They don't see it like that. Especially when our own citizens forced communism on them and sent their nationalist leaders running to Taiwan and elsewhere.
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Are you aware that Marco Polo went over the Silk Road to China 700 plus years ago and before that, the Genghis Khan had conquered from Mongolia all the way to the Danube? Maybe the Chinese learned a lesson from their northern neighbor, not soon to be forgotten?
Why do you project your culture and way of thinking on everyone else??
The US was supposedly allies with the Chiang Kai-shek nationalist government in China. The problem was that the US government and agencies were riddled, top to bottom, with Soviet agents, usually Jewish. They made sure that the promised aid and weapons to fight off the communist insurgency was endlessly delayed or lost. So, the commies won. The US effectively betrayed China.
Yes, I am aware. So, now answer this simple question of mine.
When White people no longer exist in any real sense, who will stop the Chinese from taking the west?
Exactly, and they know this very well. The Chinese I have met know US history far better than 99% of Americans I know, and they certainly know their own history as well. They can't do anything about it right now, but one day that will no longer be the case due to third world immigration into the west.
Obviously they can do what they want in the scenario you describe, no one is disputing that. The point is that they have no reason to, but you refuse to admit this.
I don't think you are discussing in good faith, so good day to you sir.
What do you mean they have no reason to do so? The west is full of valuable resources, that will be completely wasted if not run by an organized and civilized society. Are you suggesting they will be the first humans, of all time, to say "nah, we don't need that, we can just let other tribes take it and waste it". This scenario has never happened in human history.
To give you an example, I was reading a book that continued to repeat "I had to earn my daily bread" and the first 5 or so times I read it, I thought "yea, I remember that from church" though it wasn't a religious book. It was set in the early turn of the 20th century. Then it hit me, for a long time having enough food was a daily stress for humans because land is very valuable and the only reason we meet our needs right now it is all chemical based poison. To get real solid food, for a large population, takes a lot of land. And let's not even get into the other rare minerals that are houses in the lands of the west.
A lot of westerners take a lot for granted. Talking to the Chinese, they don't, they face the harsh realities, and they will be thrilled to take this land and make it theirs for their posterity.
According to our FLG friend at Zerohedge and where we get our ever so reliable economic analysis on China 
, Xi has been demoted and had underwent a coup.
China resolves the Polish China-Europe Railway blockage via bypass through new Arctic Sea route as Poland attempts blackmail against doing trade with Russia.
After Trump bailed out Argentinian Libertarian paradise with $20billion USD, Argentina goes ahead and sell Soy to China leaving US Soy Farmers holding the bag again.
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, Xi has been demoted and had underwent a coup.China resolves the Polish China-Europe Railway blockage via bypass through new Arctic Sea route as Poland attempts blackmail against doing trade with Russia.
After Trump bailed out Argentinian Libertarian paradise with $20billion USD, Argentina goes ahead and sell Soy to China leaving US Soy Farmers holding the bag again.
Argentina’s soy exports to China soar, angering US
China’s soybean buyers turn to Argentina after tax drop, leaving US farmers sidelined and Washington unhappy.
www.scmp.com
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Slightly off-topic, but there's more nuance. Poland's decision to close the Polish-Belarusian border without warning left something like 1500 Polish truckers stranded on the other side of the border. Know a couple of guys who got stuck there - they were pissed as hell (to put it gently), as every day was costing them money and their companies could be held liable for unfulfilled contracts.
But back to the topic.
China was already gunning for the Northern Sea Route, even without this hassle with Poland. Maritime shipping, while more expensive for a single container, is much more profitable than road and rail in the grand scheme of things - a single truck can carry up to 2 TEU (twenty-foot equivalent units), a EU compliant freight train around 150 TEU, while containerships can carry tens of thousands of TEU (the Arctic Express service will use "smaller" ships: "Istanbul Bridge" which departed China last week carries only up to 4,900 TEU).
China Expands Global Trade Network with Launch of First ‘Arctic Express’ Container Service
Around a decade after shipping giant COSCO sent its first merchant ship across Russia’s Northern Sea Route, Chinese operator Sealegend is looking to make history with the launch of the first “Arctic Express” – an 18-day routing from Ningbo, China to Felixstowe, UK.
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Some infotainment on the building of the bridge and the people around the area (13:39)
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@Cooper
I appreciate your commitment to CiK, even if I don't agree with some things you claim. Indeed, I encourage members to share a range of opinions here, ideally in a calm, frank, and well-reasoned manner backed by credible evidence.
It seems that you like sharing a belief akin to "Rotten is the West, China is the best". As you're one of the most prolific contributers here, I'm curious about your reason and purpose for this mission, because the why isn't so clear.
