Tips to improve self-discipline

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Would anybody agree that there are four main ways to achieving or maintaining good health?

1) Eat healthily - don't consume too many calories and ensure your diet consists of a variety of nutritious food.
2) Exercise - lift weights, stretch and do aerobic exercises that include HIIT.
3) Reduce stress - make time for quiet contemplation, get plenty of sleep, take cold showers and pray.
4) Remove unhealthy habits - don't smoke or take drugs; don't drink alcohol, or at least not excessively; don't maintain toxic relationships or friendships; don't eat junk food (overlaps with diet).

Everyone knows this. It's not rocket science. However, it takes self-discipline.

Good health begins and ends with self-discipline! You know what to do and what not to do, but can you discipline yourself?

This is where I struggle. Therefore, I have created this thread in the hope that forum members will share tips to improve one's self-discipline. 🙏
 
I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
- John 15:5
When you stop living a life in which you are the director and the one with the final say as to your "discipline" you start acting as the body for the head that is Jesus. You become the body - doing what the Head says. You stop living for yourself and start living for All.

It is very easy to stay on track when you have accountability and are doing eveything for a cause outside yourself. Otherwise, you will burn out. You will find yourself falling short again and again, falling to sin after sin.

I fell out of love with "self improvement" a while ago - because you cannot improve without Christ. It becomes a self-flog. You find yourself paralysed.

In walking with Christ, you find you don't have to think about "unhealthy habits" - they don't even cross your mind.
 
2) Exercise - lift weights, stretch and do aerobic exercises that include HIIT.


I am recovering from a stretch of overtraining. My whole body is sore and I vomited 3000+ calories worth of food yesterday. The LORD is chastening me on my bed. I am realizing that intense training might be vanity, a chasing after the wind as the book of Ecclesiastes says.

Let's press toward the mark of the high-calling of God in Christ; but if we become otherwise minded, won't God reveal this to us?
 
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Good health and self-discipline is synonymous with virtue. One thing I have observed is that there is a spiritual law that no one can avoid: vice compounds and so does virtue. Give in to one vice and you'll find it harder to resist another. Sexual sin gives birth to gluttony, which makes it harder to be focused and motivated at work, all of which will produce greater inward emptiness; likewise, when we practice restraint we'll find energy and joy in pursuing virtue. When we deny ourselves something unnecessary we open ourselves to experience something essential. Instead of viewing it as self-denial view it as active pursuit and ricochet off that momentum to do well.
 
Good health and self-discipline is synonymous with virtue. One thing I have observed is that there is a spiritual law that no one can avoid: vice compounds and so does virtue. Give in to one vice and you'll find it harder to resist another. Sexual sin gives birth to gluttony, which makes it harder to be focused and motivated at work, all of which will produce greater inward emptiness; likewise, when we practice restraint we'll find energy and joy in pursuing virtue. When we deny ourselves something unnecessary we open ourselves to experience something essential. Instead of viewing it as self-denial view it as active pursuit and ricochet off that momentum to do well.
I can attest to this: whenever you drink or smoke weed for example, it is simple to fall into lust or gluttony as you have "slipped up, oh well!" and pull yourself down even further.

It takes willpower to bring you back onto the path, some spiral downwards for a long time. It is imperative that you get right back on the horse after falling off. Pray, exercise, read scripture, fast. Get back on the road to becoming the Ultimate You, not tomorrow, not next week, but right now.
 
When you stop living a life in which you are the director and the one with the final say as to your "discipline" you start acting as the body for the head that is Jesus. You become the body - doing what the Head says. You stop living for yourself and start living for All.

It is very easy to stay on track when you have accountability and are doing eveything for a cause outside yourself. Otherwise, you will burn out. You will find yourself falling short again and again, falling to sin after sin.

I fell out of love with "self improvement" a while ago - because you cannot improve without Christ. It becomes a self-flog. You find yourself paralysed.

