Decline of Functioning Society

[PurpleUrkel]

Not taking any side in this discussion, but check Your sources.

People in the EU worked on average 36 hours per week - News articles - Eurostat

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ec.europa.eu

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Edit: Average weekly working hours in US states. US Bureau of Labor Statistics
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Average weekly working hours in the US

How long is the average work week in the US?

landgeist.com

table-4-average-hours-and-earnings-of-all-employees-on-private-nonfarm-payrolls-by-state.htm

www.bls.gov

Furthermore, what we do for money is only part of our weekly work schedule. By the time you add in food acquisition and meal preparation, cleaning the kitchen after meals, laundry, showering, working out, dusting, vacuuming, DIY car maintenance, DIY home repairs and maintenance, no productive human being in Western Civilization gets through a week without putting in 60+ hours of hard work.

 

[Get2choppaaa]

Guys, not sure how old everyone here is but you do realize that you are having the same conversations and pointing out the same flaws with America and Europe as your ancestors from generations ago? Have you ever read a newspaper from the late 1800's or the early to mid 20th Century? The headlines read exactly as they do today... "Financial Collapse Eminent!", "War Is On The Horizon!", "Inflation Killing The Middle Class!", "Rents Skyrocketing!," "It's Never Been This Bad!," "Government Ripe With Corruption!", "Immigrants Destroying Our Way Of Life!"

It's all so tiresome. Nothing is happening. Nothing you are forecasting will come to fruition in this lifetime. America collapsing? Give me a break.

Exactly spot on.

 

[Cuchulainn]

If you think working conditions and long hours are bad now - 100s of years ago, the great churches of the UK were built with volunteer labour.

Skilled workers, like stonemasons had enough free time to go help build a cathedral on their off days.

Even peasants didn't work everyday of the week.

Skilled workers like blacksmiths and stonemasons could work 3-4 days a week and have comfortable lives.

From my perspective (in the UK) I would never consider working extra hours "to get ahead" of the competition. If I work extra hours over my 37.5 a week it's for the double time that overtime collects.

I work in a medium wage job, and I just took 2 months off this summer (unpaid) to spend time with my toddler while they are at that transition phase (and to do some work on my house) and I didn't have to drop into any of my savings or assets, I just had to plan 6 months ahead.

Taxes wise I pay about 15-20% out of my wages. Private healthcare insurance is so low I don't notice paying for my whole family. Its maybe 3% of my monthly pay. I had one health issue in the past 10 years, I paid for a private consultation to jump the NHS queue (£250) and he put me at the top of his NHS waiting list so the £6000 to get it fixed privately cost nothing and I only had to wait 6-8 weeks for a slot (it wasn't life threatening, just extremely painful) I go private for dental too, just pay as you go, about £200 a year. Over the past decade I got 2 implants (£3000 each), some straightening (about £1500), some whitening (came free with the implants). My toddler goes to that dentist (young children are free, they just bill the NHS).

I work flexible hours so if I go in early or stay late I can accumulate leave hours on top of the 30 days (+12 holiday days) I get a year. I build that up and take a week of every 6 to 8 weeks and head to my holiday home in the north of Southern Ireland (I know that sounds weird, but just look at map) with my family, where I spend my time walking around forest parks, beaches and to the pub, when I'm not sitting in front of the fire, reading a book and burning the now illegal, but still available, national heating source of Ireland (peat aka turf).

On top of that, I take two two-week long holidays somewhere sunny in Europe, where I stay in an Airbnb apartment with a couple of bedrooms, a massive terrace and about 10 steps to a pool.

I have significant assets compared to my peers, but to live like this I work a median wage job, my missus doesn't work, and I don't need to dip into my assets or savings for anything.

I prioritise my family life over my work life and I wouldn't have it any other way. My child, and experiencing his life and growth is more important to me than scaling the ladder at work. I live a good and happy life and I am there for my child's growth milestones and will be for any other children I have.

I honestly don't understand the American way of working. Why work hard for a company that can fire you at anytime, expects you to do extra hours for no compensation, whilst paying half your wages in taxes and health insurance that doesn't even cover you for any health problems you have.

I do understand working for yourself and building your own business and putting the extra graft in, but for someone else, nope.

 

[Get2choppaaa]

If you think working conditions and long hours are bad now - 100s of years ago, the great churches of the UK were built with volunteer labour.

