Tell that to Muhammad Ali who went to prison for being a conscientious objector.
Iran-Israeli Conflict Thread
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How dare you!!!!!
Yeah I don't really take offense to this post, being 18 at the time and all. You're not condemning the soldier for their decisions.
Again something many many many here wouldn't do even if perfect clarity existed. They would thresh their wheat in their cellars while the Midianites burned the fields and raped the women so they could say "I told you so" rather than risk anything.
Well at least you now know you're not alone.
Seriously, I don't understand your thinking processes here especially considering this forum is supposedly red pilled. Help us out here. A few questions for starters. Do you believe Osama Bin Laden was the mastermind behind 9/11?
Were there WMDs in Iraq (or Afghanistan for that matter)? What, in your mind, justified the American invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan?
Safe from what? I accept countries need to have a defensive and offensive capability, but American armed forces have caused devastation in multiple foreign invasions for geopolitical reasons, not in defence of your homeland.
And there we have it. That's not crazy at all, it's an evil desire and an evil act.
Saul was wired that way before he met the Lord and became Paul. He was blinded until he was given a new heart and a new mission. Following his conversion, his miraculous change of heart, he almost single handedly founded the Church. Metanoia, pray for it. You need it more than you can even imagine.
Your pride man. You will be humbled at some point. You better pray it's in this life and not the next.
No, hell is hell and war is war and you do have a choice.
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This is just patently absurd and false. This is the same past sins/future logic as instituting reparations for slavery when in fact the argument of, "you were never a slave, and I was never a slave owner" effectively means that existentially in the here and now slavery never existed and therefore you are entitled to nothing simply for being a black person on American soil in 2025.
In the same argumentative vein as the "no reparations" policy we can apply this logic to a "no war" policy. In the 21st Century where 95% of the world has electricity and antibiotics, 80% have running water, and 70% have access to the internet there is literally nothing for most normal humans to fight about, much less to die for. Life goals can be achieved with the aforementioned tools of modern convenience without the need to result to mass casualty violence. As I've stated before "War is so 20th Century." In 2001, and still now in 2025, war serves no purpose except as a futile exercise in getting the normie masses to go and die for the ego pleasure and personal financial gain of (((elite))) armchair warriors who have no intention of ever setting foot on the battlefield. And so if normies refused to fight and die for these (((elites))) then there would absolutely be no war in 2025. So yes, by volunteering for uneccessary war, you are by definition not part of the solution, but part of the problem. It is not heroic to go and die for nothing. It is foolish and should be labeled as such.
In much the same way we shouldn't respect a man just because he is black and the descendant of slaves, we shouldn't respect a man just because he was in the military. You volunteered to go and fight in an illegal, uneccessary war in Iraq and Afghanistan at the behest of non-combatant (((elites))). I did not ask you to nor did I demand that you fight on my behalf or for my "safety." In 2001, and still in 2025 I don't want or need another man to protect me or fight on behalf. I can defend myself and I will fight and die at a time and place of my choosing. When the Iraqis, or Afghanis, or Iranians attack American shores in boats at the coast of North Carolina I can assure you that I will meet them with brothers in arms to fight and die for my country, but until that day I will stay home and not go on uneccessary, illegal war adventures in other countries at the behest of the Satanic elite.
I think most people who join the military is because of the money and future carreer prospect. Some just want to blow shit up. Very few are there for justice reasons. I was once lawyer of a dude who just left the military. He was sick of being there. It was a crime to desert. In the trial there was a civil and military judge which to me looked like something completely anachronic. Was wondering when Gene Hackman would show up and say: “You cant handle the truth.” Ahahahahahahahah
Dude was working as a cook and was tired of peeling potatos. He got a fine.
I enlisted in the navy as an officer because I wanted to travel for free. It wasn´t for the money or future prospect. Wanted to see the world. But ended up going to a law office after family pressure. That kinda sucked.
I think the most represented religion in US army is christian and from there catholics.
enemies will not invade a strong healthy country. 9/11 was a show of internal weakness of US due to bending over for jews. Saudi Arabia and jews did it.the enemy wasnt in afghanistan. He is inside US.
Netanyahu trial was not postponed. This is bad news. The president can still pardon him. If not expect false flag in 3,2,1
Netanyahu handed the judges a secret envelope with his agenda for the coming week and asked them to reconsider the decision.
