Andrew Wilson

[Northumber]

I was almost divorced last year and against my own will, purple urkel knows some of the details, that God it didnt happen, but if it did and some day I got my priests blessing to remarry and I found someone who had a similar life to mine and we had a Christian marriage in the church would that not disqualify me from ever speaking or debating?

I wouldn't say it's a hard rule. I've thought about this type of thing. Some past things I've done are pretty bad and I wouldn't feel right publicly speaking or debating on certain topics. Something about it seems off. Only in person if there is interest from whomever I'm speaking to.

 

[GoodShepherd]

I wouldn't say it's a hard rule. I've thought about this type of thing. Some past things I've done are pretty bad and I wouldn't feel right publicly speaking or debating on certain topics. Something about it seems off. Only in person if there is interest from whomever I'm speaking to.

We might hold those moral standards as Christians but the people Andrew is debating dont hold those views, not only are they not repenting of their sins they dont even recognize it as a sin in the first place and are promoting their sin on society as "normal" and this is a kind of trap, a way for these people to try and silence their opponents by trying to shame them with a morality that they themselves dont believe in.

 

[RedLagoon]

You've never sworn like that? I mean you're a fellow vet ... Fbombs are our every 3rd word when making a point.

The guy is vulgar sure. But when a lesbian atheist nihilist attacks your family, your dead kid, and your wife.... You're gonna lose your temper.

Hell I remember making a comment about Australia to you and you attacked me and insuaded things about my old lady...which has since been deleted and apologized for .... So like I said ....no clutching pearls and no projection sir.

I'd have you and your old lady and children over any time of the week, not sure what insult regarding your wife you're referring to as an insult to Australia in one way or another is something I wouldn't be bothered about.

Sure we used to swear in the army etc but the guy swearing like that in a public space (which the internet is) isn't a good look.

 

[GodfatherPartTwo]

Thats his style he talks that way, my Godfather swears and smokes more than this guy every day, we all know the way left wing people debate is not to tackle the question at hand but to attack character and make judgements instead of directly confronting the issue at hand, this guy does this for a living its his job, not many people would handle doing this, Andrew usually says he matches energy thats his way of debating to bring the conversation under control, if people are respectful and talk nicely then he matches them, if the attack his family or be disrespectful then he matches their energy to de-escilate the situation.

The reason he came out bad in that exchange is because was the first to use ad hom: "you're too f****** stupid to understand my arguments." As soon as he got taken down by the dyke, all his "logical arguments" went out the window. There was no "character assassination" on the wife, it was a 1 for 1 slug match where he came out the loser for pretending to be something he's not. I'm still amazed people don't have the discernment to see through these people. No one realizes that the podcast's format is designed to be as sensationalistic as possible?

 

[GoodShepherd]

The reason he came out bad in that exchange is because was the first to use ad hom: "you're too f****** stupid to understand my arguments." As soon as he got taken down by the dyke, all his "logical arguments" went out the window. There was no "character assassination" on the wife, it was a 1 for 1 slug match where he came out the loser for pretending to be something he's not. I'm still amazed people don't have the discernment to see through these people. No one realizes that the podcast's format is designed to be as sensationalistic as possible?

Its kind of is an insult to use the words "3 baby dadies" to his wife, it gives the impression that shes a slut when that wasnt the case, he swears on just about every single debate he has, even the one I shared on here where it was very calm and not much arguing, many f-words used.

 

[GodfatherPartTwo]

Its kind of is an insult to use the words "3 baby dadies" to his wife, it gives the impression that shes a slut when that wasnt the case, he swears on just about every single debate he has, even the one I shared on here where it was very calm and not much arguing, many f-words used.

My complaint is not that he's uncouth. My complaint is that they're transparent grifters. Pointing out that she has 3 baby daddies is definitely an insult, so is saying you're too stupid to understand my arguments. He and his wife deliberately provoke people but then act like they're precious and above the fray when people poke back. Wash, rinse, repeat. Again, the goal is to be as sensationalistic as possible, farm attention in the attention economy. None of the "well she wrote a feminism bad book" means anything. They don't move the needle in anyway, they just play to their griftee fanbase.

 

[Get2choppaaa]

My complaint is not that he's uncouth. My complaint is that they're transparent grifters. Pointing out that she has 3 baby daddies is definitely an insult, so is saying you're too stupid to understand my arguments. He and his wife deliberately provoke people but then act like they're precious and above the fray when people poke back. Wash, rinse, repeat. Again, the goal is to be as sensationalistic as possible, farm attention in the attention economy. None of the "well she wrote a feminism bad book" means anything. They don't move the needle in anyway, they just play to their griftee fanbase.

