Charlie Kirk Thread


Charlie Kirk ally reveals 'absolute miracle' that may have saved lives during fatal shooting

Andrew Kolvet says Kirk's doctor called it miraculous that the high-powered round didn't exit the TPUSA founder's body

"The surgeon told Kolvet that the bullet 'absolutely should have gone through, which is very very normal for a high powered, high velocity round'.

'I’ve seen wounds from this caliber many times and they always just go through everything. This would have taken a moose or two,' the surgeon told Kolvet.

A .30-06 bolt action rifle, the kind that was discovered hidden in the woods after Kirk was killed, is used to kill deer, elk, moose, bears and other big game animals.

Because this rifle can kill animals six times bigger than humans, the fact that Kirk's neck stopped this bullet was an 'absolute miracle', according to the surgeon Kolvet spoke with.

'His bone was so healthy and the density was so so impressive that he’s like the man of steel. It should have just gone through and through. It likely would have killed those standing behind him too,' the surgeon said to Kolvet."

 
Bro... That's way to much.


Dis you write all that or an AI summary?

I've seen this lady on the whatever podcast make an ass off herself. And Andrew Wilson have to correct her mental decencies.

So I'm a little circumspect ....
Beneath the video I posted (and a few others recently) I explicitly added "Summarized with https://gist.ly/youtube-summarizer". I know that many forum members will not sit down to watch an hour long video, and using an AI tool to summarize it turns out to be a good compromise to get across the gist of the video.

Whether this lady is sincere or not I don't know. I was more posting it for us to observe Charlie's approach to dialogue and discussion. Many of us would have written her off as a lost cause and refused to engage, yet Charlie remained engaged and respectful, seeming to be truly glad that she was turning away from the monstrous system that exploits her, other women and men by exposing it.
 
Other than the name, I didn't know who Charlie was- like others I knew he had a thread here. I didn't watch it, but I checked the channel of that physiognomy guy whose JD/Newsom video got posted here somewhere- he did Charlie's too.

I haven't kept up with this thread diligently. When I saw the footage I immediately said Eternal Rest, it looked devastating, not a chance. He got hit really hard, arteries, windpipe, very likely spinal cord damage from the shock wave. Looks pro and intentional, not a botched head shot. Seems to have been done by the same deep state forces that tried to kill Trump, but had learned their lesson. The head moves frequently, while the neck will be more stationary almost always moving with the whole body, or just the upper body sometimes if you bend forward or backwards.

A crazy person can be groomed to do it, it's possible. I wonder if the real Trump PA shooter was firing from maybe up to a kilometer away, several bullets were placed perfectly, flying close by to Trump's repositioned head. Theoretically a trusting deranged leftist could have been used- promised a safe exit by his handler accomplices, unaware it was a suicide mission. Supposedly the cops were told by many people that somebody was crawling on a roof with a rifle, and didn't react. Why then didn't anybody notify the event staff, who could have notified the Trump people. I didn't follow the investigation to find out the details, bullet types, etc. Now the would be FL shooter seems to be doing fine sitting comfortably in custody, without talking, has the investigation stalled?

When Patel was sworn in by Trump, his female cousin and her kid flew in from London for the occasion. The UK is fallen so they could be easily randomly attacked and hurt while there, if Patel won't play ball.

That old George Zinn guy was accused of sexual misconduct with a minor but is walking, so he got an offer and is now beholden to the system under the pain of a renewed DA attention and will do whatever he's told. I don't know the history of younger distracting actor.

The Vegas Steven Paddock shooting was memory holed. People say there were several shooters, fire was coming down from different angles and directions, not mere sound of gunshots bouncing off of the walls of the surrounding buildings, over 500 victims.