Dude was working as a cook and was tired of peeling potatos. He got a fine.
I enlisted in the navy as an officer because I wanted to travel for free. It wasn´t for the money or future prospect. Wanted to see the world. But ended up going to a law office after family pressure. That kinda sucked.
I think the most represented religion in US army is christian and from there catholics.
enemies will not invade a strong healthy country. 9/11 was a show of internal weakness of US due to bending over for jews. Saudi Arabia and jews did it.the enemy wasnt in afghanistan. He is inside US.
Netanyahu trial was not postponed. This is bad news. The president can still pardon him. If not expect false flag in 3,2,1
Netanyahu handed the judges a secret envelope with his agenda for the coming week and asked them to reconsider the decision.
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The Saudis did not do 9/11.
I take issue with such a disrespectful approach.
Just because the Islamic Republic of Iran opposes Israel does not mean it is inherently good. Some have adopted the Iranian regime as a hero for defying the GAE, openly fighting Zionists, and opposing LGBT rights.
However, the Islamic Republic of Iran is an illegitimate regime composed of traitors and usurpers. It stands as an enemy to both the West and the Islamic Middle East, as well as to Iran itself. The Islamic Republic must fall one way or another, as they are the enemy here.
Reza Pahlavi was not some "regime change operation"—for fucks sake, he is the rightful ruler of Iran. The Ayatollahs must answer for their crimes as traitors and usurpers of his father, Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. Restoring His Imperial Highness as the ruler of Iran is the just and rightful course of action.
Just because the Islamic Republic of Iran opposes Israel does not mean it is inherently good. Some have adopted the Iranian regime as a hero for defying the GAE, openly fighting Zionists, and opposing LGBT rights.
However, the Islamic Republic of Iran is an illegitimate regime composed of traitors and usurpers. It stands as an enemy to both the West and the Islamic Middle East, as well as to Iran itself. The Islamic Republic must fall one way or another, as they are the enemy here.
Reza Pahlavi was not some "regime change operation"—for fucks sake, he is the rightful ruler of Iran. The Ayatollahs must answer for their crimes as traitors and usurpers of his father, Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. Restoring His Imperial Highness as the ruler of Iran is the just and rightful course of action.
Then the west will install their puppet, and soon Iran can experience LGBTQ parades of perverts dancing naked for their children. They will be forced to take in African immigrants, and promote them within their system, leading to engineering and financial collapse, and a massive crime increase. They will have drag queen story hour, and turn their financial system into fiat currency theft so their own kids cannot even buy a house and start a family one day.
This happens in every country that tries to play nice with the satanic west. Even China took in African immigrants. Why a country that is vastly over-populated with 105 IQ Chinese took in 80 IQ Africans, who just caused problems, is telling of what happens when you work with the west.
I don't know if people around the world are aware of what fighting the west really means. I don't know if they realize what fighting the "great satan" really means. I do know, because I am behind the wall. I am old enough to remember when the USA was a great place to live and raise a family. I would love to talk to the people in the east, an explain to them the hell I have witnessed in my lifetime in the USA. Watching this great country get turned into hell on earth. Watching everything collapse and fall apart. Watching all my hopes and dreams vanish behind fiat currency theft and DEI policies.
Those people need to know how urgent it is to keep the influence of the west the hell out of their country. Whether the current Iranian regime is perfect or not, matters less than keeping the west out. And if the regime does fall, then it will then be ruled by the great satan of the west.
I pray nightly that the great satan will collapse from within. I think it will eventually, probably not in my lifetime, but the cracks are showing. If the west ever regains its way and becomes a good and moral place again, then we can discuss how other countries should live and operate. Until then, we are both hypocritical in telling them how to live, when our own nations are a disaster, and we are pushing our evil ways on to them.
No
No they were not justified.
Thank you, I'm plugged in to The Church and pretty sure I'm getting sufficient counsel from my priest and church community, which includes many other veterans (my priest being one as well) so I think I'm in the right place.
Again I'm not advocating for more war. There's a different between hating the war and loving the warrior.
You're not making sense. Irreversible yet footed by the US Taxpayer? If we're paying for it, by definition it is reversible. Enough tax dollars can fund anything.
The idea that Jews will flee from Israel is also just wishful thinking.
