Elon Musk Thread
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Any sort of historical exploration/colonization on Earth is in no way analogous to colonizing space. It's like saying, "I have no problem drinking a glass of water. Who are you to tell me I can't drink this Olympic swimming pool?" Musk's entire grift relies on taking advantage of this type of ignorance from the general public and an investing class who should know better.
If you want to get an idea of the engineering and logistical challenges of a moon or Mars base, try brainstorming what it would take for us to build a self-sustaining base/colony at the bottom of the ocean. And then when you're finished, remember that this endeavor would be much cheaper, easier, safer and potentially more profitable than a moon base. And yet there's a reason it's never been attempted, much less successfully completed.
Running a profitable space company is not a grift. Consider the jump from galleys rowing along the coast to ocean going east Indiamen crossing oceans. The improvements in shipbuilding, seamanship, and navigation are directly analogous to the advances needed for space exploration/colonization. 20 years ago profitable reusable rockets were a pipe dream. Much less at the size and scale of Falcon Heavy and Starship. Today multiple launches/recoveries in a day is normal. If it weren’t for SpaceX we’d be behind Russia and China in space. Not a grift, nor ignorance to support it.
The biggest problem with colonizing Mars is obviously the distance. Even if they can harvest a wide range of raw materials there and use them for building, and even if they are able to grow crops and animals for meat and fish, they will need to transport a lot of equipment, and a lot of specialized materials such as medicines. To harvest raw materials on Mars will first take a lot of mining, refining, and manufacturing equipment, with a whole spectrum of equipment for each type of resource. The amount of material from Earth needed to bootstrap an actual city would be immense, and then there's still a basic question if they could ever operate in the black, or would always be dependent on Earth continuing to pour money into the Martian settlement.
The other biggest problem is the low gravity and the effect it will have on health long term, especially for any children born there. You'd pretty much have to count on some kind of future medical technology to make the body maintain its muscle mass and bone density in the light gravity. The chance of monstrous side effects from these treatments is obviously high.
As far as the moon goes, it is much closer, so people could go there to work, and then come back. The gravity is so much lighter that it's obvious that people can't live in it long term. People would to there for a period of time then come back to Earth.
The moon has a poorer range of resources than Mars, so you'd have to transport even more equipment and supplies there to sustain a population. However, I think it is possible that some kind of economically useful activity could be done on the moon. If nothing else, scientific research will justify some spending, and there will be a market for tourism.
I expect that Elon will land men on the moon and build some kind of facility there. It remains to be seen how much he can scale that up.
Furthermore, Elon still wants to go to Mars. I expect he will get there in 10 years or so, but it's hard to say if he can build more than a small initial manned base.
You seem to have difficulty separating the fact that launching rockets and building moon bases are two entirely different things. Just because Elon can launch reusable rockets does not mean that he can colonize Mars or the moon. This is the sort of confusion that Elon relies on to create hype for his businesses and prolong his grifting. He's been making grandiose promises for years, failing to deliver on the vast majority of them, then pointing to his (much more modest) successes as evidence that he's capable of delivering on his next round of fantastical plans.
Building an EV company is NOT the same thing as deploying fully self-driving automobiles.
Building a working humanoid robot prototype is NOT the same thing as using billions of them to replace human labor and usher in an age of economic superabundance.
Launching reusable rockets and Starlink satellites is NOT remotely comparable to building a moon base or a Mars colony.
Elon Musk is not some sort of generational genius on par with Newton, Tesla or Galileo. He is not a superhero like Tony Stark. In my opinion, he is an egomaniacal drug addict playing a frontman role in exchange for wealth and power. He appears to spend most of his time doing drugs, chasing women to impregnate, shitposting on Twitter and playing computer games. He is not actually running any of these companies he is purported to be running. At most he shows up and has some meetings to keep up appearances. He is not a capable engineer. He is not involved in the day-to-day engineering decisions of his companies. If you listen to his interviews, the guy honestly comes across as fairly dull and stupid. In fact, he appears exactly like you would expect if he was an average guy who was playing the role of a super genius and trying not to expose himself.
I say all this as someone who isn't an Elon hater. Regardless of how or why it actually happened, I'm glad he bought Twitter. I think Starlink and SpaceX and grok are useful technologies. I just can't pretend that Elon himself is some sort of genius or that he is actually the brains behind any of this stuff. He's the consummate example of the emperor with no clothes. He has all the trappings of a real-life Tony Stark, but if you actually just focus on the man himself, you can't help but realize it's just a facade, and that he can't possibly be doing everything he purports to be doing - he isn't that capable to begin with, and there simply isn't enough time in the day to split his attention between that many projects.
Building up the most valuable auto company in the world today was a remarkable achievement, people just don't understand how hard a challenge that is, in an industry with huge technological and financial barriers to entry. The fact that Tesla received subsidies is not a big deal, all auto companies do. Ford, GM and Chrysler/Stellantis would have been long gone without them. Musk has created nearly half a million good jobs, mostly in the US, and almost single-handedly ensured the future of the auto industry in the US, he should be celebrated as a modern-day Henry Ford.
He's a bit of a weirdo, but compared to the other oligarchs like Zuck, Ellison, Bezos, Gates, Karp, Altman and co he's much less of a sociopath and should be credited for maintaining a relatively less censored social media platform. He's kissed the wall after flying too close to the ((sun)) but still shows the occasional sign of freewill, like this post today:
Wexner is a big cog in the Mega group of billionaires, and the kingpin of the Epstein pedo honeypot blackmail operation.
He's a bit of a weirdo, but compared to the other oligarchs like Zuck, Ellison, Bezos, Gates, Karp, Altman and co he's much less of a sociopath and should be credited for maintaining a relatively less censored social media platform. He's kissed the wall after flying too close to the ((sun)) but still shows the occasional sign of freewill, like this post today:
Wexner is a big cog in the Mega group of billionaires, and the kingpin of the Epstein pedo honeypot blackmail operation.
There is no we. You think you are in the same team as Musk?
He's a lot more Team USA than he is Team China or Russia.There is no we. You think you are in the same team as Musk?
Henry Ford wrote a book on the evil of the jews and Elon breeds with (((them))) out of wedlock.
And what if like Scorp says he didn't actually do it on his own but had some (((help))) ? Which seems like the more probable scenario than Elon being some lone genius becoming the richest man in the world without permission from (((The Gatekeepers))).
I think this is the real point and personally I don't 100% believe anyone about anything nowadays unless I know them and can look them straight in the eye while they're talking. Elon doesn't seem all that bright to me. He's actually quite dumb when it comes to women. Have you seen his breeder harem? This guy could breed with the hottest women in the world and he chooses goth dim wits and jews? As far as I know Elon is throwing Wexner under the bus because the elites that own him don't like the elites who own Wexner. Or maybe it's just a red meat distraction to give the goyim a win so they'll stop being so "antisemitic." One thing is for sure, Twitter will throttle your ass should you go too hard on the jews and as far as I know Elon controls the algorithm, so there's that. Proving once again that Elon is forked tongue and speaks out of both sides of his mouth.
Exactly, so it makes perfect sense that if Elon is controlled op and all tied up in this world of transexual Baphomet judaism that he would run cover for the cabal by "exposing" them now and again while simultaneously throttling the X algorithm for antisemitism 24/7, 365.