Decline of Functioning Society

Having a strong work ethnic is not a sigh of evil, I agree.

Telling others they must work long hours, to get rich, which is both untrue, and not a virtue, is the root of the conservatism message evil.

Getting rid of illegals is a start, we must get rid of a lot of legals as well, as the Indians turn our businesses upside down and turn them into Indian slave labor sweet shops via H-1B visas and outsourcing.

Working 40 hours a week, to make the satanic elite wealthier, is a wasted life, but we have no choice as well.
Again people can choose to do what they want. You working more for more money means you benefit also.

What we SHOULD have happen and what is reality are not the same thing, and I agree with you on the immigration issue. Legal and illegal.

That said...Even if it wasn't necessary, the majority of super successful folks are going to do more than 40 hours work, especially if you're role is in operations or generating revenue.
 
Again people can choose to do what they want. You working more for more money means you benefit also.

What we SHOULD have happen and what is reality are not the same thing, and I agree with you on the immigration issue. Legal and illegal.

That said...Even if it wasn't necessary, the majority of super successful folks are going to do more than 40 hours work, especially if you're role is in operations or generating revenue.
No, people cannot choose, those days are over. Most people are forced to work extremely long hours to barely keep their head above water until they finally burn out and crash. I see this all the time, I have this discussion with so many people from so many backgrounds.

I am fine with people wanting to work 70 hours a week to be super successful. I am not fine with people working 40 hours a week and being told it isn't enough, when in fact it is really too much and they should work less and enjoy their lives and find true purpose.
 

Not sure what you're trying to say here.

The simplest explanation is usually the best one. That's what Occam's Razor means.

Stop having a hard time with reading comprehension and conceptual principles in argument.
The simplest explanation of simpleton mindset is like when someone calls an argument retarded. It’s not the person who’s retarded it’s the argument.
Your whining does read like someone disgruntled and not drinking from the straw or abundance.

I still believe voting matters.
You want people to do nothing and take the black pill and let the other side win because they are still going to vote.

Your want the self licking ice cream cone pity party of despair.
People can vote but it won’t matter. People need to realize the uniparty in America is real.


Holy shit you have a lazy person's mindset.

If you want to work 40 hours go ahead. But don't expect that you're gonna be rich doing the bare minimum.

People who are really successful tend to be consumed by their work and be passionate about it...

I can only assume you're unfulfilled by your work but I don't know.

I love doing what I'm doing for a living. I'm incredibly good at it and I find great value and fulfillment in providing a very comfortable life for my very large family as well as having my ego invested in being successful in my work endeavors.

If that makes me a slave then I suppose I'm guilty. But when I'm 65 with a very very large nest egg and fuck you money I'm pretty sure its quite the opposite of slavery.

This mindset right here, this is the root of the evil of capitalism and conservatism in the west, and it must be crushed.

We shouldn't even have to work 40 hours a week, and we wouldn't if we didn't import third worlders and constantly bailout Wall Street. But even at that, working 40, 50, 60 hours a week isn't enough for most people. Forget getting rich, most are working 40+ hours to just barely keep their head above water.

Who cares about "getting rich", life should be about enjoyment and purpose, not working like a slave for satanic elites to "get rich".
But as far as not working 40 hours a week... I suppose you'd like UBI and the European model?
Europeans work 32 hours per week and do just fine. UBI or welfare for non-workers or immigrants is BS but Europeans live a relaxed lifestyle without having to work their tails off and can dedicate more time to living their lives.
 
Europeans work 32 hours per week and do just fine. UBI or welfare for non-workers or immigrants is BS but Europeans live a relaxed lifestyle without having to work their tails off and can dedicate more time to living their lives.
Yes, if Europeans ran their own countries and kept the third worlders out, they probably would be able to work even less and discover/advance technology and healthcare to a level not dreamed of.

You either have dysgenics or eugenics, and no matter how many hours you work, you cannot beat a growing dysgenic population.

Not to even mention the need for either UBI or a mass reduction of population if AI technology comes online and replaces everyone's job.
 
Europeans work 32 hours per week and do just fine. UBI or welfare for non-workers or immigrants is BS but Europeans live a relaxed lifestyle without having to work their tails off and can dedicate more time to living their lives.

Ive worked in multiple international companies. Europeans are paid shit. Same job in the US for 100k is paid 50k in Italy. Their productivity is nothing like Americans.

They also have huge tax burdens and social welfare obligations. The European model only works currently because of their importation of cheap labor.

Talk about collapse, Europe is the model. Check out London and France right now. Seems like a great model to emulate.

Glad you could disabuse us of our capitalist greed by showing us the light of the EU model.

Youre not making a compelling argument for people who want to get wealthy right now through hard work and dedication.

Just bitching about how you think you should have more time to do more work life balance stuff and want to work less.

I mean if it floats your boat I guess go ahead.

I'm just glad to live in a capitalist country where my freedom and work ethic is rewarded financially.
 
Ive worked in multiple international companies. Europeans are paid shit. Same job in the US for 100k is paid 50k in Italy. Their productivity is nothing like Americans.
They also have huge tax burdens and social welfare obligations. The European model only works currently because of their importation of cheap labor.
Talk about collapse, Europe is the model. Check out London and France right now. Seems like a great model to emulate.
Glad you cold disabuse us of our capitalist greed by showing us the light of the EU model.
Youre not making a compelling argument for people who want to get wealthy right now through hard work and dedication.
Just bitching about how you think you should have more time to do more work life balance stuff and want to work less.
I mean if it floats your boat I guess go ahead.
I'm just glad to live in a capitalist country where my freedom and work ethic is rewarded financially.


In Italy you don't have to pay for healthcare, health insurance, good schools, college and the food is cheaper and much better quality. Property taxes are a lot lower as well. For a family of 2-3 kids, it is a wash.

