Lounge of The Russian-Ukrainian War

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But Mother Russia is on God's side, and is unstoppable, right comrade?

The US financed and built the whole tech sector of USSR under Bolsheviks and Stalin when Americans were clawing for a living during Great Depression, it also never sanctioned USSR and kept the trade going for the duration of the Cold 'War', so who's the comrade, boomer?

 

[PurpleUrkel]

The US financed and built the whole tech sector of Russia when it was Bolshevik and Stalinist so who's the comrade, boomer?

The jews in Russia fire weapons at the jews in Ukraine supplied by the jews in the US who ship more weapons to the jews in Israel to fire at the jews in Iran. It's all jew on jew for profit war theater my dear comrade zoomer-boomer. It doesn't matter if (((they))) wear a turbin and pray to allah or Christ, if they act like jews and talk like jews ("money, money, money, war, war, war, land, land, land") then they are jews.

"A jew by any other name still smells like jew."

And Putin and Trump are two of the biggest jew loving jews of them all.

"Epstein didn't kill himself."

 

[TruckDriver9]

Columbian families of dead/MIA mercs protesting back home. Russia killed around 1,000 Columbian mercs in Ukraine, including POWs.

 

[Cooper]

This war is not going to last very long, it's the start of the final phase. Ukraine and NATO are now unable to stop mass deep drone strikes on supply lines and military assets deep behind their front lines. This thread gives you an idea of where it's headed:

 

[Cooper]

This war will end when just one of these conditions are true:

1- Ukraine runs out of soldiers
2- Ukraine runs out of weapons and trained soldiers to operate them
3- Ukrainian people morale sinks and majority become sick of the war

#3 might happen before 1 and 2, although the three conditions are related. Here is a sign of popular attitude change, not just one or two people trying to stop the conscription gangs, but the whole mob of passer-bys:

 

[expectation]

Biden-era Options Trump Will Likely Exercise vs. Russia in Ukraine

Biden admin was considering arming Ukraine with a number of JASSM air-launched cruise missiles using F-16s already deployed to Ukraine;

Baseline JASSMs would fall just short of reaching Moscow, while extended range variants could actually hit the Russian capital;

The decision was already made during the Biden admin in 2024, but would need months to implement - meaning it would have to be "announced" during the Trump administration;

It's still not certain what the Trump admin will announce this Monday, but this is a very likely escalation that will take place, if not this week, inevitably;

Other weapons that could be sent are more of the same - ATACMS, glide bombs, artillery shells, anti-tank weapons, along with German long-range weapons sent under the guise of "German financed, Ukrainian-made" missiles;

As per continuity of agenda, the US plans to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian, sending whatever can be spared, escalating gradually throughout the conflict, while compelling Europe to pursue self-destructive over-spending and involvement in the US proxy war - Trump becoming president has clearly changed none of this;

Think tanks (Project 2025, Marathon Institute, America First Institute) laying out "Trump" policy before he even contested 2024 elections, sought continued confrontation with Russia, Iran, and China through a combination of "division of labor" and "strategic sequencing," which the exact same policy pursued under the Obama-Biden administrations;

This recent Axios report: axios.com/2025/07/14/tru…

...claims:

"two sources told Axios they had reason to believe the plan was likely to include long-range missiles that could reach targets deep inside Russian territory, including Moscow. However, neither was aware of any final decision..."

There are only a few weapons the US could transfer to Ukraine that fit this description, the JASSM-ER air-launched cruise missile is one of them.

Preparations were likely being made since under Biden meaning they're ready and simply need to be "announced" by Trump.

If JASSMs aren't announced this Monday, they and other missiles like Germany's Taurus are almost certainly going to be sent eventually.

The objective was always to fight to the last Ukrainian, escalating as much as possible along the way, raising the cost, and extending Russia as much as possible.

Deploying JASSMs - including extended range variants - would provide valuable data required to eventually arm the Philippines, Taiwan, and other proxies to use them against China in the Asia-Pacific.

 

[Caduceus]

Can someone confirm if this is a real Ukrainian recruitment video for mercenaries in Central & South America to come fight for Ukraine against Russia ?