In walking with Christ, you find you don't have to think about "unhealthy habits" - they don't even cross your mind.
I am finding myself in a similar situation where I am falling out of love with self-improvement. I was thinking on this yesterday. When left to my own devices I spent my time playing video games and eating junk food. Then I feel frantic at the end of the day. It doesn't even matter if I've worked out or journaled or read books. I realized I could do nothing on my own and have a faith problem, not a self-discipline problem.

I was remembering something Roosh said in an interview a year ago where the guy asked what advice Roosh had for guys trying to get dates now and Roosh advised against asking girls out and playing the secular game of trying to pick girls up. As I mulled this over and then thought about self-improvement and how decades of looking into self-improvement, reading the books, following the gurus, I didn't seem to have improved at all.

And for what end? To self-improve as a secular with no hope or belief in God, you have to be super fit and attractive to get a woman. You have to work long hours and develop marketable skills to make a lot of money. A lot of these people have incredibly high standards so that they can gain the whole world because they have no God to lean on for their needs. Everything must be self provided, so then you learn about how many of them became willing to lie and cheat their way to the top. When this life is all there is you have to pull out all the stops in order to get what you want.

I was looking up self-help people to see if there was a Jewish connection, because self-help seems to be a type of spiritual inversion where one leans and relies upon oneself instead of God. But I did not find a connection. It does seem to produce more and more inward focus, the navel-gazing and masturbation aspects of self-improvement I've heard others harp on before.
 
I've had the last couple months off work being unemployed but getting starting new job in a few weeks. This down period without work has actually been quite a nice trial run of what retirement may be like for me in about 10-15 years. Its wonderful to have nearly complete freedom of your day to choose when and what you will do. Over this period, the one thing I was most excited about was having the free time to enjoy more leisure time (not to be confused with lazy time). Exploring around the area, chatting with locals in shops, pursuing other hobbies and interests etc. Basically things that aren't working/doing chores or projects but also not sitting on my butt, surfing websites, Youtube binges and such.

For me personally, it has been kinda a strange observation on how my day to day patterns of activity change over time. Over the months, I tended to replace more of my leisure enjoyment time with lazy time. I still would take care of chores/projects as needed, even found myself fulfilling Parkinson's Law and filled the time void by creating "nice to have/nice to do" work, but for some reason I lost energy and motivation to persuing things I really enjoy, and replaced those hours more frequently with just resting/being lazy when I wasn't working on something. And 90% of the time, I wasn't doing anything strenuous where I needed to rest. When I would "force" myself to go out and do something enjoyable it was always a better day than taking several 1-2 hr. breaks during the day between projects/chores to watch TV/surf the web, but for some reason that is where I found myself more frequently gravitating to.

So definetly need to address this finding before I do the full retirement thing as I don't want to slide into a similar downward rut. Any suggestions?
 
I've had the last couple months off work being unemployed but getting starting new job in a few weeks. This down period without work has actually been quite a nice trial run of what retirement may be like for me in about 10-15 years. Its wonderful to have nearly complete freedom of your day to choose when and what you will do. Over this period, the one thing I was most excited about was having the free time to enjoy more leisure time (not to be confused with lazy time). Exploring around the area, chatting with locals in shops, pursuing other hobbies and interests etc. Basically things that aren't working/doing chores or projects but also not sitting on my butt, surfing websites, Youtube binges and such.

For me personally, it has been kinda a strange observation on how my day to day patterns of activity change over time. Over the months, I tended to replace more of my leisure enjoyment time with lazy time. I still would take care of chores/projects as needed, even found myself fulfilling Parkinson's Law and filled the time void by creating "nice to have/nice to do" work, but for some reason I lost energy and motivation to persuing things I really enjoy, and replaced those hours more frequently with just resting/being lazy when I wasn't working on something. And 90% of the time, I wasn't doing anything strenuous where I needed to rest. When I would "force" myself to go out and do something enjoyable it was always a better day than taking several 1-2 hr. breaks during the day between projects/chores to watch TV/surf the web, but for some reason that is where I found myself more frequently gravitating to.

So definetly need to address this finding before I do the full retirement thing as I don't want to slide into a similar downward rut. Any suggestions?

Good post. I appreciate the humility and openness.