Skilled workers, like stonemasons had enough free time to go help build a cathedral on their off days.

Even peasants didn't work everyday of the week.

Skilled workers like blacksmiths and stonemasons could work 3-4 days a week and have comfortable lives.

From my perspective (in the UK) I would never consider working extra hours "to get ahead" of the competition. If I work extra hours over my 37.5 a week it's for the double time that overtime collects.

I work in a medium wage job, and I just took 2 months off this summer (unpaid) to spend time with my toddler while they are at that transition phase (and to do some work on my house) and I didn't have to drop into any of my savings or assets, I just had to plan 6 months ahead.

Taxes wise I pay about 15-20% out of my wages. Private healthcare insurance is so low I don't notice paying for my whole family. Its maybe 3% of my monthly pay. I had one health issue in the past 10 years, I paid for a private consultation to jump the NHS queue (£250) and he put me at the top of his NHS waiting list so the £6000 to get it fixed privately cost nothing and I only had to wait 6-8 weeks for a slot (it wasn't life threatening, just extremely painful) I go private for dental too, just pay as you go, about £200 a year. Over the past decade I got 2 implants (£3000 each), some straightening (about £1500), some whitening (came free with the implants). My toddler goes to that dentist (young children are free, they just bill the NHS).

I work flexible hours so if I go in early or stay late I can accumulate leave hours on top of the 30 days (+12 holiday days) I get a year. I build that up and take a week of every 6 to 8 weeks and head to my holiday home in the north of Southern Ireland (I know that sounds weird, but just look at map) with my family, where I spend my time walking around forest parks, beaches and to the pub, when I'm not sitting in front of the fire, reading a book and burning the now illegal, but still available, national heating source of Ireland (peat aka turf).

On top of that, I take two two-week long holidays somewhere sunny in Europe, where I stay in an Airbnb apartment with a couple of bedrooms, a massive terrace and about 10 steps to a pool.

I have significant assets compared to my peers, but to live like this I work a median wage job, my missus doesn't work, and I don't need to dip into my assets or savings for anything.

I prioritise my family life over my work life and I wouldn't have it any other way. My child, and experiencing his life and growth is more important to me than scaling the ladder at work. I live a good and happy life and I am there for my child's growth milestones and will be for any other children I have.

I honestly don't understand the American way of working. Why work hard for a company that can fire you at anytime, expects you to do extra hours for no compensation, whilst paying half your wages in taxes and health insurance that doesn't even cover you for any health problems you have.

I do understand working for yourself and building your own business and putting the extra graft in, but for someone else, nope.

It's regional...and there's other perspectives on it.

Taxes in a place like NY or Cali are like 50 percent.

Taxes in a place like Texas are around 24 percent of you're making 200k and married filing combined.

Working in a decent sized company that's not an unattainable salary and many make that by 40 if you're good at what you do. I never worry about getting laid off, I've had it happen before and got a $50k wind all out of it and got a huge pay raise 2 months later when I got a new role.

Working in a big company you also get great health insurance which, at least in my case allows for me to go to any doctor I want, and very low cost.

Hell the amount of work I do now is like nothing compared to what I did in the military so it makes me very thankful to be able to make a very nice living, go on hunting trips, own several nice vehicles, my wife stays at home and takes care of the kids. I can buy generally whatever I want, with in reason, and Im able to sock away a nice retirement as well. I didn't come from wealth but my kids will be left with a lot when I die.

It's cultural for sure. Growing up in an entrepreneur house with my dad owning his own business he works every day 12 hours a day. Even at 73 he's still putting in 8 hour days every day but Sunday and still loves what he's doing.

If you have 7 kids and want to leave them a lot of wealth, and don't come from wealth, there's few places where you're able to do that other than The US. And if you're able to play the corporate game it's a good life.

But not everyone is into that.

 

[Sandalwood Peak]

Working extra hard sounds fun, even to me, if you're working some white collar, performance based, steppingstone, profit-sharing company where their number 1 concern is you getting poached.

Working extra hard doesn't sound fun if you're blue collar, someone's workhorse, tasked with fulfilling the core business, filling in, mandatory OT, and being called in on holidays and weekends because Dickwad Pharmaceuticals need their order shipped ASAP.

Working extra hard is not fun if you're doing dirty jobs in the middle of nowhere, 12 hour continental shifts, coming back to your company bunkhouse in the woods at 9PM with all the other SOB stories who want good money but no one to spend it with.