 

[budoslavic]

Can someone confirm if this is a real Ukrainian recruitment video for mercenaries in Central & South America to come fight Russia ?

It is real. Commenters are saying her Spanish is "atrocious". Also, there is a website for foreigners who wish to join the Ukrainian Army, "International Legion for the Defence of Ukraine".

Join the International Legion of Defense of Ukraine

International Legion for the Defence of Ukraine

ildu.legion.army

Edit.

 

[Caduceus]

It is real. Commenters are saying her Spanish is "atrocious".

The huge yellow sombrero shes wearing, mariachi music in the background, and the dancing at the end is all so ludicrous, it beggars belief it's actually a real foreign mercenary recruitment video, but I'll take your word for it.

 

[budoslavic]

Unconfirmed and unverified.

Putin rejects Trump's ultimatum and prepares for a new offensive

Vladimir Putin has dismissed Donald Trump's 50-day ultimatum and tariff threats, signaling Russia's intent to escalate the war in Ukraine rather than back down.

According to Kremlin-linked sources cited by Reuters, Putin is unfazed by sanctions and determined to fight until the West accepts his terms - including recognition of occupied territories and limits on Ukraine's military. With Russian forces already controlling a fifth of Ukraine, his ambitions may grow further as the front advances.

One source warned of a major new offensive in the coming months, possibly targeting Dnipro, Sumy, or Kharkiv if Ukraine's defenses falter.

Putin still demands NATO halt expansion and that the West legally recognize his gains. "He believes no one has seriously talked peace," a source added. "So he'll keep going until he gets what he wants."

 

[Sandalwood Peak]

Very interesting developments. I was wrong.

Turns out Trump doesn't want to give an inch. He wants a NAFO type victory for his neocon buddies. Putin on the other hand has been using the conflict as a bargaining chip. Not sure what he wants to negotiate but it seems retarded on all levels. Putin realizes a frozen conflict is going end badly for his administration. They will squeeze him like a lemon. He's trying to maintain a poker face.

The military aid is going to be interesting. The Ukrainians are weak but they can do some economic damage with new toys and better support. The sanctions are going to be bad. BRICS & Co. seems the most willing to negotiate on the tariffs, which is funny.

Considering Putin refuses to escalate, it is now the only option. Try to end it quick. We're going to find out if there's truly something stopping him from escalating or it was a choice. If Putin doesn't escalate he's going to lose the war, he knows. America isn't continuing with the status quo, America is escalating and that puts the Russian slow walking strategy into jeopardy.

 

[Caduceus]

He's trying to maintain a poker face.

Putin has maintained a poker face since he was 8 years old.

 

[Droughtmeat]

Yep, his demeanor never really changes, regardless of what's going on. Admittedly, he does laugh at times or show signs of bewilderment when trying to explain the rationale behind some of the west's decisions.

 

[TruckDriver9]

Very interesting developments. I was wrong.

Turns out Trump doesn't want to give an inch. He wants a NAFO type victory for his neocon buddies. Putin on the other hand has been using the conflict as a bargaining chip. Not sure what he wants to negotiate but it seems retarded on all levels. Putin realizes a frozen conflict is going end badly for his administration. They will squeeze him like a lemon. He's trying to maintain a poker face.

The military aid is going to be interesting. The Ukrainians are weak but they can do some economic damage with new toys and better support. The sanctions are going to be bad. BRICS & Co. seems the most willing to negotiate on the tariffs, which is funny.

Considering Putin refuses to escalate, it is now the only option. Try to end it quick. We're going to find out if there's truly something stopping him from escalating or it was a choice. If Putin doesn't escalate he's going to lose the war, he knows. America isn't continuing with the status quo, America is escalating and that puts the Russian slow walking strategy into jeopardy.