General Principles

It's hard to make specific suggestions without knowing more about your personal situation or preferences. Knowing more about your life, goals, values, barriers, opportunities etc may enable others to offer you more tailored advice.

That said, for your consideration, here are some general principles and topics that are strongly connected to motivation, willpower, and behavioural activation.

Social Contact

Do you enjoy activities with friends or other people? Are you involved in church groups? By setting an appointment or making a plan with someone else, you can force yourself to get up and get out of the house on a regular basis through calling upon the principle of other-oriented accountability. Social contact is also important for maintaining mental and physical health.

Health

How is your daily health and energy levels? If you're not sleeping well and exercising regularly, it is probably going to be an uphill battle to get sufficient energy and to be motivated every day.

Purpose

Are your hobbies, interests, and/or work related to a greater purpose that you personally identify with? Is there a bigger mission that you feel called to? Linking these activities to a goal, vision, or process that gives you meaning and intrinsic satisfaction will enhance the probability that you can maintain these behaviours over the longer term.



More resources

1. Dr Andrew Huberman: Controlling Your Dopamine For Motivation, Focus & Satisfaction



^ Timestamped after the introductory sponsorship bit

This episode serves as a sort of “Dopamine Masterclass.” Dr. Huberman discusses the immensely powerful chemical that we all make in our brain and body: dopamine. He describes what it does and the neural circuits involved. He explains dopamine peaks and baselines and the cell biology of dopamine depletion. Dr. Huberman includes 14 tools for how to control your dopamine release for the sake of motivation, focus, avoiding and combating addiction and depression. He explains why dopamine stacking with chemicals and behaviors inevitably leads to states of underwhelm and poor performance. He explains how to achieve sustained increases in baseline dopamine, compounds that injure and protect dopamine neurons, including caffeine, from specific sources. Dr. Huberman describes non-prescription supplements for increasing dopamine—both their benefits and risks—and the synergy of pro-dopamine supplements with those that increase acetylcholine.

Timestamps
  • 00:00:00 Introduction & Tool 1 to Induce Lasting Dopamine
  • 00:04:48 Sponsors: Roka, InsideTracker, Headspace
  • 00:09:10 Upcoming (Zero-Cost) Neuroplasticity Seminar for Educators
  • 00:09:58 What Dopamine (Really) Does
  • 00:15:30 Two Main Neural Circuits for Dopamine
  • 00:18:14 How Dopamine Is Released: Locally and Broadly
  • 00:22:03 Fast and Slow Effects of Dopamine
  • 00:25:03 Dopamine Neurons Co-Release Glutamate
  • 00:28:00 Your Dopamine History Really Matters
  • 00:30:30 Parkinson’s & Drugs That Kill Dopamine Neurons. My Dopamine Experience
  • 00:36:58 Tool 3 Controlling Dopamine Peaks & Baselines
  • 00:40:06 Chocolate, Sex (Pursuit & Behavior), Nicotine, Cocaine, Amphetamine, Exercise
  • 00:46:46 Tool 4 Caffeine Increases Dopamine Receptors
  • 00:49:54 Pursuit, Excitement & Your “Dopamine Setpoint”
  • 00:56:46 Your Pleasure-Pain Balance & Defining “Pain”
  • 01:00:00 Addiction, Dopamine Depletion, & Replenishing Dopamine
  • 01:07:50 Tool 5 Ensure Your Best (Healthy) Dopamine Release
  • 01:15:28 Smart Phones: How They Alter Our Dopamine Circuits
  • 01:19:45 Stimulants & Spiking Dopamine: Counterproductive for Work, Exercise & Attention
  • 01:22:20 Caffeine Sources Matter: Yerba Mate & Dopamine Neuron Protection
  • 01:24:20 Caffeine & Neurotoxicity of MDMA
  • 01:26:15 Amphetamine, Cocaine & Detrimental Rewiring of Dopamine Circuits
  • 01:27:57 Ritalin, Adderall, (Ar)Modafinil: ADHD versus non-Prescription Uses
  • 01:28:45 Tool 6 Stimulating Long-Lasting Increases in Baseline Dopamine
  • 01:37:55 Tool 7 Tuning Your Dopamine for Ongoing Motivation
  • 01:47:40 Tool 8 Intermittent Fasting: Effects on Dopamine
  • 01:53:09 Validation of Your Pre-Existing Beliefs Increases Dopamine
  • 01:53:50 Tool 9 Quitting Sugar & Highly Palatable Foods: 48 Hours
  • 01:55:36 Pornography
  • 01:56:50 Wellbutrin & Depression & Anxiety
  • 01:58:30 Tool 10 Mucuna Pruriens, Prolactin, Sperm, Crash Warning
  • 02:01:45 Tool 11 L-Tyrosine: Dosages, Duration of Effects & Specificity
  • 02:05:20 Tool 12 Avoiding Melatonin Supplementation, & Avoiding Light 10pm-4am
  • 02:07:00 Tool 13 Phenylethylamine (with Alpha-GPC) For Dopamine Focus/Energy
  • 02:08:20 Tool 14 Huperzine A
  • 02:10:02 Social Connections, Oxytocin & Dopamine Release
  • 02:12:20 Direct & Indirect Effects: e.g., Maca; Synthesis & Application
  • 02:14:22 Zero-Cost & Other Ways To Support Podcast & Research


