Decline of Functioning Society

KulturedKaveman said:
Well now yeah, but if you got a stem degree 2014 2015 just imagine! Imaging coming out that gate making 60k a year. I’m a bio guy. Our stuff’s worthless. Someone had to die to get me on the correct path and I’m in my 30s. Spent my 20s in low wage. If you graduated and had a tech degree or were a tradesmen, life was good in the 10s. I’ve known cyber security types that made the 6 in the 10s as INTERNS.

With that being said, how old are you? To be fair gen z got the AI revolution.
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I'm not sure why you down voted my post. I just posted the numbers that STEM grads and "hard degree" people are not doing well either. This is just a fact.

I am old, I had it way easier, I am financially secure. I just see the west collapsing due to third world immigration and I am trying to get people to wake up to this fact.
 
It_Is_My_Time said:
I'm not sure why you down voted my post. I just posted the numbers that STEM grads and "hard degree" people are not doing well either. This is just a fact.

I am old, I had it way easier, I am financially secure. I just see the west collapsing due to third world immigration and I am trying to get people to wake up to this fact.
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The west is too far gone to be saved at this point. At an individual level all you can do is move to a different country once you are financially secure.
 
It_Is_My_Time said:
I'm not sure why you down voted my post. I just posted the numbers that STEM grads and "hard degree" people are not doing well either. This is just a fact.
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Wasn’t trying to be a walnut or anything. It’s just not adding up to what’s being seen here on the ground. Like I said, I’m being anecdotal.
It_Is_My_Time said:
This simply is not true.

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Well physics and chemistry are kind of like mine, biology. They’re hard sciences but they’re generalist degrees. Many physics types end up in finance cos the math is similar. A lot of the stuff you posted with the highest unemployment is slop. Fine arts, sociology, anthropology, art degrees in general including commercial and graphic design…

If you wanna be a scholar and man of letters hit the books. Like I’m thinking about finding a way to become a history influencer. If you want to be an artist, get started. Anyone getting a degree in these things are trying to prolong adolescence.

College is still worth it, if you major in something good. If you major in slop, your career prospects will be slop.
 
Quite a large percentage of those who graduate from medical schools end up as researchers or lab workers and don't practice medicine.
 
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The problem is, the Desire to "Shoot for the Stars" Career-Academic whatever Mantra that grows so tiresome, as if some A-Hole that can do the Calculations will make great engineers. I believe labor in general needs a reevaluation and moreso a decent wage attached no matter what it is.

Lots of worthless academics and smart folks have evaded Productive Work in a fairy tale 20th Century of Shooting for Stars, forgetting that sometimes work and I mean Menail Productive Work that has Value and can sustain family and Community is the key to having this Civilization.
Accompanied by those with the brains and skills to oversea the desired outcomes.

The Over Financilization of the 20th Century has Bamboozled folks expectations along with atomizing us as individuals forgetting our roots for some faux noble cause of saving humanity.
 
I had a house in Canada when I lived there, sold it, been living in apartments ever since. I find I don't even want a house. A trailer would have plenty of space for me, it's really the yard, the garage, and a small barn or workshop I'd desire to have so I could pursue some hobbies related to each. That would be it. I'd also want a house simply to be able to pay off a small mortgage and own the home and only pay property taxes, preferably in a low-tax area, rather than pay rent that keeps increasing year over year. No interest in any home that requires a big monthly payment.

My point, if I had one, would be: people who haven't lived in a home consistently since they lived with their parents eventually begin to see that they don't need to pursue homeownership, or have no desire for most of the homes on the market. Not to mention a lot of people have small families or no family and so don't need a lot of space. Not to mention most things people do these days require no space. Most people tend to sit on a couch and scroll their phone in their off time, which requires hardly any space. I heard a woman at work mention her mortgage payment is 2500 a month. There's no way I'd ever want to pay that, even if I made a lot of money.
 
thinkreadwritecode said:
I had a house in Canada when I lived there, sold it, been living in apartments ever since. I find I don't even want a house. A trailer would have plenty of space for me, it's really the yard, the garage, and a small barn or workshop I'd desire to have so I could pursue some hobbies related to each. That would be it. I'd also want a house simply to be able to pay off a small mortgage and own the home and only pay property taxes, preferably in a low-tax area, rather than pay rent that keeps increasing year over year. No interest in any home that requires a big monthly payment.

