Charlie Kirk Thread

[Northumber]

I think it was an odd choice for her to wear black leather pants but she's always presented herself with some type of glamour.

So is the 'theory' here that this was a professional hit and the official story is completely false or that some type of online brainwashing/nudging took place?

Yes, I think the theories range from the entire thing is fake and a show for us (Charlie isn't even a real person), to Charlie was real and killed and nearly everyone around him is a fake person (therefore a professional-type killing), to most events and people being real but people are using a crisis for their gain with various levels of interior intent and ulterior motives behind that (include online nudging/brainwashing here), to every combination in between those options.

Everything in our news/online/media world that we consume has some level of production over it (the nature of it is designed for our consumption). It's very difficult at this point to determine what is real. We don't live in a world designed for authenticity. I very much doubt we will ever know everything that really happened. I do not think the official story is the whole story.

Regardless of Erika's interior intents she has now gained in public notoriety after Charlie's death (she's not the only one). We are here talking about her. We had no idea who she was before. I will say that Erika being so public facing like this is not natural for a woman, but I also concede that we do not live in a natural time.

 

[Tippy]

Yes, I think the theories range from the entire thing is fake and a show for us (Charlie isn't even a real person), to Charlie was real and killed and nearly everyone around him is a fake person (therefore a professional-type killing), to most events and people being real but people are using a crisis for their gain with various levels of interior intent and ulterior motives behind that (include online nudging/brainwashing here), to every combination in between those options.

Everything in our news/online/media world that we consume has some level of production over it (the nature of it is designed for our consumption). It's very difficult at this point to determine what is real. We don't live in a world designed for authenticity. I very much doubt we will ever know everything that really happened. I do not think the official story is the whole story.

Regardless of Erika's interior intents she has now gained in public notoriety after Charlie's death (she's not the only one). We are here talking about her. We had no idea who she was before. I will say that Erika being so public facing like this is not natural for a woman, but I also concede that we do not live in a natural time.

I find the nudge/brainwash theory a little implausible as well if I'm honest.

What's the 'based' take on the whole Trump ear thing at this point? Was that actually fake and 4d chess to ensure he got re-elected?

 

[Northumber]

I find the nudge/brainwash theory a little implausible as well if I'm honest.

What's the 'based' take on the whole Trump ear thing at this point? Was that actually fake and 4d chess to ensure he got re-elected?

I'm probably not the right one to give a based take but I initially thought it was real. I still do now but there are weird things about that event as well (a photo of the bullet being one). I think at the very least there have been some back room deals with various levers of power to let Trump and his family continue without being killed/destroyed. I don't think Trump operates THAT autonomously from the general political/corporate/financial global system (none of us really can though).

 

[PurpleUrkel]

Charlie saying that the only just thing to do should someone take his life would be not to forgive them, but to kill them:

 

[Shaquilleoatmeal]

 

[Sandalwood Peak]

The psychoanalysis of Erica is unnecessary. If you threw a camera in my face after a personal tragedy, I would be putting on a show too for the viewers. People are fake. Yeah, she's playing it up, it's cringey. Just don't watch it. Being sad and fake are not mutually exclusive. You can do both. People are not cardboard archetypes. They have layers.

Hypothetically she could be so depressed she wouldn't feel the need to do all this, but I wouldn't wish that on a person. There's a lot of people that self-destruct and eventually altogether die after a personal tragedy. They get addicted to the pain and just wither away. This is not something you want, for anyone.

 

[PurpleUrkel]

The psychoanalysis of Erica is unnecessary.

TPUSA seems to be some kind of "non-profit" tax exempt money laundering operation under the guise of "spreading the gospel" in order to teach students "fiscal responsibility" via limited government... Yada, yada, yada. It's another 501c3 non-profit scam based on cult of personality and talking. It actually does nothing except rake in tons of cash just like other evangelical type mega church's that are paid to shill for "judeo-Christian" Israel. The organization not only acts like an NGO, but is knee deep in jewish funding. Erica is now the CEO of it's 150 million dollar endowment, and so yes, having taxpayers "psychoanalyze" her is not only necessary, but fiscally and morally responsible.