2. Dr. Adam Grant: How to Unlock Your Potential, Motivation & Unique Abilities



^ Timestamped after the introductory sponsorship bit

In this episode, my guest is Dr. Adam Grant, Ph.D., a professor of organizational psychology at The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, an expert in the science and practical steps for increasing motivation, maximizing and reaching our potential, and understanding how individuals and groups can best flourish. He is also an avid public educator, having written five bestselling books, delivered several top-ranking TED Talks and is the host of two psychology podcasts. We discuss how to overcome procrastination, how to increase intrinsic motivation (even for dreaded tasks), identify blind spots and rethink our assumptions, and how we can build a persistent growth mindset. We also explain tools to improve creativity and discuss the surprising relationship between creativity and procrastination. We then explore how to effectively solicit useful feedback and grow from constructive criticism and how you can improve your level of focus and attention using science-supported methods. We also discuss mental tools to get out of negative thought spirals, how to nurture potential in yourself or others, and the dark side of perfectionism. The discussion delivers more than a dozen science-supported protocols that are readily applicable to anyone seeking to live a more productive, fulfilling, and creative life


Timestamps


  • 00:00:00 Dr. Adam Grant
  • 00:01:37 Sponsors: Eight Sleep, Levels & Waking Up
  • 00:05:56 Procrastination & Emotion; Curiosity
  • 00:14:06 Creativity & Procrastination; Motivation
  • 00:20:48 Intrinsic Motivation & Curiosity
  • 00:27:59 Tool: Tasks & Sense of Purpose
  • 00:30:52 Sponsor: AG1
  • 00:32:34 Extrinsic Rewards, Choice; Social Media
  • 00:42:24 Tool: “Quiet Time” Protocol, Chronotypes
  • 00:49:20 Tool: Creativity: Mornings, Movement, Stillness
  • 00:57:05 Sponsor: InsideTracker
  • 00:58:14 Tools: Ideas & Filtering, Feedback & Opinions, Advice
  • 01:07:15 Tool: Constructive Criticism, “Second Score”; Verbs
  • 01:14:40 Tool: Growth Mindsets, Scaffolding; Job Innovation
  • 01:21:50 Tools: Task Sequencing & Intrinsic Motivation; Tapering & Frame of Reference
  • 01:30:03 Tools: Momentum, Confidence & Domains; Negative Thought Spirals
  • 01:36:16 Tool: Phone & “To Don’t” List; Writing Ideas
  • 01:39:54 Tool: Bias Blindspot, Reflected Best-Self Portrait
  • 01:45:36 Helping Others, Synthesizing Information
  • 01:50:24 Modes of Thinking, Blind Spots & Assumptions
  • 01:56:10 Thinking Like a Scientist: Hypothesis-Testing & Discourse, Social Media
  • 02:05:15 Tool: Authenticity, Sincerity & Etiquette, “Snapshot” & Online Presence
  • 02:12:49 Realizing Potential: Motivation, Opportunity & Process
  • 02:21:53 Skills to Realize Potential, Perfectionism
  • 02:27:52 Tool: Early Success & Performance Cycle, “Failure Budget”
  • 02:31:56 Future Projects, Complex Issues & Challenging Ideas
  • 02:40:10 Artistic Hobbies, Magicians
  • 02:45:55 Science Communication, Interest & Self-Relevance
  • 02:52:16 Languishing, Descriptive Language & Emotions
  • 03:00:09 Tool: Nurture Potential in Children, “Coach Effect”
  • 03:10:16 Zero-Cost Support, Spotify & Apple Reviews, Sponsors, YouTube Feedback, Momentous, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter
Journal Articles
Other Resources
 