You speak like this is common knowledge and soldiers know what they are signing up for. In reality most are just looking for a career and to serve their country.
Let's keep it simple, is the central bank of Iran independent, and are the assets and ressources of Iran owned by Iran? If so, then their government is legitimate.
That is the case in Iran, one of a handful of countries that aren't part of the global central banking system, and that is why it is the prime target in the Middle East.
The Shah started out as a puppet but became too big for his britches. Iran grew into a modern regional power in the 1970s. Khomeini was groomed in London and France, by installing him in Iran, they could set that country back decades, and use his radical belligerence to wage a war of attrition against another rising power, Iraq, where Saddam was put in place after a ClA coup.
Eventually though, the Iranian mullah regime recovered in peacetime and rebuild, becoming a powerful regional player once again, and a big ZOG target.
His son is a cuck, both figuratively and literally. His father would not approve of this.
You need to factor in few things.
1. Blast radius - an explosion isn't limited to a single address. These missiles had warheads weighing upward of half a tonne causing destruction in a radius of tens of meters from the impact site and damage (shattered windows, flying shrapnel) even further away.
2. Junk falling from the sky - fragments of intercepted (and interceptor) missiles, as well as failed interceptors falling down along the flight path.
3. Jewish lightning.
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Politics aside.
A man who calls others to rise up and risk their lives to deliver him the throne, from the comfort of his LA villa deserves no respect.
It's even worse if that comfort is being provided by a foreign enemy, a whole lot worse.
Reza Pahlavi is not perfect, and of course, he has his flaws. However, compared to the mullahs, he remains the best option for Iran at this moment. As clichéd as it may sound, he is neither aligned with the West nor the Islamists—he is on the side of Iran.
Unfortunately, many people believe the solution is either maintaining the Islamic Republic, which continues to stand against ZOG, or toppling it and replacing it with a democracy. But why not restore the Shah to his rightful throne?
Reza Pahlavi does not seek power out of personal ambition. Rather, as the rightful ruler of Iran, it is his duty to lead his nation, and the people need him. Unlike a presidency, which is a position of privilege attained through winning elections, the role of Shah is a solemn responsibility. He never chose to be born as the Crown Prince of Iran, but God placed him in this position. It is a duty that cannot be abandoned—just as a father or husband cannot forsake his responsibilities.
I truly believe that if the Shah were to reclaim his throne, Iran could restore its past imperial glory while maintaining strong relations with both Middle Eastern countries and the West. He would not necessarily be a puppet, as his father—though initially intended to be one, as you mentioned—ultimately managed to break free and stand for what was best for Iran.
Unfortunately, many people believe the solution is either maintaining the Islamic Republic, which continues to stand against ZOG, or toppling it and replacing it with a democracy. But why not restore the Shah to his rightful throne?
Reza Pahlavi does not seek power out of personal ambition. Rather, as the rightful ruler of Iran, it is his duty to lead his nation, and the people need him. Unlike a presidency, which is a position of privilege attained through winning elections, the role of Shah is a solemn responsibility. He never chose to be born as the Crown Prince of Iran, but God placed him in this position. It is a duty that cannot be abandoned—just as a father or husband cannot forsake his responsibilities.
I truly believe that if the Shah were to reclaim his throne, Iran could restore its past imperial glory while maintaining strong relations with both Middle Eastern countries and the West. He would not necessarily be a puppet, as his father—though initially intended to be one, as you mentioned—ultimately managed to break free and stand for what was best for Iran.
No, you're high on your own supply but it is what it is.
You joined an exclusive club, sponsored by the world hegemon, had your masculinity celebrated, approached untouchable status to civilians and opposing forces, all so you feel motivated to do enforcement for the state with other wet behind the ears guys of your caliber.
Not hard to see why you would feel superior to some dorks who want make a human chain to oppose the government.
While certain things you experienced and went through are admirable, the ragheads are "warriors" too, so show some respect. They don't have carrier groups and Uncle Sam giving them guarantees.
Lest we forget that when too many bodies started dropping in Vietnam - America decided to burn them all out of the jungle, without a care in the world. Not very noble.
Excellent post! Spot on
What does that have to do with anything?
Where did I call anyone a rag heads. You said that not me.
Also go watch a mom blow up her own kids at a check point and tell me about how admirable some of these folks are.
There is nothing "noble" about war. There is only winning.