The main issue is deindustrialization, but that's more of a function of top down EU policies and blind obedience to the NATO agenda cutting off cheap Russian gas and the Chinese market, promoting mass immigration, than about not being capitalistic enough.
 
You can't complain about the middle class, immigration and not being able to afford a home then use Europe as an example of how you want things to be....come on.
Europe isn't controlled by Europeans, so modern day Europe is not an example of anything different, the people there are just better educated on history and philosophy and less likely to be consumed with materialism and consumerism. So, they don't see the point in working long hours just to buy things. But yea, the same satanic elites see a major problem with this and are importing people to replace them with, just as they have done elsewhere. Soon, they will have no choice, like the Americans do, to either work long hours or go without.
 
^As well mass immigration in Europe is worse because most of the immigrants in the US are Christians.

Europe isn't controlled by Europeans, so modern day Europe is not an example of anything different, the people there are just better educated on history and philosophy and less likely to be consumed with materialism and consumerism. So, they don't see the point in working long hours just to buy things. But yea, the same satanic elites see a major problem with this and are importing people to replace them with, just as they have done elsewhere. Soon, they will have no choice, like the Americans do, to either work long hours or go without.

Case in point: Germany raising retirement age in order to pay for war against Russia and the cutting off of cheap Russian gas and the large Russian market:

 
Guys, not sure how old everyone here is but you do realize that you are having the same conversations and pointing out the same flaws with America and Europe as your ancestors from generations ago? Have you ever read a newspaper from the late 1800's or the early to mid 20th Century? The headlines read exactly as they do today... "Financial Collapse Eminent!", "War Is On The Horizon!", "Inflation Killing The Middle Class!", "Rents Skyrocketing!," "It's Never Been This Bad!," "Government Ripe With Corruption!", "Immigrants Destroying Our Way Of Life!"

It's all so tiresome. Nothing is happening. Nothing you are forecasting will come to fruition in this lifetime. America collapsing? Give me a break.
 
Guys, not sure how old everyone here is but you do realize that you are having the same conversations and pointing out the same flaws with America and Europe as your ancestors from generations ago? Have you ever read a newspaper from the late 1800's or early 20th Century? The headlines read exactly as they do today... "Financial Collapse Eminent!", "War Is On The Horizon!", "Inflation Killing The Middle Class!", "Rents Skyrocketing!," "It's Never Been This Bad!," "Government Ripe With Corruption!", "Immigrants Destroying Our Way Of Life!"

It's all so tiresome. Nothing is happening. Nothing you are forecasting will come to fruition in this lifetime. America collapsing? Give me a break.
I am plenty old enough to remember when this country was actually a good place to live and offered a future for its citizens, and I am young enough to talk to young people and know that this is nothing like what you are describing. But I don't need to leave the house to realize that, the charts and graphs here posted by others more than prove it. If you choose to ignore all these factual realities, then that is 100% on you.
 
I am plenty old enough to remember when this country was actually a good place to live and offered a future for its citizens, and I am young enough to talk to young people and know that this is nothing like what you are describing. But I don't need to leave the house to realize that, the charts and graphs here posted by others more than prove it. If you choose to ignore all these factual realities, then that is 100% on you.
Yes, I choose to ignore all the charts and graphs because they are psyops put forth by the usual suspects in an effort to demoralize men who wish to wallow in a defeatest mentality. And by the looks of it (((they're))) doing a bang up job.

Again, I am making much more money this year in America working less hours than I did last year and therefore I'm experiencing deflation (i.e. things for me are getting cheaper). This is not up for debate. If you are losing in America in 2025 then it's because you are a loser. Being a loser does not have to be a permanent state of being. Losers can become winners but first they have to admit that they are losers. I was a loser for 35 years until 2019 when I finally pulled my head out of my ass, admitted what I was doing wasn't working, became an entrepreneur, and started working 80 hours a week to achieve a goal. Now my business is successful, stable, and growing, and now I'm back down to 40 hours a week with lots of free time to pursue my hobbies. This is what we call, "the opposite of a collapse."

To reiterate, in many ways I'm still a loser because you can't teach an old dog new tricks, but I made enough positive changes in my thoughts and actions to financially and materially overcome all the obstacles that the American government and society has put in my way. And if I can do it, anybody can. No excuses.
 
Yes, I choose to ignore all the charts and graphs because they are psyops put forth by the usual suspects in an effort to demoralize men who wish to wallow in a defeatest mentality. And by the looks of it (((they're))) doing a bang up job.

Again, I am making much more money this year in America working less hours than I did last year and therefore I'm experiencing deflation (i.e. things for me are getting cheaper). This is not up for debate. If you are losing in America in 2025 then it's because you are a loser. Being a loser does not have to be a permanent state of being. Losers can become winners but first they have to admit that they are losers. I was a loser for 35 years until 2019 when I finally pulled my head out of my ass, admitted what I was doing wasn't working, became an entrepreneur, and started working 80 hours a week to achieve a goal. Now my business is successful, stable, and growing, and now I'm back down to 40 hours a week with lots of free time to pursue my hobbies. This is what we call, "the opposite of a collapse."

To reiterate, in many ways I'm still a loser because you can't teach an old dog new tricks, but I made enough positive changes in my thoughts and actions to financially and materially overcome all the obstacles that the American government and society has put in my way. And if I can do it, anybody can. No excuses.
There is no response to this. When factual evidence cannot sway you, then it is no longer a peaceful discussion or debate.
 
Europeans work 32 hours per week and do just fine.

Not taking any side in this discussion, but check Your sources.
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Edit: Average weekly working hours in US states. US Bureau of Labor Statistics
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