Working extra hard doesn't sound fun at all if you're an entry level employee, doing menial work for shit pay, while everyone gives you a hard time and nothing to show for it in the bank.

 

[Cuchulainn]

It's regional...and there's other perspectives on it.

Taxes in a place like NY or Cali are like 50 percent.

Taxes in a place like Texas are around 24 percent of you're making 200k and married filing combined.

Working in a decent sized company that's not an unattainable salary and many make that by 40 if you're good at what you do. I never worry about getting laid off, I've had it happen before and got a $50k wind all out of it and got a huge pay raise 2 months later when I got a new role.

Working in a big company you also get great health insurance which, at least in my case allows for me to go to any doctor I want, and very low cost.

Hell the amount of work I do now is like nothing compared to what I did in the military so it makes me very thankful to be able to make a very nice living, go on hunting trips, own several nice vehicles, my wife stays at home and takes care of the kids. I can buy generally whatever I want, with in reason, and Im able to sock away a nice retirement as well. I didn't come from wealth but my kids will be left with a lot when I die.

It's cultural for sure. Growing up in an entrepreneur house with my dad owning his own business he works every day 12 hours a day. Even at 73 he's still putting in 8 hour days every day but Sunday and still loves what he's doing.

If you have 7 kids and want to leave them a lot of wealth, and don't come from wealth, there's few places where you're able to do that other than The US. And if you're able to play the corporate game it's a good life.

But not everyone is into that.

7 kids? i should insert a gif of Benny from Total Recall here.

I earn about a quarter of what you do and I still have very nice stuff and the missus doesn't have to work. Stuff must be a lot cheaper here.

1 more kid and I'm good, would probably have to earn more than now if I had more.

My father was hard working, chasing promotions type and therefore rather absent when I was young, I consider that a mistake and won't repeat that mistake as a father myself.

Maybe having a sizeable nest egg of my own means I am more agreeable to just puttering along in work and enjoying my (family) life, rather than scaling the ladder.

I enjoy my job though, it can be quite shit at times, but it is pretty important, people think it's pretty cool, and it's very flexible and I am very good at it, good enough that I do the most important and serious (and therefore interesting) stuff that passes over our desks. Before becoming a father and the concept of spare time evaporated, I thought about cutting my hours and doing a PHD in it part-time to put some letters before my name as well as after. Maybe I still will sometimes.

 

[Blade Runner]

It's all so tiresome. Nothing is happening. Nothing you are forecasting will come to fruition in this lifetime. America collapsing? Give me a break.

It's already collapsed, bro-ski. That's why we're here. Does that mean that you can't make money anymore? No, but that's increasingly hard for 85% of people, and the group still making it is getting smaller every day.

But I don't need to leave the house to realize that, the charts and graphs here posted by others more than prove it. If you choose to ignore all these factual realities, then that is 100% on you.

I can appreciate that certain things haven't totally gone to shit, but the way the system is designed is that this happens slowly. The poster who talked about the social decay is mostly what we talk about when we talk about "collapse", but as above, I also share the same idea that the only thing holding any of this together at all is the idea that materialism can still persist for a bit.

Again, I am making much more money this year in America working less hours than I did last year and therefore I'm experiencing deflation (i.e. things for me are getting cheaper).

So am I. That doesn't mean things are good for the country. And no, that's not what deflation means, lol

I honestly don't understand the American way of working. Why work hard for a company that can fire you at anytime, expects you to do extra hours for no compensation, whilst paying half your wages in taxes and health insurance that doesn't even cover you for any health problems you have.

There are good things here, going of course in the wrong direction, and you have good things there, but your system is almost dead. Socialism trades decent or good for many for the quashing of outstanding people and mobility in classes.

7 kids? i should insert a gif of Benny from Total Recall here.

Haha!

Awwww maaaaan!

 

[Northumber]

It's already collapsed, bro-ski. That's why we're here. Does that mean that you can't make money anymore? No, but that's increasingly hard for 85% of people, and the group still making it is getting smaller every day.

I'm almost positive this is true. My experience is anecdotal but I've seen that you have to be very clever at gaming the system (while being intrinsically virtuous) to have a decent life now.

Granted, there is a largish group of people out there who I'd call part of "the investor class" now, that can help their families along monetarily. But, if you are working class it's getting exceedingly difficult and out of reach.

