes fuel prices have gone up but theres no shortages, I havent even really noticed too many people talking about the war here or even concerned yet? Lets see what happens.

And yes its also possible that Iran could drop a nuke too if they have any

If Iran was nuked, I think the political consequences for Trump and right-wingers would be catastrophic.

 

[Get2choppaaa]

TACO is not going to salt the earth, lol.

Sounds like a variation on sunk cost fallacy, call it temporal premise shifting.

What was the risk vs. reward for bombing Iran on Feb. 27?

Again,I'm not in favor of the war... But

The argument is that the US must restructure the arrangement the Iranian government and their proxies have with the US and our allies (Israel+ Sunni states) to ensure we are more strongly positioned in our oil trade and against China.

We've also been in a proxy war against these people for 50 years (beruit bombing by a Hezbollah affiliate)

So it's been a long time coming in the eyes of The US Empire... And this was the time to act.

Again I don't necessarily believe this, but that's that is the Washington big blue arrow mindset.

If you talk to any one in Washington or highly connected in Defense Contacting, you'll hear this.

 

[GoodShepherd]

If Iran was nuked, I think the political consequences for Trump and right-wingers would be catastrophic.

A nuke was once used on Japan during a war it wont be the first time. If Iran has any nukes they could also potentially use one against Israel or US bases, not sure about mainland USA, maybe?

There are some orthodox prophesies from saints that say something along the lines of nuclear bombs being used when world war 3 happens and a specific mention of one being detonated on US soil, this is another topic but if the nations involved in this war have nukes then the possibility of nukes being used isnt off the table.

 

[PurpleUrkel]

Is Trump sending Barron to the front lines (asking for a friend)? Or are bone spurs hereditary?

 

[analyst_green]

Is Trump sending Barron to the front lines (asking for a friend)? Or are bone spurs hereditary?

This should honestly be in the constitution. If the president starts an offensive war, all his sons must be on the front lines. Likewise with any congressman voting for it.

If every country enforces this rule, I guarantee you peace for centuries.

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

Again,I'm not in favor of the war... But

The argument is that the US must restructure the arrangement the Iranian government and their proxies have with the US and our allies (Israel+ Sunni states) to ensure we are more strongly positioned in our oil trade and against China.

We've also been in a proxy war against these people for 50 years (beruit bombing by a Hezbollah affiliate)

So it's been a long time coming in the eyes of The US Empire... And this was the time to act.

Again I don't necessarily believe this, but that's that is the Washington big blue arrow mindset.

If you talk to any one in Washington or highly connected in Defense Contacting, you'll hear this.

Thanks, like you said that's fairly well known, but it just doesn't make any sense to me.

20 years of costly and fruitless war in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc., for 9/11 and yet we're still going to attempt to avenge 240 Marines killed in Beirut (one from my high school...we dedicated a sapling to his memory) 41 years ago by punishing Iran? That's worth plunging the world economy and supply chain into chaos?

That's some tip-top normie propaganda, but now there's a whole class of Internet spergs and alt-media influencers who also don't buy it.

I can't wait for Euro fags to pay Iran protection money to keep Greenland safe from Cheeto Hitler TACO.

Clown world, do your thang!

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

This should honestly be in the constitution. If the president starts an offensive war, all his sons must be on the front lines. Likewise with any congressman voting for it.

If every country enforces this rule, I guarantee you peace for centuries.

It wasn't exactly sons of kings, but England lost a lot of elites in the trenches of WW1. There used to be some true believers.