Id bet a steak dinner you didn't watch the whole podcast as to why he called her stupid. Just the clip right?

I bet youre also not a regular watcher of The Crucible, Whatever Podcast, or his appearances with any other media.

Since they have both been on Joe Rogan, Piers Morgan, he's been on PBD, and countless other media appearances, developed a large fan base that promotes marriage, church attendance, and non degenerate values, Id say they are moving the needle in the right way.

Hes called only fans girls prostitutes.

Hes called men and women that are degenerates degenerate.




Those are factual statements about the people he's arguing with... And often they are arguing so far beyond their depth and they do infact demonstrate themselves to be either stupid (incapable of understanding) or ignorant (uneducated on the topic) and always arrogant.

It's funny because this is the sort of person you'd actually agree with on 98 of 100 topics but you call him a grift because you don't like his words in one interview with a lesbian disgusting heretical witch?

More pearl clutching. The ditch licker woman told him it would have been better if his wife had Aborted her kids.

I know that's a sacred cow for you (and for me too) so he's a grifter still for attacking this trollop?

 

[GodfatherPartTwo]

Id bet a steak dinner you didn't watch the whole podcast as to why he called her stupid. Just the clip right?

I bet youre also not a regular watcher of The Crucible, Whatever Podcast, or his appearances with any other media.

I would take that bet. I've been craving a NY Strip. I've watched enough of crucible and whatever to know I'm not a fan.

It's funny because this is the sort of person you'd actually agree with on 98 of 100 topics but you call him a grift because you don't like his words in one interview with a lesbian disgusting heretical witch?

More pearl clutching. The ditch licker woman told him it would have been better if his wife had Aborted her kids.

I know that's a sacred cow for you (and for me too) so he's a grifter still for attacking this trollop?

We've already covered this in the currently reading thread. I have no problem with him calling out the disgusting dyke who is pro-abortion. I do have a problem with him and his wife clutching their pearls when anyone dares to point out that they're not the best people to be playing holier than thou. I'm also not a fan of the faux-outrage grifting cycle that they use to generate buzz around their channel. Their fanbase acts like these are the only people in the world who speak against abortion and feminism. They're not, far from it. The appeal of their channel is the constant tar-and-feathering of the "other." The only needle that's moved is their clicks count.

 

[Get2choppaaa]

I would take that bet. I've been craving a NY Strip. I've watched enough of crucible and whatever to know I'm not a fan.

Ha fair

We've already covered this in the currently reading thread. I have no problem with him calling out the disgusting dyke who is pro-abortion. I do have a problem with him and his wife clutching their pearls when anyone dares to point out that they're not the best people to be playing holier than thou. I'm also not a fan of the faux-outrage grifting cycle that they use to generate buzz around their channel. Their fanbase acts like these are the only people in the world who speak against abortion and feminism. They're not, far from it. The appeal of their channel is the constant tar-and-feathering of the "other."

I hardly think she clutches her pearls. Ive never seen them to pretend that they are the shining example of perfect behavior. Quite the opposite... They have highlighted how their past lives are but perfect. But the people attacking them are always doing so in bad faith and never because they are actually winning the argument.

Her joe Rogan interview pretty much covered all of that. And they've had other videos explaining the circumstances etc etc.

It's a major detraction from the argument at hand and frankly shows to me your own judgemental attitude.

Of course they are not the only people pointing this out. They, namely Andrew, just happens to be one of the more widely popular individuals connecting the dots with young men on this.

At some level all people in this space are "grifting" Name one person who isn't making money promoting this lifestyle and why they aren't a grifter yet so when Andrew is?

 

[GodfatherPartTwo]

I hardly think she clutches her pearls. Ive never seen them to pretend that they are the shining example of perfect behavior. Quite the opposite... They have highlighted how their past lives are but perfect. But the people attacking them are always doing so in bad faith and never because they are actually winning the argument.

I get that the people they argue with are degenerates. I just wish they wouldn't roll in the mud with the pigs so much. Might be fun to watch but it really doesn't accomplish anything.

Her joe Rogan interview pretty much covered all of that. And they've had other videos explaining the circumstances etc etc.

Haven't listened to that but I'll find the time soon enough.

It's a major detraction from the argument at hand and frankly shows to me your own judgemental attitude.