Good post. I appreciate the humility and openness.

General Principles

It's hard to make specific suggestions without knowing more about your personal situation or preferences. Knowing more about your life, goals, values, barriers, opportunities etc may enable others to offer you more tailored advice.

That said, for your consideration, here are some general principles and topics that are strongly connected to motivation, willpower, and behavioural activation.

Social Contact

Do you enjoy activities with friends or other people? Are you involved in church groups? By setting an appointment or making a plan with someone else, you can force yourself to get up and get out of the house on a regular basis through calling upon the principle of other-oriented accountability. Social contact is also important for maintaining mental and physical health.

Health

How is your daily health and energy levels? If you're not sleeping well and exercising regularly, it is probably going to be an uphill battle to get sufficient energy and to be motivated every day.

Purpose

Are your hobbies, interests, and/or work related to a greater purpose that you personally identify with? Is there a bigger mission that you feel called to? Linking these activities to a goal, vision, or process that gives you meaning and intrinsic satisfaction will enhance the probability that you can maintain these behaviours over the longer term.



More resources

1. Dr Andrew Huberman: Controlling Your Dopamine For Motivation, Focus & Satisfaction



^ Timestamped after the introductory sponsorship bit



Timestamps
  • 00:00:00 Introduction & Tool 1 to Induce Lasting Dopamine
  • 00:04:48 Sponsors: Roka, InsideTracker, Headspace
  • 00:09:10 Upcoming (Zero-Cost) Neuroplasticity Seminar for Educators
  • 00:09:58 What Dopamine (Really) Does
  • 00:15:30 Two Main Neural Circuits for Dopamine
  • 00:18:14 How Dopamine Is Released: Locally and Broadly
  • 00:22:03 Fast and Slow Effects of Dopamine
  • 00:25:03 Dopamine Neurons Co-Release Glutamate
  • 00:28:00 Your Dopamine History Really Matters
  • 00:30:30 Parkinson’s & Drugs That Kill Dopamine Neurons. My Dopamine Experience
  • 00:36:58 Tool 3 Controlling Dopamine Peaks & Baselines
  • 00:40:06 Chocolate, Sex (Pursuit & Behavior), Nicotine, Cocaine, Amphetamine, Exercise
  • 00:46:46 Tool 4 Caffeine Increases Dopamine Receptors
  • 00:49:54 Pursuit, Excitement & Your “Dopamine Setpoint”
  • 00:56:46 Your Pleasure-Pain Balance & Defining “Pain”
  • 01:00:00 Addiction, Dopamine Depletion, & Replenishing Dopamine
  • 01:07:50 Tool 5 Ensure Your Best (Healthy) Dopamine Release
  • 01:15:28 Smart Phones: How They Alter Our Dopamine Circuits
  • 01:19:45 Stimulants & Spiking Dopamine: Counterproductive for Work, Exercise & Attention
  • 01:22:20 Caffeine Sources Matter: Yerba Mate & Dopamine Neuron Protection
  • 01:24:20 Caffeine & Neurotoxicity of MDMA
  • 01:26:15 Amphetamine, Cocaine & Detrimental Rewiring of Dopamine Circuits
  • 01:27:57 Ritalin, Adderall, (Ar)Modafinil: ADHD versus non-Prescription Uses
  • 01:28:45 Tool 6 Stimulating Long-Lasting Increases in Baseline Dopamine
  • 01:37:55 Tool 7 Tuning Your Dopamine for Ongoing Motivation
  • 01:47:40 Tool 8 Intermittent Fasting: Effects on Dopamine
  • 01:53:09 Validation of Your Pre-Existing Beliefs Increases Dopamine
  • 01:53:50 Tool 9 Quitting Sugar & Highly Palatable Foods: 48 Hours
  • 01:55:36 Pornography
  • 01:56:50 Wellbutrin & Depression & Anxiety
  • 01:58:30 Tool 10 Mucuna Pruriens, Prolactin, Sperm, Crash Warning
  • 02:01:45 Tool 11 L-Tyrosine: Dosages, Duration of Effects & Specificity
  • 02:05:20 Tool 12 Avoiding Melatonin Supplementation, & Avoiding Light 10pm-4am
  • 02:07:00 Tool 13 Phenylethylamine (with Alpha-GPC) For Dopamine Focus/Energy
  • 02:08:20 Tool 14 Huperzine A
  • 02:10:02 Social Connections, Oxytocin & Dopamine Release
  • 02:12:20 Direct & Indirect Effects: e.g., Maca; Synthesis & Application
  • 02:14:22 Zero-Cost & Other Ways To Support Podcast & Research


