Donald Trump and US expansionism in North America

[Aldebaran]

Using lefty tactics to turn Greenland against Denmark. Interesting. Truth is if Greenland swaps, their living standards will drop. Don’t know if the people would be up for it.

It's only 57,000 people. USA funds free healthcare and generous welfare for 10 million Israelis so Greenland would be a drop in the sea by comparison.

Of course that's not going to happen, they will be robbed blind (by Israelis). But in theory it could happen.

 

[KulturedKaveman]

It's only 57,000 people. USA funds free healthcare and generous welfare for 10 million Israelis so Greenland would be a drop in the sea by comparison.

Of course that's not going to happen, they will be robbed blind (by Israelis). But in theory it could happen.

It’s funny you bring this up. I’m on a thread like this but in a huge believer in a national health service. Proof that it’s a good thing is Israel has it. If it wasn’t good, Israel would never have it while the US not having it.

 

[magoo]

US should have a national health service ASAP. It´s cheaper than private service. It´s retarded not to see the obvious. It´s better for government and people. Bad for pharma.

I think a deal will be made between US and Denmark. This is just negotiation for the deal. A rather dumb and stupid tactic of negotiation. But Trump has been making deals for a long time. So maybe it will work. Denmark is not looking for money I think. So maybe some different deal will be made.

Canada is opening a consulate in Greenland.

Canada's Indigenous governor general to visit Greenland as Trump renews talk of annexing it

Prime Minister Mark Carney says his foreign minister and the governor general will visit Greenland in early February in the wake of renewed threats by U.S.

apnews.com

 

[RedLagoon]

US should have a national health service ASAP. It´s cheaper than private service. It´s retarded not to see the obvious. It´s better for government and people. Bad for pharma.

I think a deal will be made between US and Denmark. This is just negotiation for the deal. A rather dumb and stupid tactic of negotiation. But Trump has been making deals for a long time. So maybe it will work. Denmark is not looking for money I think. So maybe some different deal will be made.

Canada is opening a consulate in Greenland.

Canada's Indigenous governor general to visit Greenland as Trump renews talk of annexing it

Prime Minister Mark Carney says his foreign minister and the governor general will visit Greenland in early February in the wake of renewed threats by U.S.

apnews.com

Greenland is costing Denmark a lot of money (Greenland doesn't really have an economy to speak of) so some form of deal will be made.

A lot of nords moving to Greenland coming in.

 

[homersheineken]

Some NATO employee I've never heard of, is threatening to occupy all US military bases in Europe if Trump takes Greenland.

Confiscate the US military bases with ... the US military since Europe doesn't have any???

 

[magoo]

Greenland is costing Denmark a lot of money (Greenland doesn't really have an economy to speak of) so some form of deal will be made.

A lot of nords moving to Greenland coming in.

A lease could make sense. 100 year lease. Trump is again making retard moves. The guy is an asnine diplomatically.

Denmark fought in Afghanistan for US. And lost soldiers there.

France wants to build an army and share nuclear weapons. But a more integrated EU has to happen as a condition.

 

[Caduceus]

 

[magoo]

This might be one of the dumbest geopolitical moves in the last 200 years. US is not protecting Europe. US is occupying Europe and making it subservient to US interests. Which is accepted cause both interests are generally alligned. US managed this feat by spending a few millions per year on European bases.

Its too stupid to be just this. Something more is behind this. Probably find out soon. I dont think its just epstein.

 

[Caduceus]

I predicted this a year ago on page 3 of this thread....

Exclusive: Trump administration mulls payments to sway Greenlanders to join US

U.S. officials have discussed sending lump sum payments to Greenlanders as part of a bid to convince them to secede from Denmark and potentially join the United States, according to four sources familiar with the matter.

www.reuters.com

 

[TruckDriver9]

 

[scary_robot_music]

I predicted this a year ago on page 3 of this thread....

Exclusive: Trump administration mulls payments to sway Greenlanders to join US

U.S. officials have discussed sending lump sum payments to Greenlanders as part of a bid to convince them to secede from Denmark and potentially join the United States, according to four sources familiar with the matter.

www.reuters.com

Seems like it should be more like 1m per Greenlander. Still cheap. Or, maybe the Danish princess option above.

 

[Droughtmeat]

It’s funny you bring this up. I’m on a thread like this but in a huge believer in a national health service. Proof that it’s a good thing is Israel has it. If it wasn’t good, Israel would never have it while the US not having it.

True. There are no downsides to having a healthy population. It's literally only in the west where this propaganda exists that it's every man for himself. Oh, and, by the way, that mentality only applies to whites living in the west. Everyone else is free to live off of government assistance.

Only in the west are things like living with your parents to save money, nepotism and working in groups across multiple families to achieve success frowned upon. Jews, Asians, Indians and Arabs always stick together and strive for collective success.