I'm on the other hand bored. Nothing has really changed. Military support continues - except now it will be at a European (financial and material) expense. Russian position remains unchanged. The 100% tariff on Russian goods is a nothingburger - there's barely any trade between US and Russia left (I think we still import things like uranium and some other metals) after all the previous sanctions. The threat of secondary sanctions, as well as Graham's idea of 500% tariffs, on Russian trading partners won't really work in practice: first of all we would have to sanction not just BRICS member states, but our allies (Japan, Turkey, EU) as well. Second, it's not like other countries trade with Russia out of love for them (or spite for the US) they do it because it's profitable for them - so unless we can step in and replace Russian resources on global markets with ours (and/or allied), other countries will continue to buy them from Russia.

 

[Sandalwood Peak]

I'm on the other hand bored. Nothing has really changed. Military support continues - except now it will be at a European (financial and material) expense. Russian position remains unchanged. The 100% tariff on Russian goods is a nothingburger - there's barely any trade between US and Russia left (I think we still import things like uranium and some other metals) after all the previous sanctions. The threat of secondary sanctions, as well as Graham's idea of 500% tariffs, on Russian trading partners won't really work in practice: first of all we would have to sanction not just BRICS member states, but our allies (Japan, Turkey, EU) as well. Second, it's not like other countries trade with Russia out of love for them (or spite for the US) they do it because it's profitable for them - so unless we can step in and replace Russian resources on global markets with ours (and/or allied), other countries will continue to buy them from Russia.

Do you think America is a paper tiger? I've floated the controlled demolition of America theory so I'm open minded. Having said that if
Russia wants a rapprochement with the west I don't really understand how this will materialize. People say that Russia and China are biding their time, waiting for the West to collapse but that doesn't explain the state of the Ukraine War.

The Ukraine War has a severe toll and it doesn't make sense to sustain it for geopolitical purposes. Not only does it have a toll but it will will have lasting effects. The reconstruction effort for one. These are also neighbors and ethnic kin.

People say there's a military objective, the collapse of the Ukrainian war effort. How would this facilitate a settlement with the west?
If you want a settlement with the west you have to exert pressure on the west. How does this conflict exert that pressure? If you want a settlement with Ukraine then you need to try a little harder, militarily. I don't understand the Art of War here.

Essentially Russia is behaving like a sitting duck to me. You can say Russia is dominating the Ukies, but geopolitically it's a sitting duck. It's not doing anything but everyone else is free to scheme on them.

Some people will say it's just a charade and this just theater. Putin is a Jew. We're in the cusp of a new world order. Okay, I personally don't see Putin being part of the New World Order. He's a artifact of the Old World Order. So he needs to go.

Basically everything points in the same direction for me.

 

[TruckDriver9]

Do you think America is a paper tiger? I've floated the controlled demolition of America theory so I'm open minded. Having said that if
Russia wants a rapprochement with the west I don't really understand how this will materialize. People say that Russia and China are biding their time, waiting for the West to collapse but that doesn't explain the state of the Ukraine War.

The Ukraine War has a severe toll and it doesn't make sense to sustain it for geopolitical purposes. Not only does it have a toll but it will will have lasting effects. The reconstruction effort for one. These are also neighbors and ethnic kin.

People say there's a military objective, the collapse of the Ukrainian war effort. How would this facilitate a settlement with the west?
If you want a settlement with the west you have to exert pressure on the west. How does this conflict exert that pressure? If you want a settlement with Ukraine then you need to try a little harder, militarily. I don't understand the Art of War here.

Essentially Russia is behaving like a sitting duck to me. You can say Russia is dominating the Ukies, but geopolitically it's a sitting duck. It's not doing anything but everyone else is free to scheme on them.

Some people will say it's just a charade and this just theater. Putin is a Jew. We're in the cusp of a new world order. Okay, I personally don't see Putin being part of the New World Order. He's a artifact of the Old World Order. So he needs to go.

Basically everything points in the same direction for me.