2. Dr. Adam Grant: How to Unlock Your Potential, Motivation & Unique Abilities



^ Timestamped after the introductory sponsorship bit



Timestamps

  • 00:00:00 Dr. Adam Grant
  • 00:01:37 Sponsors: Eight Sleep, Levels & Waking Up
  • 00:05:56 Procrastination & Emotion; Curiosity
  • 00:14:06 Creativity & Procrastination; Motivation
  • 00:20:48 Intrinsic Motivation & Curiosity
  • 00:27:59 Tool: Tasks & Sense of Purpose
  • 00:30:52 Sponsor: AG1
  • 00:32:34 Extrinsic Rewards, Choice; Social Media
  • 00:42:24 Tool: “Quiet Time” Protocol, Chronotypes
  • 00:49:20 Tool: Creativity: Mornings, Movement, Stillness
  • 00:57:05 Sponsor: InsideTracker
  • 00:58:14 Tools: Ideas & Filtering, Feedback & Opinions, Advice
  • 01:07:15 Tool: Constructive Criticism, “Second Score”; Verbs
  • 01:14:40 Tool: Growth Mindsets, Scaffolding; Job Innovation
  • 01:21:50 Tools: Task Sequencing & Intrinsic Motivation; Tapering & Frame of Reference
  • 01:30:03 Tools: Momentum, Confidence & Domains; Negative Thought Spirals
  • 01:36:16 Tool: Phone & “To Don’t” List; Writing Ideas
  • 01:39:54 Tool: Bias Blindspot, Reflected Best-Self Portrait
  • 01:45:36 Helping Others, Synthesizing Information
  • 01:50:24 Modes of Thinking, Blind Spots & Assumptions
  • 01:56:10 Thinking Like a Scientist: Hypothesis-Testing & Discourse, Social Media
  • 02:05:15 Tool: Authenticity, Sincerity & Etiquette, “Snapshot” & Online Presence
  • 02:12:49 Realizing Potential: Motivation, Opportunity & Process
  • 02:21:53 Skills to Realize Potential, Perfectionism
  • 02:27:52 Tool: Early Success & Performance Cycle, “Failure Budget”
  • 02:31:56 Future Projects, Complex Issues & Challenging Ideas
  • 02:40:10 Artistic Hobbies, Magicians
  • 02:45:55 Science Communication, Interest & Self-Relevance
  • 02:52:16 Languishing, Descriptive Language & Emotions
  • 03:00:09 Tool: Nurture Potential in Children, “Coach Effect”
  • 03:10:16 Zero-Cost Support, Spotify & Apple Reviews, Sponsors, YouTube Feedback, Momentous, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter
Journal Articles
Other Resources

Thanks for info. I'm a fan of Huberman podcasts and have watched many over last couple of years. Just to hit on some of your insights:

Social - I tend to be quite socialble but only 1 on 1 or small groups. Large groups exhaust me and cause anxiety (someone coined the term "intimate extrovert"). In fact I probably reach out to friends and family to get together equal to more than they reach out to me. Don't think this is much an issue, but I am happiest with frequent social time (like 2-3x a week meet ups with friends and family seems about my sweet spot for socialization).