The culture does not catch you like it did 20 years ago. If you "go with the flow" as a family, you'll be wondering why your nice innocent kids are now interested in dressing up as furries and lopping their genitals off. It's real. It's either that or all they care about (and are offered by society) is the hope of the pleasures of a consumptive/masturbatory lifestyle. There is no real meaning to be found in general culture.

 

[Douglas Quaid]

Working extra hard sounds fun, even to me, if you're working some white collar, performance based, steppingstone, profit-sharing company where their number 1 concern is you getting poached.

Working extra hard doesn't sound fun if you're blue collar, someone's workhorse, tasked with fulfilling the core business, filling in, mandatory OT, and being called in on holidays and weekends because Dickwad Pharmaceuticals need their order shipped ASAP.

Working extra hard is not fun if you're doing dirty jobs in the middle of nowhere, 12 hour continental shifts, coming back to your company bunkhouse in the woods at 9PM with all the other SOB stories who want good money but no one to spend it with.

Working extra hard doesn't sound fun at all if you're an entry level employee, doing menial work for shit pay, while everyone gives you a hard time and nothing to show for it in the bank.

This is very true. I am trying out a sales job and for the first month they make new employees help the service team, so no sales. The mentality going into work when you can start making sales and eventually more money on top of the salary is like a 180. Phone calls become a lot less irritating. Working hard is great. Working hard without any reward for it is for suckers.

I actually miss manual labor, but being someone else's mule while they get rich and some miserable bastard barks orders at you was getting old.

 

[Blade Runner]

Granted, there is a largish group of people out there who I'd call part of "the investor class" now, that can help their families along monetarily. But, if you are working class it's getting exceedingly difficult and out of reach.

I'm probably part of that class. I find the "dream" clowny though, because it's so manipulative of people and especially of women. God does use everything for good, I just find it somewhat absurd that you can be successful and finding quality pretty much anywhere in life at this point is quite difficult.

 

[Northumber]

I'm probably part of that class. I find the "dream" clowny though, because it's so manipulative of people and especially of women. God does use everything for good, I just find it somewhat absurd that you can be successful and finding quality pretty much anywhere in life at this point is quite difficult.

I was too unfocused and too naive to get myself there. But the way things are now, I agree things are absurd. I don't think we exist in anything close to natural. That being said, what is the saying? "be as wise as serpents and innocent as doves". I think we are essentially forced to (as an only option) to game the system where we can and be God's instrument for good within that. It's very difficult to parse out in life though, given our tendency to "have our cake and eat it too". Which is why, I believe, culture is in this mess.

 

[Blade Runner]

I think we are essentially forced to (as an only option) to game the system where we can and be God's instrument for good within that.

I wouldn't call it "gaming" the system, that suggests that we are doing something wrong or sneaky, untoward. It's really just playing by the rules the others, who really control the game and its shenanigans, play by. Within that role and with some shrewdness, we'll be judged by what we do with our talent, treasure, clout, etc.

It is amazing if you aren't a guy who believes that modernity and its chaos such be rewarded (I don't get the personality of guys, for example, that are OK basically with the inverted role of their wives having more say and power than they), there isn't much for you beyond some freedom and comfort. I think a calling to help others might be what most of the secret will is that we have to figure out for ourselves. As we've said for many years now, it's hard to give up on the women and family thing if you have some resources to go to other place, the only real option. That is, when you aren't called for a monastic life. It should be interesting to see how the "elders" of the church deal with the ongoing and further, incoming onslaught of single people that will be present in the 2030s. I'm laughing as I type this because I find the avoidance of the topic (by priests, bishops, etc), especially the fruits of feminism right in front of them, to be ridiculous. To me it's just another example of other people, and married people generically, just not having much to say interest-wise, or turning inward as they age and relative indifference to structural issues.

 

[PurpleUrkel]

It's already collapsed...

We must have different definitions of the word collapse. When I think of something being "collapsed" I think of The Twin Towers or Charleton Heston losing his mind at a half buried Statue Of Liberty at the end of Planet Of The Apes.

When I think of something like a city collapsing I think of Johannesburg where none of the stoplights work because the blacks have stripped them of all their wire and where every white person has been robbed and had their home invaded and vehicles stolen several times over.

