Decline of Functioning Society

[Blade Runner]

I can most certainly run out the clock on this reality of decline by confidently stating that I will not live to see the collapse of America and the US dollar.

I don't think you're that old. The devaluation of the dollar that you're about to see is going to knock your socks off. It already has, that's why gold is soaring and stocks are incessantly going up. You're just using the word collapse differently; I'm saying that the standard of living is already collapsing.

But yeah, when considering all other factors besides women (which admittedly America has fallen way behind in due to liberal feminism), if I had to stay put and choose one country to live in permanently on a limited budget for the rest of my life it would hands down be the USA.

There are many good things about certain parts of the USA, no doubt. But safety, good customer service, identity, unity, and generally high IQ and courtesy aren't really present anymore, and if they are, they are also rapidly declining.

 

[PurpleUrkel]

You're just using the word collapse differently; I'm saying that the standard of living is already collapsing.

Not true. When something is great, a little less than great is not all that bad. For many they are having to cut back and lower their standard of living by not eating out as much, keeping a better eye on the thermostat, trading in the big truck for a 4-cylinder sedan, moving into a smaller house, etc. But saying that their standard of living is "collapsing" is a complete overreaction. And then you have someone like myself where the opposite is true. My standard of living is rising year over year. This will not change for the remainder of my life. I am much better off now than I was at anytime in the 1990's and 2010's. Why? Because when you start with nothing you go nowhere but up. My January 2026 sales are up 20% over 2025 and 30% over 2024. It's just the way it is, the numbers don't lie.

 

[Northumber]

I think you have good instincts. What do you see happening as we approach the 2030 special date for the "Great Reset?"

I suspect you may have better instincts than me when it comes to specific monetary and financial aspects of the future. I've read a lot of conjecture that points to drastic change but we are in a big system and we aren't that far away from 2030. Big systems usually don't move quickly. The fastest we've seen it change (and change globally) was during covid. It was dramatic but even that took, what, something like 2 to 3 years to complete?

But I do see AI disrupting labor. It doesn't even matter if it's crap, or a bubble for now, because in the short term it's still a vehicle (and/or an excuse) for potential profit for corporations (and the investor class). In the longer term, AI (and more tech in general) is a means to centralize /control assets for governing structures.

There are some philosophical things wrapped up in the AI question as well. Eventually the general populace is going to feel an existential crisis (even if people don't understand exactly why they feel the way they do and even if people are extremely distracted by entertainment or sports or news). I think we will see more societal level breakdowns (like what is happening in Minneapolis) as we approach 2030.

Musk has flatly stated the need for UBI. Larry Fink has said the capitalist system needs to evolve. We are moving to a new financial structure but 2030 still seems too quick. Robotics and AI will eventually make humans and the work we do "nonessential" but Musk and others are really going to have to pump out alot of robots to make that happen by 2030.

But when we do transition to whatever comes next I think there will be a breaking point where those who had sufficient assets are locked in, guaranteed, more or less, to stay in the investor class, and the rest are permanently locked out, on UBI for generations. Pretty bleak outlook, but, I bet there will still be wrinkles to thrive in.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

We all know what’s actually going on. Ai is trash. They’re using it as an excuse to fire a bunch of people and get a bunch of H1b slaves.

AI can't do much of anything without new nuclear power plants being built, which isn't happening at all, so it is all a fraud and cover to ship jobs overseas.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Even blue pilled conservatives are starting to notice.

 

[Blade Runner]

I suspect you may have better instincts than me when it comes to specific monetary and financial aspects of the future.

Yes, I'm sensitive to the spirit of the age.

See the new Fed Chair (to be approved)? He's linked to blackrock and his father in law is president of the world zio congress lol

There's only one reason I hope I'm wrong: most of you even will be living in a surveillance technocracy with little hope since so few own the elite orange coin.

We didn't see covscam for no reason. They didn't tell you 2030 just "for fun". Urkel is like a mormon who believes the USA is some God ordained nation, even though it's run by godless people. It's pretty funny to me at this point.

 

[RedLagoon]

Not true. When something is great, a little less than great is not all that bad. For many they are having to cut back and lower their standard of living by not eating out as much, keeping a better eye on the thermostat, trading in the big truck for a 4-cylinder sedan, moving into a smaller house, etc. But saying that their standard of living is "collapsing" is a complete overreaction. And then you have someone like myself where the opposite is true. My standard of living is rising year over year. This will not change for the remainder of my life. I am much better off now than I was at anytime in the 1990's and 2010's. Why? Because when you start with nothing you go nowhere but up. My January 2026 sales are up 20% over 2025 and 30% over 2024. It's just the way it is, the numbers don't lie.

