Electric Vehicles Thread (Bikes, Cars, Trucks, etc.)
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Im never going to ride a super sized battery. just to be safe, doubt it will be good for us.
its just easier to not get in a vehicle at all that requires all this shielding etc. They want to sell the product of course they say it will be safe just like vaccins are safe.
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I recently leased an electric car. The lease builds in all the electric car incentives, which makes the lease price very low. Also, with a lease I don't have to worry about the battery pack degrading or hurting resale value. I just turn it in after two years. It's a Nissan Ariya. Nissan has been in trouble lately, and I think they offered a fire-sale deal to try to move a lot of cars and generate some cash flow.
I got the lease for no money down and $197 a month. Also, I am driving this instead of a large SUV that gets 15 mpg. So, I'm saving nearly $200/month in gas. The net cost of this car is nearly zero for me, with the exception that my car insurance has gone up by adding a new vehicle to my collision coverage. The cost of electricity in the first month was trivial for the 900 miles I put on it. I still have my big SUV, so I still have all of the advantages of range and hauling capacity when I need it. However, I've hardly used it since I got this car.
It's a really nice car! Spacious, solid, luxurious, fast, sharp looking. I've driven a lot of rental cars when traveling for work, and this is much nicer than most of them. Of course, rental cars tend to have base trim and features, but still, this is nicer than most of the late model cars that I have driven.
I really like the power of the electric car. It accelerates very quickly, especially at low speeds. I can easily pull into traffic and be up to speed with the rest of the traffic almost instantly, and I can easily dart forward to get in position to merge to the next lane. When I first got it, I found myself enjoying the rush of stomping on the peddle, and before I knew it I was going 70 mph on a surface street!
On the negative side, it does have a fairly low range. They advertise 205 miles range, but I think running the heat in the winter knocks that down a lot. My range is only about 150 miles right now. Also, I'm only charging at 120 volts, which is very slow. I've been able to keep up by charging at home every night, but just barely. I will install a 240 outlet in my garage at some point. So far it has been enough for me with my daily driving.
I quickly started having the feeling they sometimes show in advertisements, of driving by gas stations and laughing because I don't need what they're selling any more. When I step on the accelerator to speed up real fast, it's nice and quiet. I don't have a big roar from a crude internal combustion engine. It does feel like electric cars are the future and gas cars are primitive. I'm still keeping my big gas powered SUV though.
I never intended to get an electric car, or even a new car, but when a coworker told me about this deal, I checked into it, and it was too good a deal to pass up. Now that I have the electric car, I have to say that I've become a fan.
Here's what it looks like:
I got the lease for no money down and $197 a month. Also, I am driving this instead of a large SUV that gets 15 mpg. So, I'm saving nearly $200/month in gas. The net cost of this car is nearly zero for me, with the exception that my car insurance has gone up by adding a new vehicle to my collision coverage. The cost of electricity in the first month was trivial for the 900 miles I put on it. I still have my big SUV, so I still have all of the advantages of range and hauling capacity when I need it. However, I've hardly used it since I got this car.
It's a really nice car! Spacious, solid, luxurious, fast, sharp looking. I've driven a lot of rental cars when traveling for work, and this is much nicer than most of them. Of course, rental cars tend to have base trim and features, but still, this is nicer than most of the late model cars that I have driven.
I really like the power of the electric car. It accelerates very quickly, especially at low speeds. I can easily pull into traffic and be up to speed with the rest of the traffic almost instantly, and I can easily dart forward to get in position to merge to the next lane. When I first got it, I found myself enjoying the rush of stomping on the peddle, and before I knew it I was going 70 mph on a surface street!
On the negative side, it does have a fairly low range. They advertise 205 miles range, but I think running the heat in the winter knocks that down a lot. My range is only about 150 miles right now. Also, I'm only charging at 120 volts, which is very slow. I've been able to keep up by charging at home every night, but just barely. I will install a 240 outlet in my garage at some point. So far it has been enough for me with my daily driving.
I quickly started having the feeling they sometimes show in advertisements, of driving by gas stations and laughing because I don't need what they're selling any more. When I step on the accelerator to speed up real fast, it's nice and quiet. I don't have a big roar from a crude internal combustion engine. It does feel like electric cars are the future and gas cars are primitive. I'm still keeping my big gas powered SUV though.
I never intended to get an electric car, or even a new car, but when a coworker told me about this deal, I checked into it, and it was too good a deal to pass up. Now that I have the electric car, I have to say that I've become a fan.
Here's what it looks like:
What is the endgame of promoting electric vehicles beyond their merits? There are many negatives associated with electric vehicles, such as extremely high replacement costs for batteries, a propensity to catch fire, slow charging times except with certain superchargers, low resale value, and so on.
In my country, electric vehicles are treated as the holy grail of transportation solutions. City buses are being rapidly replaced by EVs, all of which are Chinese-made, and thankfully none have caught fire yet. If you buy electric cars and motorcycles, you are entitled to tax breaks, making the purchase price lower. Over time, I have seen more and more EVs being used both personally and for fleets.
Here, Teslas are very rare, while Toyota EVs and Hyundai Ioniqs are more common. However, the vehicles that proliferate are Chinese brands like Wuling and BYD, as they are cheaper and designed for daily use.
Toyota Innova have become one of the casualties of electrification. Although Innova were traditionally offered in both gasoline and diesel engine variants, the newest model, Innova Zenix, is available only in gasoline and hybrid variants without diesel, as it is claimed that the hybrid is as efficient as the diesel.
As a fan of diesel engines myself, I dislike that diesels are becoming less popular and will likely be harder to obtain in the future. My family has owned an Isuzu diesel car since 1997 (28 years), and the engine is still going strong. Can electric cars say the same after more than 20 years?