In contrast, where I live in America I see no signs of collapse. Every stop light works, there are literally no potholes in the roads, and I have never been robbed, much less had my home broken into or my vehicle stolen. I see many concerning things around me in America that make me angry, but nothing I haven't been able to avoid or come up with a solution to. I am making enough money and have enough medium-high IQ skills to filter out (i.e. avoid) the bad things about America which allows me to focus on the good. This is not by chance or because I'm "lucky." It's because I work not just hard, but smart, and because I am comfortable sleeping in my car (which is what I had to do for two years to get my business off the ground).

That doesn't mean things are good for the country.

This doesn't really mean anything as we are not genetically wired to focus on "the country." We shouldn't focus on macrosystem future events that may or may not happen and that we have no control over.

Our brains can only handle so much localized information, we were not built to take in the world's problems and information and therefore many of us are experiencing a chronic sense of depression via sensory overload.

"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference."

And no, that's not what deflation means, lol

It's a figure of speech to existentially state that I define my own reality. My expectations for money and material possessions were always very low and I currently have more than I ever dreamed of or desired. And so for me not to be economically experiencing the difference between $4 a dozen organic eggs and $6 a dozen organic eggs is economic freedom realized and the furthest thing from a "collapse." I lived for 40 years always being down to my last $20 and now in 2025 I never have less than a $1000 cash just laying around the house. I think Charlie Sheen called this "Winning!"?

It's all a matter of perspective. You call it a "collapse," I call it a "rebirth." In our own minds we are both right.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

We must have different definitions of the word collapse. When I think of something being "collapsed" I think of The Twin Towers or Charleton Heston losing his mind at a half buried Statue Of Liberty at the end of Planet Of The Apes.

When I think of something like a city collapsing I think of Johannesburg where none of the stoplights work because the blacks have stripped them of all their wire and where every white person has been robbed and had their home invaded and vehicles stolen several times over.

In contrast, where I live in America I see no signs of collapse. Every stop light works, there are literally no potholes in the roads, and I have never been robbed, much less had my home broken into or my vehicle stolen. I see many concerning things around me in America that make me angry, but nothing I haven't been able to avoid or come up with a solution to. I am making enough money and have enough medium-high IQ skills to filter out (i.e. avoid) the bad things about America which allows me to focus on the good. This is not by chance or because I'm "lucky." It's because I work not just hard, but smart, and because I am comfortable sleeping in my car (which is what I had to do for two years to get my business off the ground).


This doesn't really mean anything as we are not genetically wired to focus on "the country." We shouldn't focus on macrosystem future events that may or may not happen and that we have no control over.

"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference."


It's a figure of speech to existentially state that I define my own reality. My expectations for money and material possessions were always very low and I currently have more than I ever dreamed of or desired. And so for me not to be economically experiencing the difference between $4 a dozen organic eggs and $6 a dozen organic eggs is economic freedom realized and the furthest thing from a "collapse." I lived for 40 years always being down to my last $20 and now in 2025 I never have less than a $1000 cash just laying around the house. I think Charlie Sheen called this "Winning!"?

It's all a matter of perspective. You call it a "collapse," I call it a "rebirth." In our own minds we are both right.

If it hasn't happened to you yet, it will soon, the crime is spreading like a cancer. I could have said the same thing up until a few years ago. Just avoid the bad areas of town. Now, thanks to immigration, and govt. housing, the bad areas of town is spreading to every corner of town.

As far as having money, do you have enough to not have to work? If not, then that can all disappear tomorrow. And if you are keeping your wealth in USD, it is decreasing in value by the day. If not, what are you invested in to avoid the reality of inflation?

 

[Australia Sucks]

It's already collapsed, bro-ski. That's why we're here. Does that mean that you can't make money anymore? No, but that's increasingly hard for 85% of people, and the group still making it is getting smaller every day.

Exactly this. 30 or 40 years ago any moron could become middle class or even better just by not fucking things up. These days you have to be smart and work hard just to get to middle class.

Just as in the same way just literally in our parents generation the average man could get a young, thin, virgin wife, whereas now a man has to be lucky or top tier to get a young, thin, virgin wife.

Purple Urckel the fact is that in the current system its much harder for the average person. For some people with the smarts, ability and foresight there are more opportunities than ever before e.g. AI, cryptocurrency, online business, etc but if you just look at how the majority is doing then things continue to deteriorate whether you look at home ownership rates for people under 40, age of first marriage, the purchasing power of people's incomes and whatever other metrics you care to look at objectively things are getting worse for the bottom 80% of society. Now many on this forum are in the top 20% of society and are doing just fine but we shouldn't extrapolate our own personal situation onto the broader population.