80% of Jews vote Democrat, up to now unafraid and tolerant of their pro-Palestine pets and attack dogs because so far they have been getting their main job done satisfyingly, but now it seems it's gotten too big to tolerate and has a life of its own, as the military offensive continues and escalates, and the news spread online. They now say if Israel loses the GOP they will have nobody left, Charlie started to shift, and mainstream MAGA could have followed him. He was presidential material according to my old man when he learned about him following the assassination. Right wingers worry much more about their own countries, not about who gets to keep the region of Palestine, at least I don't, so they won't mind any broad crackdown against the left, they could hardly wait any longer. A lot of dirt will be swept away during the cleaning as a cover to go after the truly troublesome targets who oppose the ME involvement. That said, I've never been a Palestine supporter, even as a small kid in the 90s during the intifada, the evil leftists would have been protesting against Richard the Lionheart and the crusaders just the same. If absolute safety of the Christians could be guaranteed I wouldn't care at all, and no killing of women and children.

edit: Jews can publicly cry about the attacks against Antifa as doing them harm, not all Antifa will suffer that's for sure, only the 'bad' ones, and they always cry when they hit you.
 
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80% of Jews vote Democrat, up to now unafraid and tolerant of their pro-Palestine pets and attack dogs because so far they have been getting their main job done satisfyingly, but now it seems it's gotten too big to tolerate and has a life of its own, as the military offensive continues and escalates, and the news spread online. They now say if Israel loses the GOP they will have nobody left, Charlie started to shift, and mainstream MAGA could have followed him. He was presidential material according to my old man when he learned about him following the assassination. Right wingers worry much more about their own countries, not about who gets to keep the region of Palestine, at least I don't, so they won't mind any broad crackdown against the left, they could hardly wait any longer. A lot of dirt will be swept away during the cleaning as a cover to go after the truly troublesome targets who oppose the ME involvement. That said, I've never been a Palestine supporter, even as a small kid in the 90s during the intifada, the evil leftists would have been protesting against Richard the Lionheart and the crusaders just the same. If absolute safety of the Christians could be guaranteed I wouldn't care at all, and no killing of women and children.

edit: Jews can publicly cry about the attacks against Antifa as doing them harm, not all Antifa will suffer that's for sure, only the 'bad' ones, and they always cry when they hit you.
Maybe they are pivotting to a different type of immigrant that is more submissive to the jewish agenda. Meanwhile sick whitey and the muslims on each other.

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Maybe they are pivotting to a different type of immigrant that is more submissive to the jewish agenda. Meanwhile sick whitey and the muslims on each other.

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It's all about Indians, remember my memes dear brothers.

((They)) let them in then Indians get interest free loans and buy up white business then fire all whites and replace those with more Indians. Rinse and repeat.


Your government doesn't love you btw.
 
Before his death, this is exactly the kind of video I would have passed over after seeing the thumbnail.



Summary from https://gist.ly/youtube-summarizer

## Exploring Modern Dating, Identity, and Values: A Deep Dive into Contemporary Discourse

The landscape of dating, relationships, and identity is rapidly evolving, shaped by cultural shifts, technological advancements, and ongoing debates about values and personal autonomy. In a recent panel discussion featuring a diverse group of guests—including social media influencers, political organizers, adult content creators, and a prominent conservative commentator—the complexities of these topics were explored in depth. The conversation traversed issues of relationship dynamics, hookup culture, love, gender identity, political compatibility, and the moral questions surrounding sexuality and reproductive rights.

This article unpacks the key themes and arguments from the discussion, offering insights into how young adults are navigating the challenges and opportunities of modern life.

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## The State of Modern Relationships

### Relationship Status and Experiences

The panel began by sharing their current relationship statuses, revealing a spectrum from single to married, with experiences ranging from short-term flings to long-term commitments. Notably, Charlie Kirk, the only married participant, emphasized the fulfillment he finds in family life, contrasting it with the frustrations many feel in today’s dating scene.

For many panelists, relationships are fluid, with terms like “situationship,” “friends with benefits,” and “talking stage” reflecting the ambiguity that often characterizes modern romance. Several guests expressed a tendency toward short-lived relationships, citing boredom or a lack of deep connection as common reasons for breakups.