 

[Tippy]

I'm probably not the right one to give a based take but I initially thought it was real. I still do now but there are weird things about that event as well (a photo of the bullet being one). I think at the very least there have been some back room deals with various levers of power to let Trump and his family continue without being killed/destroyed. I don't think Trump operates THAT autonomously from the general political/corporate/financial global system (none of us really can though).

So you think the OG plan was for that to have happened? Cos it seems Trump has been in with Israel and they've kind of allowed the rise of right wing nationalism/end of excessive woke so long as Israel's interests are not harmed.

Maybe the 'failure' of that led them to try it again but it's kinda hard to fathom cos surely the success rate of online nudging has to be pretty small especially when considering all it takes to carry out such a thing.

 

[Sandalwood Peak]

TPUSA seems to be some kind of "non-profit" tax exempt money laundering operation under the guise of "spreading the gospel" in order to teach students "fiscal responsibility" via limited government... Yada, yada, yada. It's another 501c3 non-profit scam based on cult of personality and talking. It actually does nothing except rake in tons of cash just like other evangelical type mega church's that are paid to shill for "judeo-Christian" Israel. The organization not only acts like an NGO, but is knee deep in jewish funding. Erica is now the CEO of it's 150 million dollar endowment, and so yes, having taxpayers "psychoanalyze" her is not only necessary, but fiscally and morally responsible.

It's pretty obvious the Kirk family are in deep with the Jews. The assassination is a "too close to home" moment for some white people. I came to terms with that and just let it be.

Fuentes decided to be sanctimonious about it, a recurring theme with him. I guess he was too busy mourning to remember Kirk's zionism. Now he wants to read the body language of the widow to make sure she's paying proper homage to Kirk?

I've read your comments in the other thread. At the end of the day, all I care about is ideological consistency. If someone wants to use the widow as some kind of red pill about female nature, that's fine.

Using the widow as a vehicle to attack the late Kirk while pretending to mourn him is slimy faggot behavior, as Nick is doing.

 

[magoo]

Fuentes was afraid they would spin the assassination against him/movement. This is why he always said it was just a lone killer and not Israel. It was a calculated move to protect himself.

There are a lot of things which didn´t make sense. The widow is strange. But you can´t accuse someone whose husband was killed without solid evidence.

 

[eradicator]

I’m not even sure where to put this, but young people apparently are getting some Israel fatigue

 

[GodfatherPartTwo]

Charlie saying that the only just thing to do should someone take his life would be not to forgive them, but to kill them:

I don't see Charlie preaching against forgiveness in this clip. I just see him pointing out that the State has a God-given responsibility to carry out justice. In fact, Erika Kirk said that she would rather the government decide what to do with Robinson. Her forgiveness is about her not seeking out personal vengeance, not about trying to stop the State from giving out the death penalty.

 

[eradicator]

It's pretty obvious the Kirk family are in deep with the Jews. The assassination is a "too close to home" moment for some white people. I came to terms with that and just let it be.

That’s just it, Charlie had started to turn down hundreds of millions of jew/israeli money just a week before his assassination.

His death was perhaps a message to other influencers to not talk bad about Israel and their genocide .

As for Erika Kirk, she is a professional actress. (She’s done reality tv and commercials and beauty pageants) She took over turning point USA and started taking all of the jew money that Charlie had just refused.

We are seeing her go on this publicity tour as well. She isn’t a grieving widow. I’ve seen people lose loved ones, they didn’t need to use fake tears to cry they were bawling for months.

All of her grieving and interviews reeks as highly choreographed, and a publicity stunt for money/attention etc. we should be calling it out for what it is

 

[PurpleUrkel]

I don't see Charlie preaching against forgiveness in this clip.