 

[Australia Sucks]

In contrast, where I live in America I see no signs of collapse. Every stop light works, there are literally no potholes in the roads, and I have never been robbed, much less had my home broken into or my vehicle stolen. I see many concerning things around me in America that make me angry, but nothing I haven't been able to avoid or come up with a solution to. I am making enough money and have enough medium-high IQ skills to filter out (i.e. avoid) the bad things about America which allows me to focus on the good. This is not by chance or because I'm "lucky." It's because I work not just hard, but smart, and because I am comfortable sleeping in my car (which is what I had to do for two years to get my business off the ground).

As Blade Runner alluded to the western world is in a "frog in boiling water" slow style collapse. They do this so the population doesn't panic or push back. They just slowly reduce people's freedom and cut the standard of living in half every 30 years (for the average person, the top 20% are doing fine) in western countries. Again there is still opportunity left in America and other western countries for people who are smart, work hard and can understand the system but you need to acknowledge the bottom 80% of the population are going backwards that is just a fact.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

As Blade Runner alluded to the western world is in a "frog in boiling water" slow style collapse. They do this so the population doesn't panic or push back. They just slowly reduce people's freedom and cut the standard of living in half every 30 years (for the average person, the top 20% are doing fine) in western countries. Again there is still opportunity left in America and other western countries for people who are smart, work hard and can understand the system but you need to acknowledge the bottom 80% of the population are going backwards that is just a fact.

The first attempt was Bolshevism, the stick. They forced their will on the people, via commissars who were legally allowed to rape the women and throw people in the gulag for protesting against it. The took ownership of all the land. And saw the enemy as the kulaks, who were the middle class and land-owning farmers at that time.

The entire system collapsed upon itself, because the people didn't buy into it and at the end of the day the satanic elites need work horses.

So now comes capitalism, aka the carrot. All the same things are happening, but at a slower pace, the people pushing it hide behind "democracy", and it is able to get the middle class to be convinced that "at least I am making it". Rather than commissars, we now have third world rape gangs. Rather than gulags, we arrest people and sentence them to years in prison for peaceful protest and then let rapers and murders go free. Rather than strong arm taking the land and resources, it is done via a corrupt "free market system", and now Wall Street is buying up land and homes at a record level. Rather than a state mandated control, you have one party that supports all the social filth and the other party pushing individualism and "at least I got mine" as evident of conservative posters in this very thread.

The result is the same, the pace is just slower. The hope is they can replace the White middle class with an Indian middle class that will be much more compliant and expect less in return and more loyal to their satanic plans. Once this is done, you will see BLM and Hispanic organization come to a screeching halt, as they will no longer be needed to attack Whites and destroy the middle class. The Indians will work for far less, and be very happy for it.

The big question is, will BRICS challenge this down the road when this makes the west incredibly weaker.

 

[Australia Sucks]

The hope is they can replace the White middle class with an Indian middle class that will be much more compliant and expect less in return and more loyal to their satanic plans.

I assume the long term plan is to replace most people with AI and robots (depopulation agenda) and anything else is just an interim measure. The Indians are just there to demoralize everybody and destroy social cohesion. You cannot get a functioning society out of Indians because they are too incompetent, corrupt and lack morals (I mean on average of course it doesn't necessarily apply at individual level).

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

I assume the long term plan is to replace most people with AI and robots (depopulation agenda) and anything else is just an interim measure. The Indians are just there to demoralize everybody and destroy social cohesion. You cannot get a functioning society out of Indians because they are too incompetent, corrupt and lack morals (I mean on average of course it doesn't necessarily apply at individual level).

Correct, the long term plan is to replace us with AI and then robotics. I watch a lot of financial news, and they talk about this all the time, but when anyone brings up the topic of "what will people do for labor" it is ignored and never answered.

Right now, OpenAI, along with other tech leaders (Oracle, AMD, etc.) are making huge moves. And they are saying they will need to build new electricity plans to power about 20 million households just to run these AI centers.

The Indians are just the lower IQ stop gap. High enough IQ to be somewhat competent, not high enough IQ to see the bigger picture.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]