### The Impact of Hookup Culture

A recurring theme was the prevalence of hookup culture and its effects on individuals and society. Charlie Kirk critiqued the casual approach to sex, arguing that it undermines the sacredness of intimacy and the potential for deep, lasting bonds. He advocated for dating with the intent to marry, suggesting that the pursuit of fleeting pleasure often leads to dissatisfaction and a lack of fulfillment.

Other panelists offered alternative perspectives, with some embracing open relationships and non-traditional arrangements. For example, Molly, an adult content creator, described how her work and open relationship dynamics have strengthened her bond with her partner, allowing for honest communication and exploration of boundaries.

### Defining Love

The panelists grappled with the question, “What is love?” Responses varied, but common threads included emotional connection, acceptance of flaws, and a desire for mutual growth. Some distinguished between different types of love—romantic, familial, platonic—while others emphasized self-love as foundational.

Charlie Kirk introduced the Greek concepts of love: phileo (brotherly love), storge (parental love), eros (erotic love), and agape (self-sacrificing love), suggesting that the highest form of love involves a willingness to put another’s needs above one’s own.

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## Identity, Gender, and Societal Norms

### Gender Identity and Definitions

The conversation delved into the contentious topic of gender identity, with panelists offering a range of definitions for “woman.” Some defined womanhood in terms of biological sex, while others emphasized social roles, energy, or self-identification. The debate highlighted the tension between traditional and progressive views, with questions about the legitimacy of gender as a social construct versus a biological reality.

Charlie Kirk challenged the panel to provide a functional, objective definition of “woman,” arguing that clarity on this issue is essential for meaningful discourse on feminism and equality. The discussion revealed the complexity of gender identity, with some panelists acknowledging the existence of trans women and the fluidity of gender roles across cultures and history.

### The Role of Biology and Socialization

The panel explored whether male and female brains are wired differently, referencing studies on brain activity and socialization. While some argued that differences are primarily the result of cultural conditioning, others pointed to biological factors that influence behavior, interests, and emotional processing.

The conversation touched on the impact of socialization on gendered behaviors, such as emotional expression and cognitive patterns, and the ways in which societal expectations shape individual experiences.

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## Political Compatibility and Dating

### Navigating Political Differences

Political orientation emerged as a significant factor in dating and relationships. Panelists discussed whether they would date someone with opposing political views, with most expressing openness to differing perspectives—provided there was mutual respect and alignment on core values.

Some shared experiences of dates ending abruptly due to political incompatibility, while others emphasized the importance of issue-by-issue discussion rather than rigid ideological labels. The consensus was that value alignment, especially on fundamental issues like family, religion, and social policies, is crucial for long-term relationship success.

### The Polarization of Young Men and Women

The panel examined trends showing young women becoming more left-leaning and young men more right-leaning, speculating on the causes of this polarization. Factors cited included targeted online radicalization, the perceived failure of feminism to address men’s needs, and the cultural emphasis on women’s rights within progressive movements.

Suggestions for bridging the divide included reducing hypocrisy in cultural expectations, fostering open dialogue, and avoiding the vilification of those with differing beliefs.

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## Sexuality, Autonomy, and Societal Impact

### The Ethics of Adult Content Creation

Several panelists, including adult content creators, discussed the personal and societal implications of their work. Questions were raised about the impact of pornography on mental health, relationships, and societal norms, with references to research on addiction and dopamine regulation.

Charlie Kirk likened the consumption of pornography to drug addiction, arguing that it can be detrimental to men’s development and well-being. He advocated for stricter age verification and greater awareness of the potential harms, while acknowledging the challenges of regulating access in a digital age.

Panelists who create adult content defended their choices, citing personal fulfillment, financial independence, and the ability to support their families. They argued that stigma and judgment often overlook the agency and empowerment they derive from their work.