My point, if I had one, would be: people who haven't lived in a home consistently since they lived with their parents eventually begin to see that they don't need to pursue homeownership, or have no desire for most of the homes on the market. Not to mention a lot of people have small families or no family and so don't need a lot of space. Not to mention most things people do these days require no space. Most people tend to sit on a couch and scroll their phone in their off time, which requires hardly any space. I heard a woman at work mention her mortgage payment is 2500 a month. There's no way I'd ever want to pay that, even if I made a lot of money.
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You are forgetting the tax angle and store of value angle which pushes a lot of people to buy bigger homes than what they physically need.
 
homersheineken said:
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This is disgusting and will only get worse. It's just the jewish system of economic usury in full effect. It's not "collapse" per se, but negative "advancement" that will continue to destroy the human psyche via Antichrist messaging of "it's never enough" consumption. There is no putting this (((genie))) back in the bottle. It's so strange how all these author's (Bradburry, Wells, Orwell, et. al) from the 20th Century predicted all this nefarious technocratic advancement and activity and us normies just gobbled up our own demise standing in line for atheist Job's iPhone #1.

All of this is of course unconstitutional and punishable by lengthy prison sentences and/or death (for economic treason, invasion of privacy, and repetitively defying the laws and natural order of the land in pursuit of monopolistic control over the human mind). (((It))) is already illegal, so good luck with (((lawmakers))) passing new laws to stop this, (((They))) are the ones who intentionally allowed this to happen in the first place. It's a feature not a bug.
 
PurpleUrkel said:
It's so strange how all these author's (Bradburry, Wells, Orwell, et. al) from the 20th Century predicted all this nefarious technocratic advancement and activity and us normies just gobbled up our own demise standing in line for atheist Job's iPhone #1.
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Feature indeed. They were part of the predictive programming model, mostly, but they were insightful. The 20th century writers, and the elites actually gaslight you/tell you what the plan is, were way ahead of their time but the people were already so debased it didn't matter. They weren't going to listen to CS Lewis, pay attention to Huxley, or imagine that Eric Blair might be right.

Urkel, America is f'd but you still say it's the greatest, which I find amusing.
 
Blade Runner said:
Feature indeed. They were part of the predictive programming model, mostly, but they were insightful. The 20th century writers, and the elites actually gaslight you/tell you what the plan is, were way ahead of their time but the people were already so debased it didn't matter. They weren't going to listen to CS Lewis, pay attention to Huxley, or imagine that Eric Blair might be right.

Urkel, America is f'd but you still say it's the greatest, which I find amusing.
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Good points on the predictive programming and relation to people like CS Lewis.

I don't want to put words in Urkel's mouth, but my take is that America is great because it seems the plan is to keep everyone here maximally comfortable and surrounded by maximal convenience. Yes, in reality the quality of everything has greatly degraded, but who cares when you have access to ever increasing cheap artificial versions of the real thing. Yes, in reality there is ever increasing control, but who cares when the system knows everything about me so that everything is so convenient. And the system (AI) is the expert so it knows best for me. This is the thinking of the general populace.

This has been the general track for the US (and entire developing world) for decades, probably longer. It's worked pretty well so far and it will continue.

That said, if you know what is happening, you can always refuse the comfort and convenience. It just comes at greater and greater psychological and social cost. But you can balance it still. Pick and choose your battles and decide the level of sacrifice in a place like the US.
 
Blade Runner said:
Feature indeed. They were part of the predictive programming model, mostly, but they were insightful. The 20th century writers, and the elites actually gaslight you/tell you what the plan is, were way ahead of their time but the people were already so debased it didn't matter. They weren't going to listen to CS Lewis, pay attention to Huxley, or imagine that Eric Blair might be right.

Urkel, America is f'd but you still say it's the greatest, which I find amusing.
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Jay Dyer did a good expose on these writers a while ago and how they were all co intell, can't seem to find it anymore.
 
Blade Runner said:
Urkel, America is f'd but you still say it's the greatest, which I find amusing.
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Slight derail, but I don't believe America is f*cked, I believe it is changing, and not for the better. It's in slow decline. Nothing to panic about. But I also believe in my ability to transcend these negative aspects of America and leverage the positives to my advantage, thus negating the declining factors and turning my life on US soil into a net positive. I can most certainly run out the clock on this reality of decline by confidently stating that I will not live to see the collapse of America and the US dollar. And so I am living and planning my life accordingly. I've also spent time in other countries (and will again soon) and in comparison to America those countries, though great in their own right, are backwater sh*tholes in terms of financial opportunities, overall safety, and infrastructure stability and functionality.

The US dollar is supreme and as I'm sure you will agree, it's great to take that dollar to most other countries and clean up on the exchange rate and overall cost of living. In America I live a lower middle class existence, but when I go to a couple of my favorite countries with US dollars I live an upper class existence which is kinda fun when you spend most of the year alone in the woods. But it's not something I need to do and I can easily live without it (international travel).

But yeah, when considering all other factors besides women (which admittedly America has fallen way behind in due to liberal feminism), if I had to stay put and choose one country to live in permanently on a limited budget for the rest of my life it would hands down be the USA. So yes, when framed in black and white like this I have no shame in saying, "America is the greatest," though there are plenty of other places that could also justifiably claim the same moniker.
 
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