Health - Is say I'm ok here,, I sleep well, eat a moderately healthy diet, and unless work issues arise I generally try to maintain a lifestyle to provide low stress daily existance when in my control as I'm prone to anxiety easily, usually do to being forced to do too much in too short a timeframe. I don't run a good "2 minute drill" to use a football analogy. I do at least 1-2 hrs. of "on my feet" physical chores and projects each day. Also while I've been out of work, I've been helping with home improvement related projects for some elderly family members, so at least a few times a week I have scheduled time to go over to their houses to help them out with things. I could be do more cardio exercise (which I hate doing) and strength training seems to be very inconsistent.

Purpose / hobbies - For hobbies, it seems over the course of my life I have a 10 year shelf life on passion for a hobby. Then I lose passion for it and move on to something new that I get very passionate /excited about. I've juggled maybe 2-3 hobbies earlier in life that I was really into, but I'd say the last 2-3 years, I haven't really found a new passion just yet. So in retirement I'm thinking that I need to schedule at least 1-2 times a week (maybe 1/2 day each?) to volunteer or work part time for something I'm passionate about. Just don't know specifically at this time. For work, what I have experience at and what I'm good at, not really very enjoyable and I wouldn't want to do it as a 1099 or LLC post-retirement. Try to find hobbies that my wife and I both enjoy. Travel is definitely our greatest passion and planning trips really is fun for me, I'll spend countless hours over months preparing. Costs and ability to get leave from work throw a wrench into this as a regular thing. With good health in early retirement, I'd love to travel with my wife at least 3-4 times a year (5-10 day vacays each time) to somewhere interesting and new. Perhaps doing some mission work could kill 2 birds with one stone here? Again health and ability to do this in 10-15 years would be the primary roadblock.
 
There is a lot of great information here, but I want to add, what I believe is the secret of life, which is gratitude. The more you practice gratitude, the easier it becomes, then that will flow through everything else.

If you are grateful for what you have, you will spend less energy looking elsewhere for fulfillment. When you stop looking elsewhere for fulfillment, discipline will come second nature without even thinking about it.
 
Thanks for info. I'm a fan of Huberman podcasts and have watched many over last couple of years.

Good to hear that.

Just to hit on some of your insights:

Social - I tend to be quite socialble but only 1 on 1 or small groups. Large groups exhaust me and cause anxiety (someone coined the term "intimate extrovert"). In fact I probably reach out to friends and family to get together equal to more than they reach out to me. Don't think this is much an issue, but I am happiest with frequent social time (like 2-3x a week meet ups with friends and family seems about my sweet spot for socialization).

Nice. Looks like things are going well here.

Health - Is say I'm ok here,, I sleep well, eat a moderately healthy diet, and unless work issues arise I generally try to maintain a lifestyle to provide low stress daily existance when in my control as I'm prone to anxiety easily, usually do to being forced to do too much in too short a timeframe. I don't run a good "2 minute drill" to use a football analogy. I do at least 1-2 hrs. of "on my feet" physical chores and projects each day. Also while I've been out of work, I've been helping with home improvement related projects for some elderly family members, so at least a few times a week I have scheduled time to go over to their houses to help them out with things. I could be do more cardio exercise (which I hate doing) and strength training seems to be very inconsistent.

Sounds like you've already got a strong sense of self awareness and confidence built up over the years, while understanding the best environments that you flourish in.

Because cardio seems less enjoyable for you, one potential implication is that, since you're unlikely to be doing this habitually, you may gain tangible benefits from doing more of it.

Depending on your invididual circumstances, it may be useful to add another reason to do cardio exercise:

How does exercise help ease anxiety?

