Decline of Functioning Society
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I don't disagree they can, but we are missing the broader culture that will support them (women and children) in it. Our culture is what it is. Everyone has a smart phone. This has obliterated rural simplicity. There is no place untouched by the effect of a phone. So wherever you go, no matter how tough you are, you will be dealing with its effects on people. And it's extremely detrimental for women (comparing themselves) and kids (trying to build actual human connection).
I also don't disagree that men should toughen up but can we agree that culture is nowhere close to what it has been for the past thousand years? It's nowhere close to what it has been 20 years ago. There is no rural area to retreat to anymore because modern culture has subsumed it with the smartphone. Go to some remote village in Africa now and you will see kids watching the same tiktok.
The magnitude of toughness and sacrifice from men is greater than we think and it isn't even displayed by any of us here glued to our screens and fiddling with our fondle-slabs.
Yes, I think something like them is what we should keep in mind as a goal, or an ideal. Any step we can move in that direction is a good one. The tough part to duplicate is the community/social aspect. You have to find an entire group willing to make sacrifices.
Living away from modern society solo is a good option for someone in their older years.
Having a family in this kind of situation, yes, would be hard to keep them from smartphones use, with satellite internet available almost everywhere, but there are people out there who are doing this now, no phones, no internet in their communities. Rural simplicity still exists, just harder to do it when one has a family. If children are home schooled and don't get access to smartphones it wouldn't even bother them, but it could impair their survival in dystopian modern world if they had chosen to join that world when they grow up. Many prople who grew up in isolation on remote properties chose to join the world and live in big cities, you never know. Amish kids have pretty much the world within the world to live in, mini economy and plenty of marriage options, so they do not have to leave that small world.
To someone older, though, it doesn't matter much what the current culture is, just got to do own thing.
Having a family in this kind of situation, yes, would be hard to keep them from smartphones use, with satellite internet available almost everywhere, but there are people out there who are doing this now, no phones, no internet in their communities. Rural simplicity still exists, just harder to do it when one has a family. If children are home schooled and don't get access to smartphones it wouldn't even bother them, but it could impair their survival in dystopian modern world if they had chosen to join that world when they grow up. Many prople who grew up in isolation on remote properties chose to join the world and live in big cities, you never know. Amish kids have pretty much the world within the world to live in, mini economy and plenty of marriage options, so they do not have to leave that small world.
To someone older, though, it doesn't matter much what the current culture is, just got to do own thing.
It all attitude
I don't know about attitude, it is all about might makes right. Which is why we are spending billions taking out drug cartels, as the excuse, in Venezuela, but magically can't seem to do anything about the drug cartels in Mexico which cause way more harm.
And this is why my point is completely over your head.
I take it you didn't watch my video.
I did watch the video. The video simply said "might makes right". The bad guys are in charge in the west, and they can get their way, even if it is anti-Christian, because they have the might and make it right.
I think it went over my head as well. Are we siding with 'the appeal to power' or not? Or are you saying it's all about that struggle, to 'appeal to power' or to not?
The last 5 seconds of the video. Those who are going to show up empty handed will always do so. Those who show up with a gun will always take what they want.
Be the guy with the gun.
And if you are the guy with the gun, literally, the powers will probably put you away for a long time and they will always have the bigger gun anyway. When its you against the powers you do not want a gun, you want clever ways to deal with them, being more clever because a lot of times they are not that smart. I'd say its the smarts that win at the end. The world and life's order is unjust but finite.
Precisely, it will take people organizing to take the power away from the satanic elite, but as individuals, which satanic conservatism preaches, we are powerless.
I'm curious, exactly what is it you posit that would make conservatism satanic?
I guess when it becomes about support of Israel, pretty telltale stuff
Yes, like @jayco said, the overt support for Israel. Combined with the push for capitalism, which is satanic at its core. Also, the push for individualism, which allows for satanic vices to take root. Add in, anything their base wants, but isn't satanic, they "just don't have the votes for that", or whatever excuse they come up with.
I can't imagine living in a place this nice, much less Los Angeles of all places. Talk about the realities of third world immigrations being glaring, this really shows how much these people have destroyed our once nice nation.
Yes, I've been one to point out the inverted version of pride = despair, the flip side of what Satan desires. In fact, he might prefer it since it leads to a more concrete destruction of the person and those around him, with such bad energy all the time. These are the types that think the world is out go get them, as if they are so special. Similar to the people who think they are the best, and they are "preferred" as if they are that special big picture either.
You haven't read or understood the population boom thread either, huh.
You can only do things with the culture when it is LEAD by people with POWER and PRINCIPLE. If the structure disallows the members to lead, you will have nothing of the sort. This should be obvious to you by now. Men by definition can't "toughen" up while the existing structure still stands, because the paid enforcers (violent men with guns and orders) will continue to do the bidding of the gynocentric societal order. Just look at marriage, family courts, government, universities, etc for all the examples you need.
There are men doing a great job while working with little to nothing that get zero credit because the gynocracy by definition only extolls the feminine toxicity at this point. I just can't imagine at this point choosing a type of slavery, or at least choosing something that I know is an investment with a really high degree of outright failure, or minimal ROI if it even withstands going belly up. I feel bad for most of the guys in marriages that I know, to be honest. If they couldn't create a narrative in their minds that it's all about the kids, it would be totally worthless. That women choose this path, whether knowingly or not, is irrelevant to me. The payout or ROI isn't there and that's all that matters. It also shows us where it's all going, because most guys, especially the successful ones, have figured this out.
I honestly we didn’t know that manufacturing workers were so well paid 100 years ago
Imagine still signing up for the military and you are "protected" by the software written by people who couldn't figure out plumbing, or simply not spitting out too many kids.
And if injured in battle you come back to your doctor.
And if injured in battle you come back to your doctor.