### Disclosure and Dating Preferences

The panel addressed the ethics of disclosure in dating, particularly regarding trans identity. Most agreed that trans individuals should disclose their status before intimacy or serious emotional involvement, both for safety and respect. The conversation extended to other aspects of identity, such as race, religion, and political orientation, with the consensus that transparency is important but not always required upfront.

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## Reproductive Rights and Moral Questions

### Abortion: Legal, Moral, and Personal Perspectives

The discussion on abortion was among the most heated, with panelists expressing divergent views on its morality, legality, and personal impact. Charlie Kirk maintained that life begins at conception and equated abortion with murder, advocating for the protection of the unborn and criticizing the lack of informed consent in abortion procedures.

(My comments: Charlie did an outstanding job framing his argument against abortion, describing the "procedure" that abortionists perform, how in videos you can see the baby moving, dodging, doing everything it can to escape the inevitable... chilling enough to hear, I don't ever want to go out of my way to watch it myself...)

Other panelists defended the right to choose, citing financial readiness, parental responsibility, and bodily autonomy as valid reasons for seeking abortion. They argued that the government should not dictate personal reproductive decisions and highlighted the complexities of individual circumstances.

The debate touched on the role of men in reproductive decisions, with some advocating for legal paternal surrender (the right of men to relinquish parental responsibility) in cases where they are not ready or willing to be fathers.

### The Intersection of Morality, Liberty, and Law

Underlying the abortion debate were broader questions about the relationship between morality, liberty, and law. Panelists discussed whether personal autonomy should be limited when it affects others, and how society should balance individual rights with the protection of vulnerable populations.

The conversation revealed deep philosophical divides, with some prioritizing the defense of innocent life and others emphasizing the importance of personal freedom and self-determination.

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## Feminism, Patriarchy, and Social Change

### Defining Feminism and Its Goals

Panelists who identified as feminists defined the movement as the advocacy of equality across social, political, and economic domains for all genders. The discussion highlighted the challenges of achieving true equality, particularly in creative fields where pay disparities persist.

Charlie Kirk acknowledged the importance of legal equality but questioned the feasibility of economic parity in industries driven by market demand and individual qualifications.

### The Existence and Impact of Patriarchy

The concept of patriarchy was debated, with some panelists asserting its ongoing influence in society and others questioning its relevance in contemporary contexts. The conversation touched on historical examples, such as female monarchs, and the ways in which power structures vary across cultures and time periods.

Panelists agreed that definitions of patriarchy and its manifestations are complex, and that progress toward equality requires nuanced understanding and open dialogue.

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## Faith, Identity, and Personal Reconciliation

### Navigating Faith and Personal Choices

The panel concluded with a discussion on faith, particularly the reconciliation of religious beliefs with personal choices, such as participation in adult content creation. Some panelists described themselves as spiritual or culturally religious, while others identified as practicing Christians.

Charlie Kirk offered a message of hope and forgiveness, emphasizing that everyone is capable of transformation and that faith can provide purpose and healing. He encouraged panelists to consider the possibility of a higher calling and the potential for personal growth through spiritual engagement.

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## Conclusion: Navigating Complexity in a Changing World

The panel discussion illuminated the multifaceted nature of modern life, where questions of identity, love, sexuality, politics, and morality intersect in complex and often contentious ways. The diversity of perspectives showcased the challenges young adults face in forging meaningful relationships, defining their values, and making choices that align with their beliefs.

Key takeaways from the conversation include:

- The importance of honest communication and value alignment in relationships.
- The need for nuanced understanding of gender, identity, and social roles.
- The impact of cultural and technological shifts on dating, sexuality, and personal autonomy.
- The ongoing debates about reproductive rights, morality, and the role of law in regulating personal choices.
- The potential for faith and personal growth to provide purpose and resilience in the face of societal pressures.