He's not preaching against forgiveness, he just doesn't mention it. He mentions killing the perpetrator who would kill him and says nothing about the corrupt "State" doing it. This Biblical interpretation that it is some high up authority in government that is supposed to punish criminals while it is us plebs who are supposed to forgive our unrepentant attackers until the State carries out (((it's))) elongated, tiresome version of liberal justice just doesn't square with the red pill belief in small government due to the fact that the government has become corrupted by (((evil))) forces.

The real issue is that all religious/political grifters have a similar modus operandi and TPUSA does not seem to be exempt from this having showed all the classic signs [tax exempt "non-profit," large endowment based on "donations," cult of personality leader(s) living lives of luxury, attracting shady characters that leads to threats, intimidation, law suits, and even violence, etc]. It is not just one thing like "Erica Kirk seems fake," it is a slew of red flags that when looked at carefully, in their totality, and with a critical eye, don't add up to being something honest, true, and good.

 

[GodfatherPartTwo]

He mentions killing the perpetrator who would kill him and says nothing about the corrupt "State" doing it.

Everytime he talked about the death penalty, he is referring to it as a judicial punishment. Show me a clip where he appeals to mob justice or personal vengeance.

This Biblical interpretation that it is some high up authority in government that is supposed to punish criminals while it is us plebs who are supposed to forgive our unrepentant attackers until the State carries out (((it's))) elongated, tiresome version of liberal justice just doesn't square with the red pill belief in small government due to the fact that the government has become corrupted by (((evil))) forces.

This is not even an interpretation. It's just Romans 13. The liberals don't believe in it either, they believe in mob justice.

 

[Sandalwood Peak]

That’s just it, Charlie had started to turn down hundreds of millions of jew/israeli money just a week before his assassination.

I don't hate Charlie Kirk and I don't believe in the "brainwashed white people" cope.

I don't see the need to whitewash his earthly deeds. I'm not even sure what's the argument. He was bad but repented before he died? I personally never felt the need to attack him, even though I think debating SJWs is retarded. They should be bullied, not debated. Them celebrating his death proves my point. Are people feeling guilty about calling him a Zionist and a faggot when he was alive?

As far as him pushing the Jewish agenda, it doesn't bother me all that much. I think the Jews are a good example themselves why it doesn't matter. Israelis are very liberal as far as I'm aware. Israelis also condone murdering kids for their personal gain or "security". White people on the other hand are very different. White people too are very liberal. Whites DO NOT condone doing anything for their benefit. This is a problem with white people themselves, not with being brainwashed. At the end of the day, I don't hold it against Charlie for working for them. Thanks to the white race you either sperg in a dark basement, or you go sell out. Isn't that the divide on the forum as well?

 

[Thomas More]

He's not preaching against forgiveness, he just doesn't mention it. He mentions killing the perpetrator who would kill him and says nothing about the corrupt "State" doing it. This Biblical interpretation that it is some high up authority in government that is supposed to punish criminals while it is us plebs who are supposed to forgive our unrepentant attackers until the State carries out (((it's))) elongated, tiresome version of liberal justice just doesn't square with the red pill belief in small government due to the fact that the government has become corrupted by (((evil))) forces.

The real issue is that all religious/political grifters have a similar modus operandi and TPUSA does not seem to be exempt from this having showed all the classic signs [tax exempt "non-profit," large endowment based on "donations," cult of personality leader(s) living lives of luxury, attracting shady characters that leads to threats, intimidation, law suits, and even violence, etc]. It is not just one thing like "Erica Kirk seems fake," it is a slew of red flags that when looked at carefully, in their totality, and with a critical eye, don't add up to being something honest, true, and good.

This doesn't follow at all. The scriptures about the obeying the government are not talking about some ideal Christian government. They are specifically referring to the pagan Romans who had conquered Israel. Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's is talking about the Roman Emperor, regardless of his many flaws.

 

[PurpleUrkel]

Candace saying Charlie Kirk thought zionists were going to kill him. She also talks about how the usual suspects are attempting to co-opt Charlie's pro-Israel legacy (and cement it in stone) by saying that Tucker interviewing the "antisemite" Nick Fuentes was a betrayal to Kirk because he was a lover of all things Israel: