I'm taking and listening to all the advice in this thread.
It's been perhaps 3 years since I discovered Cole Robinson's 'Snake Diet' and at first was quite excited about it, being shouted at, the chemicals to make the electrolyte 'snake juice' I could order in at a pharmacy (in particular potassium chloride). Also, it worked, the weight and fat came off quite quickly. But am struggling now from a lower weight and fat to go even lower.
Was thinking yesterday that Cole seems to specialise in the truly obese, the real big fat out of control characters. Whatever you choose to do needs to be psychologically bearable. Although I can bear water electrolyte fasting, after many days one can start to feel like a prisoner in a prison yard and my mind starts to ask
what have I done to be punished like this? I personally believe I was fed too much in childhood and placed under stresses that made me turn to chocolate etc. Ruins your insulin response for life and grows too many fat cells. I was fat as a child but mainly thin as an adult but never
cut. Well I was only ever
cut about twice and only briefly when certain circumstances led to it happening.
Ive also done 30 days on home made vegetable juice (using a jack lalanne juicer) and also had great results. It's doable for anyone other than an active construction worker than needs to handle heavy material IMO. An office worker can easily do well on the 1000 calories a day from 1 gallon of vegetable juice made from 10 lbs of vegetables. You can easily lose 20 lbs in a month doing this.
My father (63 years old, 5'9" 190 lbs before) even tried this, with blood work before and after the 30 days of vegetable juice and all his metrics improved even sugar level and a1c, which surprised even the doctor because you can argue he was living off the sugar in vegetables for all 30 days. Even ketones went up, even though all he had for calories was basically sugar from the vegetables.
He juiced 1-2 celery, 4 cucumber, 2 beets, 2 tomato, 1 orange, 8 carrots. Tastes from eh, to ok, to good depending on the person and the ratio of the above. I recommend adding less carrots if you want less sugar, but you do need to get calories from somewhere and carrots and beets have it
Do not forget to add salt to water, or lemon water, or the vegetable juice if you're fasting. You'll get headaches and muscle cramping if you don't.
I am not buying a juicer just yet but am starting to allow bottled vegetable juices at times instead of water electrolyte. Just to help the psychology of it, not the prison yard feel and as mentioned, I'm starting to think that Cole's
extreme measures are more appropriate and sustainable if you really are
extremely fat and can't be trusted at all with anything but basically water and maybe deserve to be treated like a prisoner for a while for your own good. Just the taste of a vegetable juice can be quite a helpful thing for the mind if you have not eaten for a day or two.
I will have 'processed meat' if it is my only option. My wife and I get our beef straight from a farm that is grass fed, grass finished. 1/2 cow at a time.
If you are starting a carnivore diet I would advise you to keep seasoning your meat. At least for the first month or two.
You will also start to get sick of meat if you don't get creative with your recipes.
Very good that you're getting it straight from a farm. I do go for game meats wherever possible and generally avoid chicken. Had a small quantity of very dark processed meat from some game animal yesterday evening (something with antlers). A few people keep mentioning the carnivore diet and you might want to start a thread here, I'd participate a bit. I sometimes have just one hamburger in 24 or 48 hours, whatever the period is. You carnivore guys would however object to a hamburger. Given the components, say, meat pattie, bread bun, lettuce, tomato, and optionally cheese, fried egg, bacon, you guys would object to everything but the meat pattie and egg.
Then, no steak and brocolli as brocolli is forbidden. Is fish allowed? If someone really believes in this maybe start a thread or post a link as some of us don't know quite what you are proposing.
Day 3 of the yohimbine and I'm taking the yohimbine capsule
with the morning coffee. Not that I was wishing for the nasty side effects but at least if you get them you know it is doing something, there's no side effects whatsoever. It's 6 months before its expiry date and it passed the checkmysupps.com test so I'm sure it's the real thing, so it must be that I am just fortunately insensitive. So happy and grateful for that. If I end up with a new batch one day will repeat the cautious half-dose tests.