 

[Caduceus]

 

[KulturedKaveman]

View attachment 26837

Cos House Trump is a thing and borders change now when people get married. Got it

 

[Northern Pilgrim]

By whatever logic the Europeans are using, Russia should really be the biggest US ally, they did the most fighting and lost the most soldiers and civilians in WW2...
Idk what is up with Vance and Thiel, but the guy presents well to your average person. Definitely less abrasive and more "presidential" (whatever that means) than Trump.

 

[magoo]

By whatever logic the Europeans are using, Russia should really be the biggest US ally, they did the most fighting and lost the most soldiers and civilians in WW2...

US and Russia have complete different systems of values. US=individualism Russia=centralism/collectivism. Tocqueville in 1835 predicted US and Russia would become adversaries because of this.

Idk what is up with Vance and Thiel, but the guy presents well to your average person. Definitely less abrasive and more "presidential" (whatever that means) than Trump.

Vance is bright and plays with words. There wasnt a war on terror. The war was against US. US was the country attacked by jews and saudis (and I think russians were involved) during 9/11 and was the sole country up to now to request NATO support. Which was given. US is threatening to attack a country which came to their help less than three decades ago. Chapeau!!!

Trump Escobar Plata o plomo. Looll.

Since WWII US as free reign on Greenland. And can put whatever military they want. If it’s not secured it’s because US didn’t want to secure it. The security angle is bullshit.

Who is making money with this? How much are the comissions being paid. And to whom. Which are the companies who will benefit from it? Somebody is making money with this. Or there is an ulterior motive. Most likely the transformation of US into a regional power cutting ties with EU. But before they retreat they need to open China for jews.

There are small indicators US is starting to create a war economy.

Trump blocks defense company payouts until arms production speeds up

It is a rare presidential strike at Wall Street norms that sent defense stocks lower and signaled sweeping changes for America’s military-industrial complex.

www.reuters.com

Trump blocks defense company payouts until arms production speeds up​

 

[scary_robot_music]

Cos House Trump is a thing and borders change now when people get married. Got it

Well, the idea about the arranged marriage with the Danish princess with a dowry of Greenland is obviously a joke. Although, I think forging political alliances through arranged marriages was probably a pretty good system in the past, if one that would be hard to bring back nowadays. Kind of like how money used to be based on silver and gold.

About the House of Trump, I've been thinking lately about how there are some possible parallels between Trump and the 21st century USA and Julius Caesar and the late Roman Republic. So maybe after an interim period with Vance in charge, Barron takes the helm as a modern day American Augustus and the Trump dynasty becomes our Julio-Claudians. Who knows. It's interesting to think about.

 

[Ember]

"If we don't do it, Russia or China will take over Greenland"
"If we don't do it the easy way, we're going to do it the hard way."
"We are going to do something on Greenland, whether they like it or not"

The NeoCon Don.




A similar argument could be made for the US.

 

[scary_robot_music]

Sure... Why not?

When you control the world media, the reserve currency, and have the strongest military in the world.... Why wouldn't you say "it's my life. I do what I want!!!!" In your loudest Cartman yell possible?


I'm not saying that is good or bad, but factually you can't expect the biggest economic engine , most seasoned military, and communications and cultural monopoly to give a shit about other countries rules. Not at least if you were expecting a ruler to wield power effectively.

Trump just said the quite part out loud. And he's probably right.

The UN is a joke. NATO is a joke.

Also that quote/article is one of the gayest attempts to paint Trump like an unhinged nut I've seen in a while.

Youre retweeting something that reads like a tabloid...and feeding into the tabloid drama. Good job!

"Oh my God guys the orange man is gonna disregard all international law !!! Eeeeekkkk the sky is falling !!!! They're is no more credibility for the US."

It's been a while since we had credibility beyond our big stick ... But in the land of the blind, the one eyed jack (with a big stick) is still king.

Yes, just yesterday I was talking about this with someone and he said "how can you just take Greenland?" Just move in and take it, obviously, I said. His mind was blown.

During the Clinton administration, the US military had 2 million active duty. Before 9/11 the military budget was $200 billion. Now the budget is $1 trillion, there are only 1.3 million active duty, including thousands of women, thousands of diversity, thousands of sex deviants & trans, thousands of green carders, and thousands who don't even speak english.

The overall competence has decreased, for example in the Afghanistan withdrawal, and many top generals openly defied Pres. Trump during his first term.

I think the corruption has gotten so bad, for example the problems with the F-35's, that more money will make the US military worse.

I used to do contract work for the US military overseas. I remember always feeling dismayed at the massive amount of single mothers, especially in the army.

 

[KulturedKaveman]

Yes, just yesterday I was talking about this with someone and he said "how can you just take Greenland?" Just move in and take it, obviously, I said. His mind was blown.

The problem is it’s Danish, do we declare war on Denmark and have Americas most ridiculous, and probably shortest, war ever?

Second - world precedent. Doing stuff like this actually negatively affects Americas dominance because as we go, so does the world. We kind of blew up our own order. What’s to stop China from going “this is our Monroe Doctrine? Get out of our back yard. We don’t want you in the Philippines and Japan anymore. Leave or we’ll destroy your bases” or Putin thinking “wait, I can kidnap people?”