If a judgmental attitude bothered you, you wouldn't follow their channel. Their whole channel is built on judgment. It's meant to puff up their fanbase by "owning and pwning" whoever they disagree with. The casting stones business. The first video I ever saw of them was of them doing a hit piece on BrotherAugustine (after they had invited him over to their house, according to him). I recognize that's what they're about and want nothing to do with it, you can call that judgmental, I call it discerning.

At some level all people in this space are "grifting" Name one person who isn't making money promoting this lifestyle and why they aren't a grifter yet so when Andrew is?

Most of the people I listen to are pastors. Some of the old school radio personalities, but they're mostly gone now or are fully shilling for Israel. I can't name a single online-only persona that I follow, probably because I see them as grifters first and foremost.

 

[PurpleUrkel]

I get that the people they argue with are degenerates... Might be fun to watch but it really doesn't accomplish anything.

That's all it is for me. I watch Andrew Wilson yell at women so I don't have to. It's just a pressure release valve, pure entertainment, I watch this stuff like I watch old episodes of All In The Family. I love it when Archie Bunker is "racist" and says the word "jews"... It makes me feel not so alone and helps me keep my mouth shut when I'm out in public or socializing with my liberal leaning friends.

 

[GoodShepherd]

My complaint is not that he's uncouth. My complaint is that they're transparent grifters. Pointing out that she has 3 baby daddies is definitely an insult, so is saying you're too stupid to understand my arguments. He and his wife deliberately provoke people but then act like they're precious and above the fray when people poke back. Wash, rinse, repeat. Again, the goal is to be as sensationalistic as possible, farm attention in the attention economy. None of the "well she wrote a feminism bad book" means anything. They don't move the needle in anyway, they just play to their griftee fanbase.

Jesus said some pretty insulting things too, called a woman a dog, called people snakes, white washed tombs, evil, liars etc, we cant throw our Christian brothers and sisters under the bus because of minor insignificant things, give them at least the same grace you giving the other woman.


I think him and his wife are doing a very good much needed work and they also putting Christianity on the world radar, its possible secular people will start enquiring about Christianity because of these videos.

 

[Get2choppaaa]

I get that the people they argue with are degenerates. I just wish they wouldn't roll in the mud with the pigs so much. Might be fun to watch but it really doesn't accomplish anything.

Sometimes you have to meet people where they are in a way they understand to get them to engage.

I mean if you've ever successfully persuaded someone not to do something shameful you first have to make them realize that the act they are doing does in fact bring shame.

Sometimes you can convince the person you're engaged with, but due to the nature of media others see this and it's useful to them for their own discourse.

I rarely find his Whatever appearances to be super beneficial, but often when he debates commentators it is excellent.

If a judgmental attitude bothered you, you wouldn't follow their channel. Their whole channel is built on judgment. It's meant to puff up their fanbase by "owning and pwning" whoever they disagree with. The casting stones business. The first video I ever saw of them was of them doing a hit piece on BrotherAugustine (after they had invited him over to their house, according to him). I recognize that's what they're about and want nothing to do with it, you can call that judgmental, I call it discerning.

You may not be the audience, and again I'd say your lense is to view them that way. Which is totally fine.

Im not bothered by people being judgemental on what they choose to watch or not. Hell, my wife can't watch Will Ferrell movies, but I love me some Ricky Bobby! But you suggested that they get prickly when people bring up their own lives and clutch their pearls.... All I've seen on that is a reaction to someone losing the debate, bringing up spouses and calling them a whore.

I have no ideas about what beef he has with brother Augustine. Through if you sent me the video I'd love to watch.

Most of the people I listen to are pastors. Some of the old school radio personalities, but they're mostly gone now or are fully shilling for Israel. I can't name a single online-only persona that I follow, probably because I see them as grifters first and foremost.

I don't get spiritual guidance from Andrew certainly. He's just like Jay Dyer or E Michael Jones as far as I'm concerned. I agree with them on 90 percent of things, but I don't go to them to spiritual guidance. Are they grifting when the engage in debate with people? I mean EMJ wrote a book called the Jewish revolutionary spirit. If that isn't as sensational as it gets, I dunno what is.

When I think of a grifter in this space I think of Andrew Tate... A guy who made money exploiting men on pay chat webcam sites, is a Muzzie infidel, and prays on weak men with no father figures.

Or Jordan B Peterson. That dude is another example of a grifter. Make your room bucko!