I don't know if any CiK members live in China (?), except for one in HK. Also, I don't know if any members have the motivation and capacity to move there (?). So it's uncertain what CiK members are meant to do with this information.
As for your reason, maybe you... lived in China and loved it? Fell in love with a Chinese woman? Despise your Western-based circumstances and see China as the best alternative? Admire Chinese societal and ideological organisation?
As for your purpose... is this all just for intellectual interest and knowledge for its own sake? Like, watching a documentary about tanks in WW2 may be fascinating -- albeit not something we can practically use.
And/or are you trying to make a dent in the world by activating Westerners' behaviour to... use Chinese ways to remodel western institutions? Invest in Chinese businesses or use Chinese technology? Court Chinese women for wives? Move or travel to China? Etc.
Note that whatever your reason and purpose are, that's okay. I'm not here to judge or attempt to change your mind. It would still be useful for myself and the readers to understand some context for your posts. Thanks for sharing.
I appreciate your commitment to CiK, even if I don't agree with some things you claim. Indeed, I encourage members to share a range of opinions here, ideally in a calm, frank, and well-reasoned manner backed by credible evidence.
It seems that you like sharing a belief akin to "Rotten is the West, China is the best". As you're one of the most prolific contributers here, I'm curious about your reason and purpose for this mission, because the why isn't so clear.
I don't know if any CiK members live in China (?), except for one in HK. Also, I don't know if any members have the motivation and capacity to move there (?). So it's uncertain what CiK members are meant to do with this information.
As for your reason, maybe you... lived in China and loved it? Fell in love with a Chinese woman? Despise your Western-based circumstances and see China as the best alternative? Admire Chinese societal and ideological organisation?
As for your purpose... is this all just for intellectual interest and knowledge for its own sake? Like, watching a documentary about tanks in WW2 may be fascinating -- albeit not something we can practically use.
And/or are you trying to make a dent in the world by activating Westerners' behaviour to... use Chinese ways to remodel western institutions? Invest in Chinese businesses or use Chinese technology? Court Chinese women for wives? Move or travel to China? Etc.
Note that whatever your reason and purpose are, that's okay. I'm not here to judge or attempt to change your mind. It would still be useful for myself and the readers to understand some context for your posts. Thanks for sharing.
@Cooper
I appreciate your commitment to CiK, even if I don't agree with some things you claim. Indeed, I encourage members to share a range of opinions here, ideally in a calm, frank, and well-reasoned manner backed by credible evidence.
It seems that you like sharing a belief akin to "Rotten is the West, China is the best". As you're one of the most prolific contributers here, I'm curious about your reason and purpose for this mission, because the why isn't so clear.
I don't know if any CiK members live in China (?), except for one in HK. Also, I don't know if any members have the motivation and capacity to move there (?). So it's uncertain what CiK members are meant to do with this information.
As for your reason, maybe you... lived in China and loved it? Fell in love with a Chinese woman? Despise your Western-based circumstances and see China as the best alternative? Admire Chinese societal and ideological organisation?
As for your purpose... is this all just for intellectual interest and knowledge for its own sake? Like, watching a documentary about tanks in WW2 may be fascinating -- albeit not something we can practically use.
And/or are you trying to make a dent in the world by activating Westerners' behaviour to... use Chinese ways to remodel western institutions? Invest in Chinese businesses or use Chinese technology? Court Chinese women for wives? Move or travel to China? Etc.
Note that whatever your reason and purpose are, that's okay. I'm not here to judge or attempt to change your mind. It would still be useful for myself and the readers to understand some context for your posts. Thanks for sharing.
Excellent questions, I will take the time to answer later as it is a pretty good and fairly wide subject
It really is a good question, I look forward to your answers.
As for me, I fell into a situation where I ended up having a Chinese roommate for over a decade straight. I have always been interested in other cultures, as I have seen the USA as a weird capitalist hellhole for 25+ years, and I know there has to be better ways to live life than running everyone into the ground.
Getting to know Chinese people, via my roommate, was a great experience. As a White person, there is no way I would want to live how the Chinese live. But I fully appreciate that China is mostly of their creation and the way they think and behave leads to a society that is what we see in China today. They are super logical and not soft hearted and weak like the Whites are. They understand engineering and technology is way more important than finance.
With all that said, I also can see that when White people are gone, and that isn't far away, there is no other group that can even challenge the Chinese, much less contain them, as Whites have done for the last few hundred years. Sure, the Japanese and Koreans can probably protect themselves and keep up, due to similar IQ's and life choices, so China can go for softer and larger targets and work out deals with them. The Russians and Iranians are behind China's advances, but they will be able to defend their own. Also, with the recent situation, China has been allies and trading partners with these two.