As society continues to evolve, open dialogue and mutual respect remain essential for navigating the complexities of modern life. Whether in matters of love, identity, or personal conviction, the willingness to engage with differing perspectives is key to building a more understanding and inclusive world.

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I felt his closing remarks were particularly heartfelt




"I can tell you it's not me. If it was me I'd be yelling and screaming. It's the Holy Spirit, it really is. I know it might sound silly, it might sound cliche, but Jesus has gone to work on my life."
 

^ Max Blumenthal (heard the name but don't know who he is) knocks it out of the park on this one.

Lone tranny loving shooter is most likely complete BS. Tyler Robinson is refusing to speak and has not plead guilty in a court of law. In addition, there are no "facts" yet that have been presented in a court of law, so it is best to analyze this situation with your own intuition and eyes. Blumenthal does a great job of doing this in the above video.
 
Most likely explanation on how Kirk was taken out. Explosive device in his Mic. Read the full thread for the full break-down.



Video of Guy Detonating it

Close up.

Pay close attention to who at least entertains this very plausible theory. Any of the big names who won't even mention it are outing themselves as controlled opposition.

So far the only major accounts I've seen pick this up is the Health Ranger and Owen Benjamin

 
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^ Max Blumenthal (heard the name but don't know who he is) knocks it out of the park on this one.
His site showed up in a telegram channel. Unfortunately he seems to be a jew. So who knows what his agenda is. I googled him and he seems to be connected to russia, etc.
Lone tranny loving shooter is most likely complete BS. Tyler Robinson is refusing to speak and has not plead guilty in a court of law. In addition, there are no "facts" yet that have been presented in a court of law, so it is best to analyze this situation with your own intuition and eyes. Blumenthal does a great job of doing this in the above video.
There are too many inconsistencies. Unless there´s a confession I don´t see how that guy can be convicted of anything. Unless for being a fag. But I could be wrong. Not on the fag part.

If I was the father I would spend the reward money fast.

There´s a lot of second hand info. And not official reports or firsthand. Which are what really matters in courts. Unless they are not showing them. Everything until now is a big pile of shit. And a judge would dismiss this as a comic book.
 
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^ Max Blumenthal (heard the name but don't know who he is) knocks it out of the park on this one.

Lone tranny loving shooter is most likely complete BS. Tyler Robinson is refusing to speak and has not plead guilty in a court of law. In addition, there are no "facts" yet that have been presented in a court of law, so it is best to analyze this situation with your own intuition and eyes. Blumenthal does a great job of doing this in the above video.
He is a left leaning reform Jew.
 


St. Thomas Aquinas: “In a case of exacting retribution the mindset of the one who exacts retribution must be taken into consideration. For if his intention is directed mainly toward what is bad for the one on whom he is taking vengeance and it rests there, then this is altogether illicit, since delighting in what is bad for someone involves hatred, which is incompatible with the charity by which we are obligated to love all men. Nor is one excused if he intends evil for someone who has unjustly inflicted evil on him, just as no one is excused for hating someone who hates him. For a man ought not to sin against another by reason of the fact that the other has first sinned against him, since this is to be conquered by evil and is prohibited by the Apostle in Romans 12:21 when he says, ‘Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.’

On the other hand, if the intention of the one who is exacting retribution is directed mainly toward some good that is attained by punishing the sinner, viz., toward bettering the sinner – or at least restraining him and bringing tranquility to others – and toward the conservation of justice and of the honor of God, then the act of exacting retribution can be licit, as long as the other appropriate circumstances are preserved” (Summa Theologiae II-II.108.1, Freddoso translation)
 
If you’ve seen the video you know that it’s a bullet entering his neck. There is zero chance that an explosive went off in his microphone that caused a wound like that and killed him. I don’t want to offend anyone here but this is exactly the “schizo conspiretard” stuff that makes the right look stupid and unorganized. There is not a man detonation an explosive he is adjusting his body or something. He was shot in the neck. It’s rather obvious given all of the visual evidence.
 
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