Well if you have children you certainly know that life has gotten much harder, especially when you compare it our spoiled boomer parents.

Our children and grandchildren are going to have it even harder.

 

[Northern Pilgrim]

There's only one reason I hope I'm wrong: most of you even will be living in a surveillance technocracy with little hope since so few own the elite orange coin.

We didn't see covscam for no reason. They didn't tell you 2030 just "for fun". Urkel is like a mormon who believes the USA is some God ordained nation, even though it's run by godless people. It's pretty funny to me at this point.

To begin, I like both you and @PurpleUrkel. Both have interesting perspectives.
Both of you have been right about a lot of things, while approaching the issues from the opposite end of the spectrum.

In my experience, as gay and retarded as the US is becoming, it still has unmatched opportunity for starting at the bottom and making a life for yourself. Just think of all the opportunities even during the 2020 lockdown scam. If you didn't like the laws of the state you were in, you've had 5+ years to move and take up elsewhere. If 2030 indeed turns out to be another 'event' year, there's still almost 4 whole years to prepare. In my opinion, investing in yourself; skills, useful knowledge and experiences is primary. What you do after that for financial security is of less importance, be it Bitcoin, precious metals, or what have you. You are the asset and you have the investments in yourself regardless of how authoritarian things may develop.

 

[PurpleUrkel]

Well if you have children you certainly know that life has gotten much harder, especially when you compare it our spoiled boomer parents.

Our children and grandchildren are going to have it even harder.

You know, I think you're underestimating the resiliency of children and the human condition (not to mention Western Civilization). Children especially will adapt, what is foreign to you will become familiar to them. Every parent and grandparent for thousands of years has felt the same way you do now. Our epoch isn't unique in human history. Two-thousand years ago a 12 year-old's hand carved arrow head collection was equivalent to the Pokemon card collection of a 12-year-old today. Children have always been children, and though we seem to have advanced significantly in technological terms, the adolescent human psyche is still living in the stone age.

My grandparents used to freak out about my behavior, clothing, hair styles, and depressive attitude towards authority and life. They thought for sure our generation was doomed, not to mention completely alien. But to us the 80's and 90' were just "normal." Children today feel the same way about the year 2026 as you and I did about 1996.

Now, if you're projecting gloom and doom onto your children's psyche then of course they will suffer greatly, as the sins of the father shall be revisited upon the son. And so I would implore you, no, actually beg you, to refrain from doing just that and instead fill your children's hearts and minds with positivity and lightness about the world and their future in it (even if you believe it to be a lie). Do not destroy their innocence with your knowledge.

And no, I do not have children of my own but have multiple degrees in child development and psychology. And before anyone says, "Then what do you know about raising children," I'd refer you to the great Montessori Method of education invented by Maria Montessori who had no children of her own (actually, she had one, but didn't raise it, and had no connection to the child, and for all intents and purposes was childless).

 

[Blade Runner]

Both of you have been right about a lot of things,

I don't see what he's been right about, and he is (sorry Urkel, we agree on some things) totally unaware of monetary systems and debasement, but he interestingly does well in a country that at this stage is just the cleanest shirt in the bin. For that I commend him. Where I differ is that I've already done it all in life regarding credentials, career and success, so the only thing left (not that this is good) is to "win" the game (money/retirement) and then the most important part, walk away. The problem with achieving in the ego (honestly that's not me, I'm just realistic about what it is, where others aren't) and money world is that it really doesn't matter if you see things for what they are - most people don't, they really, really care about what others see them as, or think of them. It's a feminine mindset and a material trap, which go together of course.

Family was always more important to me, and I was raised by a good one, but I have too high of standards apparently for this age to make the worlds meet (=women aren't suitable). Quite frankly, it takes way too many things to come together, and there is really not a reward for a put together man at this point. It's mostly guys that are OK being simps that marry, placating wives to a degree rarely seen historically, if ever. I'm not that guy. I'm already bothered by seeing family members (women) and their friends do the childless dog thing and think it's normal.

You know, I think you're underestimating the resiliency of children and the human condition (not to mention Western Civilization). Children especially will adapt, what is foreign to you will become familiar to them.

He's right about this. The difference is that it's a tech driven surveillance state, something Lenin always dreamed of. The other difference is that we are going to see major population decline. Materialist, emotional people don't take this well. It's hard enough for us secure people. Then think it might be happening to your kids and relatives.

Just like "all men must die" though, these things must happen as well. The math is baked into the cake. The food, injections, and civil unrest will just add to the decline. I'm sorry to break the news to everyone, but we ain't seen nothing yet.