But once the west is comprised of a majority of non-White people, it is over for the west. There is no way possible that countries comprised of 90 IQ scam artists, 85 IQ roofers, and 80 IQ violent criminals, can hold up for even a week v. the Chinese. This is so obviously clear, to deny it by now is just to deny reality. It brings me great peace to know that if Whites do want to commit mass suicide, that the next boss isn't going to put up with this third world dysgenic out breeding good people nonsense.
Fair response.
Let me translate for the readers, given my level 4 Chinese skills (你好):
For real though, if you caught the fever, don't worry. We listen and we don't judge.
@Cooper
I appreciate your commitment to CiK, even if I don't agree with some things you claim. Indeed, I encourage members to share a range of opinions here, ideally in a calm, frank, and well-reasoned manner backed by credible evidence.
It seems that you like sharing a belief akin to "Rotten is the West, China is the best". As you're one of the most prolific contributers here, I'm curious about your reason and purpose for this mission, because the why isn't so clear.
I don't know if any CiK members live in China (?), except for one in HK. Also, I don't know if any members have the motivation and capacity to move there (?). So it's uncertain what CiK members are meant to do with this information.
As for your reason, maybe you... lived in China and loved it? Fell in love with a Chinese woman? Despise your Western-based circumstances and see China as the best alternative? Admire Chinese societal and ideological organisation?
As for your purpose... is this all just for intellectual interest and knowledge for its own sake? Like, watching a documentary about tanks in WW2 may be fascinating -- albeit not something we can practically use.
And/or are you trying to make a dent in the world by activating Westerners' behaviour to... use Chinese ways to remodel western institutions? Invest in Chinese businesses or use Chinese technology? Court Chinese women for wives? Move or travel to China? Etc.
Note that whatever your reason and purpose are, that's okay. I'm not here to judge or attempt to change your mind. It would still be useful for myself and the readers to understand some context for your posts. Thanks for sharing.
I think China has a positive influence on the West as a disruptive force on the ((control grid)). Take the AI project that is being planned by sociopaths like Altman, Zuckerberg, Ellison, Karp and co. They wanted to set up a new digital panopticon monopoly along the lines of Microsoft or Google. Well the Chinese blew that project out of the water with DeepSeek.
Look at the TikTok case, which used to be a fairly free platform, redpilling Gen Z, until ((they)) shut it down. Another instance of Chinese tech disrupting the control grid, though in that case that disruption was eventually sidelined.
Without that outside force that they can no longer control today, their project of total world domination would have had a much greater chance of succeeding. China and Russia today are playing the same role as the West did in taking down the Soviet world, where people behind the iron curtain knew that things were better on the other side (not that the West didn't have its flaws, as pointed out by Solzhenitsyn).
China is exposing the flaws in the globalist monetary system, built on usury, resulting in the economic exploitation and outright destruction of the middle classes through runaway housing, healthcare, education, transport and food costs. This has been a widely observed phenomenon on Redbook. China has very little inflation because they don't print money out of thin air and charge interest for that privilege, their economy is based on industrial capitalism, which is similar to what we had before the Fed.
China also has a positive impact in terms of blowing wide open technologies that have been suppressed in the West, like thorium nuclear energy, and fusion in a couple of decades, western tech that has been sidelined for decades. Their contribution is going to get us much closer to Nikola Tesla's vision of energy too cheap to meter later this century.
We live in a highly propagandized society that has been run along Straussian lines, one which is ideologically held together through fear of outsiders, with a modern national myths based on an omnipresent foreign threat. During the Cold War it was the commies, and with the false flags of 9/11 it was the Muslims. You also had the same Straussian dynamic during the plandemic where the unvaxed "conspiracy theorists" and science "deniers" were the ennemies. For the majority of normies the last decade especially on the left it was Russia, which is somehow simultaneously a dysfunctional "gas station with nukes" and a massive threat to "our democracy" with Darth Putin conspiring against the West. Today with the pendulum shifting to the right China is emerging as the main outside enemy to be feared.
I am a bit of a sinophile, but do manage to keep some perspective as an outsider, and not to the point of thinking that Chinese civilization is superior to Western civilization, particularly because their civilization was not built on Christianity. However as our elites are highly compromised, Chinese values today are better than the Crowleyan values that pervade our culture and political system. What sets them apart today is that their leaders are competent nationalists who genuinely care about their country and their people. We haven't had that kind of leadership in the West since the 1960s, with figures like JFK, Charles de Gaulle, Francisco Franco, and even earlier you had heroic figures like Charles Lindberg, Ezra Pound or Henry Ford who were suppressed. When you really see what is going on in China, which I have experienced first hand, it is hard not to admire what they are achieving as a nation and a people.
I don't think we need to see them as a mortal enemy, I view them as industrial rivals, though in many aspects that rivalry is not always a zero sum game.
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