You're reading too much from my previous post. I just don't see the recent news as anything actually new. What will change after Trump's latest statement - the same weapons which were previously delivered to ukraine from our stockpiles, will now be delivered from European arsenals (Patriots from Germany for example) and we will generously allow Europeans to buy new systems from us to replace them. And all of these weapons were already used in ukraine for years, so it's not like there's a silver bullet there that will turn the tide now. It sure is a win for America - Europeans who just agreed to increase their military spending, will spend that money buying American made equipment. Kind of like they're buying more American LNG, instead of increasing their own production, after the destruction of Nord Stream. So we're definitely getting stronger, but it's happening at the expense of our allies, not foes.
And the threat of further economic sanctions against Russia seems hollow right now, not because of our real or perceived decline, but because of the simple supply-demand rule - as long as we can't replace the volume of Russian oil (and other resources) available on the global markets, other countries will continue to buy it. Again, not out of spite for us, or love for Putin, but because they simply need it and can't get it anywhere else.

 

[Thomas More]

The military aid is going to be interesting. The Ukrainians are weak but they can do some economic damage with new toys and better support. The sanctions are going to be bad. BRICS & Co. seems the most willing to negotiate on the tariffs, which is funny.

I don't understand why the sanctions would be bad. There have already been maximum sanctions for years. What would even change?

 

[Sandalwood Peak]

I don't understand why the sanctions would be bad. There have already been maximum sanctions for years. What would even change?

My understanding is Russia is a big player in global trade. Nothing high tech, just raw materials. This is major leverage Russia has geopolitically, that Russia fully embraces and relies on. A lot of Russian political posturing revolves around this, whether domestically or globally.

This role of Russia has created various conspiracies.

There's a conspiracy that modern Russia is mafia state, Russian industries are controlled by oligarchs or the jews, and that it tries to maintain a regional monopoly that's anti-competitive and detrimental to it's neighbors. This is what a portion of Ukraine believes and you also have the Central Asians who believe Russia "keeps them poor". There's people that believe the Ukraine War is a mafia war between oligarchs underneath. There's a Russian sentiment that the Russian government keeps them poor, while enriching the oligarchs. There's also a conspiracy that the west turned Russia into a vassal state, a gas station for Europe, and prevents Russia from developing. Essentially a conspiracy that the west keeps Russia poor. You might notice a common denominator in mentality. The Russian government's explanation is basically the Soviet industrial base was unprofitable and selling raw materials is profitable, it's up to private enterprise to create anything and it tries to maintain friendly neighborly relations for sustained development.

Not telling you what to believe, just laying it out.

Because Russia is a big player in global trade, rich people would theoretically not want to vote with their wallet in regards to the War. The theory is that the sanctions are for show and that most of the pain is actually a one way street. Russia has a problem with imports, Russia has a problem with banking and specific individuals in Russia are targeted. Europe is suffering more according to BRICS aligned sources but the situation is very subjective for me.

It's like when people keep talking about these collapses, how a country will run out of money but we're waiting decades for it happen. Who to believe? I guess it happened to Sri Lanka so there's hope?

Anyway, real sanctions would involve actually upending global trade, forcefully. Does Trump have such power? We'll see.

 

[Caduceus]

Putin is a Jew.

ZERO evidence for this

There's a conspiracy that modern Russia is mafia state, Russian industries are controlled by oligarchs or the jews,

Putin arrested or neutralised almost all of the oligarchs in the early 2000s....the rest fled to the west.

Here's an infamous example from around 20 years ago

 

[Cooper]

ZERO evidence for this


Putin arrested or neutralised almost all of the oligarchs in the early 2000s....the rest fled to the west.

Here's an infamous example from around 20 years ago

It really beggars the imagination to think that the ((banksters)), who owned Russia outright in the 1990s under their man Yeltsin, would put in place a man like Putin who would:

• take back and nationalize their natural resources and heavy industry conglomerates that ((they)) stole from the USSR in an inside heist (see post below!)
• build 25,000 churches and restore Christianity in Russia
• pay off Russia's debt
• reduce social ills (alcoholism, abortions, crime, drug use)
• push for Christian values and protect Russian society from degeneracy
• keep the country together and foil attempts to break it up

All this, and yet Putin is a Jewish mole?

The Putin bashers are either just not very bright, or have a more nefarious agenda, like LaNegra, who goes as far as maintaining a fake Russian/sock puppet account whose whole schtick is to discredit Russia and Putin.