Why is research in favor of renewable and clean diesels no longer being pursued? Rudolf Diesel originally envisioned his engines to be efficient and capable of running on different types of fuels. Perhaps the electric lobbyists have won?
In my country, electric vehicles are treated as the holy grail of transportation solutions. City buses are being rapidly replaced by EVs, all of which are Chinese-made, and thankfully none have caught fire yet. If you buy electric cars and motorcycles, you are entitled to tax breaks, making the purchase price lower. Over time, I have seen more and more EVs being used both personally and for fleets.
Here, Teslas are very rare, while Toyota EVs and Hyundai Ioniqs are more common. However, the vehicles that proliferate are Chinese brands like Wuling and BYD, as they are cheaper and designed for daily use.
Toyota Innova have become one of the casualties of electrification. Although Innova were traditionally offered in both gasoline and diesel engine variants, the newest model, Innova Zenix, is available only in gasoline and hybrid variants without diesel, as it is claimed that the hybrid is as efficient as the diesel.
As a fan of diesel engines myself, I dislike that diesels are becoming less popular and will likely be harder to obtain in the future. My family has owned an Isuzu diesel car since 1997 (28 years), and the engine is still going strong. Can electric cars say the same after more than 20 years?
Why is research in favor of renewable and clean diesels no longer being pursued? Rudolf Diesel originally envisioned his engines to be efficient and capable of running on different types of fuels. Perhaps the electric lobbyists have won?
How much CO2 was released from this never ending fire? Not to mention, the poisoning of our ocean?
How much CO2 was released from this never ending fire? Not to mention, the poisoning of our ocean?
In response to this, and other, incidents with EVs catching fire on cargo vessels, Matson - an American shipping company active in the Pacific (Hawaii, Alaska, Guam, Pacific Islands, etc.) suspends shipping of EVs and hybrids.
Matson Suspends Electric Vehicle Shipments Over Battery Fire Concerns
Matson, Inc. (NYSE: MATX), a leading U.S. carrier in the Pacific, has announced the immediate suspension of transporting electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles aboard its vessels, citing growing safety concerns...
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Chinese lithium batteries are scary as hell, too many videos online of these WMDs exploding seemingly unprovoked for sane people not to care. Likewise Chang EVs get endlessly talked up, yet at the same time in the West the climate scam makes these inferior vehicles unnecessary. Wonder what's going on there, wink wink.
Two added videos of Chinese EVs burning below are from today, the third one was added as to further prove that China really is a high trust society. These EVs are literal death traps, only reason why yours truly would buy one is because the Chinese state would pay 50 percent of it through subsidies, getting Xi to subsidize my new car gets me going.
Two added videos of Chinese EVs burning below are from today, the third one was added as to further prove that China really is a high trust society. These EVs are literal death traps, only reason why yours truly would buy one is because the Chinese state would pay 50 percent of it through subsidies, getting Xi to subsidize my new car gets me going.
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One in 6 new cars being sold today in Australia is Chinese, a number predicted to rise to 1 in 3 by 2030.
Do you think these people Down Under are stupid, or don't have safety standards?!? Perhaps you think they have been infiltrated by the Cee Cee Pee and forced to buy Chinese ticking time bombs on wheels??
Maybe your buddies Serpetza and C-milk should go to the Oz consulate and warn them about the millions of exploding Chinese EVs, surely the next evil plot of the "Changs"...
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All lithium batteries, regardless of make, are prone to fire. It's called the "thermal runaway"
www.qnityelectronics.com
The biggest threat to electric vehicles – and the materials solution
The biggest threat to electric vehicles – and the materials solution
www.qnityelectronics.com
I have an electric car, but I keep it parked outside. I don't ever plan to keep it inside the garage.All lithium batteries, regardless of make, are prone to fire. It's called the "thermal runaway"
The biggest threat to electric vehicles – and the materials solution
The biggest threat to electric vehicles – and the materials solution
The topic of Chinese EVs remains fiery, these WMDs in disguise keep exploding at an alarming rate. Videos are from this week alone, and these are the ones that are filmed and make it to the non-Chang internet.
Chinese EV explodes, fire spreads to at least 10 other cars, several apartment blocks were affected too.
Chinese EV caught fire in the car showroom
Chinese EV combusts mid journey
Chinese EV self immolates in a tunnel
Chinese e-bike self combusts
No moving imagery on this one.
Like in a cartoon, video is a bit older.
Chinese EV explodes, fire spreads to at least 10 other cars, several apartment blocks were affected too.
Chinese EV caught fire in the car showroom
Chinese EV combusts mid journey
Chinese EV self immolates in a tunnel
Chinese e-bike self combusts
No moving imagery on this one.
Like in a cartoon, video is a bit older.
Cartoonish indeed - and very fake, lol. Did you even watch that video?
20.4 million EVs in China, a few dozens might burn every year. Let's say 200/year, that would translate to 1 in 100,000 cars burning up.
Let's look at combustion engine cars:
AI Overview
While a specific total number of car fires at gas stations isn't readily available, the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) estimates there were about 2,340 vehicle fires annually at service/gas stations from 2014-2018, with 75% caused by mechanical or electrical failures, and only 20% of those fires starting with the ignition of gasoline. The number of vehicle fires at these properties has more than doubled since 1980.
See? This is how you look at accidents and assess their context with real baselines, if your IQ is above room temperature. If these EVs were the ticking time bombs that your geeky Taiwanese and Chinese X neolibs contend, these vehicles would have been banned from countries like Australia or the EU, instead they are selling like hot cakes (no pun intended).
Big brain time. Your EV battery is on fire? No problem, fire it at the car in the next lane.