  • Engaging in exercise diverts you from the very thing you are anxious about.
  • Moving your body decreases muscle tension, lowering the body’s contribution to feeling anxious.
  • Getting your heart rate up changes brain chemistry, increasing the availability of important anti-anxiety neurochemicals, including serotonin, gamma aminobutyric acid (GABA), brain-derived neurotrophic factor (BDNF), and endocannabinoids.
  • Exercise activates frontal regions of the brain responsible for executive function, which helps control the amygdala, our reacting system to real or imagined threats to our survival.
  • Exercising regularly builds up resources that bolster resilience against stormy emotions.

Regular cardio can also lower your blood pressure:
A recent study comprising a decade’s worth of datasets found that anyone can lower their BP with regular aerobic exercise, whether their BP is normal, or they’re prehypertensive or hypertensive.

Examples of cardio exercise to lower blood pressure include:

Cycling
Running
Walking
Hiking
Rowing
Shadowboxing
Dance Cardio
Swimming

The American Heart Association recommends getting at least 150 minutes of moderate aerobic activity or 75 minutes of vigorous aerobic activity each week. But if you’re brand new to exercising, you’ll want to slowly build up to that goal, rather than immediately diving into hours of exercise at once.

The link between anxiety, blood pressure, cardio and your original question, which seems to relate to languishing, may not be straightforward at first glance. That said, there is evidence to link them together in more indirect ways. To put it simply:

More cardio -> better health, less anxiety -> greater energy and openness -> more capacity to explore new ideas and try out new things.

Other forms of movement and exercise, such as resistance training, stretching, massage, etc (depending on what suits your personal circumstances) will complete the overall training package.

Purpose / hobbies - For hobbies, it seems over the course of my life I have a 10 year shelf life on passion for a hobby. Then I lose passion for it and move on to something new that I get very passionate /excited about. I've juggled maybe 2-3 hobbies earlier in life that I was really into, but I'd say the last 2-3 years, I haven't really found a new passion just yet. So in retirement I'm thinking that I need to schedule at least 1-2 times a week (maybe 1/2 day each?) to volunteer or work part time for something I'm passionate about. Just don't know specifically at this time. For work, what I have experience at and what I'm good at, not really very enjoyable and I wouldn't want to do it as a 1099 or LLC post-retirement. Try to find hobbies that my wife and I both enjoy. Travel is definitely our greatest passion and planning trips really is fun for me, I'll spend countless hours over months preparing. Costs and ability to get leave from work throw a wrench into this as a regular thing. With good health in early retirement, I'd love to travel with my wife at least 3-4 times a year (5-10 day vacays each time) to somewhere interesting and new. Perhaps doing some mission work could kill 2 birds with one stone here?

Solid reflections. Seems like you'll have a lot of time to consider and plan some more adventures and missions or more meaningful paid work in the coming years. If you're about to start a new job, the coming weeks may give you an opportunity to try something out before you get back into work mode.

This site shows some examples of how travelling and a Christian mission could be combined:
^ I have no affiliation with this site, just sharing something I found.

Again health and ability to do this in 10-15 years would be the primary roadblock.

This is a LONG time frame to look ahead and plan for. With that in mind, I'll come back to the point about health, because even if you find some activities now, your abilities, motivations, and opportunities may change after a decade.

Above all, enhancing and maintaining a reasonable level of wellbeing will be the foundation underlying all other future pursuits. If you can prioritise your physical health, mental fitness, and daily energy on a consistent basis, you'll be able to work out the things to do when the time is right (i.e. when you can start taking concrete action steps).

I hope these post are useful for inspiring some ideas for you. All the best.
 
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Remember that humility isn't about hating yourself.

God created you, so while you are not important compared to God, or indeed any more important than any other of Gods creations, you were still created by him.

God wants you to love your neighbour like you love yourself. Do not love sin, but it cannot be said you love your neighbour if you love yourself.

If you do this, then you will not tolerate sinning, for how could it be allowed that one of Gods beloved creations sins against him?

How could you accept mediocrity when God gave you so much even when you have done so little?

That's my take on things at least.
 
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