Thread for Heritage Americans

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It was very unusual for an average European to see a non-White person. You are talking about extreme circumstances and the reaction by the Europeans was brutal and lead to a lot of bloodshed as a result. Even then, of then, of the millions of Europeans who lived in Europe from the beginning of time until 1945, that encountered non-Whites in a group large enough to display their own preferences, were tiny, and of those who did, they did not approve of these preferences, such as the Moors being run out of Spain.

My point being that for thousands of years, Europeans never thought of themselves as "White" because it was never a real question posed to them. Technology dictated that most of their life was in the same village and their biggest threat was an invasion by other Whites from a neighboring kingdom and eventually nation. It hasn't been, until the last 30 to 40 years, that enough non-Whites have moved into Europe, to make them setup their own enclaves, to allow the native Europeans to realize both how different they are, and how long term this isn't going to work out. And now they are starting to identify as White. This is a new pattern in Europe, though it has existed in the western hemisphere much longer because there were already numbers of non-Whites forming their own enclaves and the difference was stark.

Europeans once thought of American Whites as just racist backwards uneducated hicks. Now that large sections of European cities have become non-go zones, just like in the USA, and crime is sky rocketing, and the invaders are bankrupting the socialist system by having 5 kids with no job, attitudes are changing quickly.

And that is my simple point. It is all human nature. If 100 Africans move to London, they will be seen as celebrities. People wanting to talk to them, wanting to help them, wanting to welcome them. And most likely these 100 Africans will fit in for the most part and there will be no issues. But when you bring in 100,000 Africans and they form their own enclaves and crime skyrockets and people's grandmothers get mugged and statues of their hero's are torn down to appease them, then you see a whole new outlook and attitude arise.

I think you're right that for most of antiquity and the middle ages it was very rare for the typical European to see a nonwhite person or have much idea of how such a person might look. Even my mother, who grew up in the Mountain West of the US in the 1950s and 1960s once told me that until she left for the East Coast when she was around 20 years old, she'd only seen nonwhite people once or twice in her life.

It makes me think of how liberals and leftists will sometimes lose it about traditional depictions of Jesus as white and European. Leaving aside the fact that I think it's very hard to say exactly what the typical skin tone was in a given region of the world millennia ago, of course Europeans would have depicted Jesus as looking like them because they mostly had at best a vague idea of what non-Europeans might have looked like, if they had any idea at all. Similar to how when Asian Christians depicted Christ in previous centuries he looked, not surprisingly, Asian.

 

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I think you're right that for most of antiquity and the middle ages it was very rare for the typical European to see a nonwhite person or have much idea of how such a person might look. Even my mother, who grew up in the Mountain West of the US in the 1950s and 1960s once told me that until she left for the East Coast when she was around 20 years old, she'd only seen nonwhite people once or twice in her life.

It makes me think of how liberals and leftists will sometimes lose it about traditional depictions of Jesus as white and European. Leaving aside the fact that I think it's very hard to say exactly what the typical skin tone was in a given region of the world millennia ago, of course Europeans would have depicted Jesus as looking like them because they mostly had at best a vague idea of what non-Europeans might have looked like, if they had any idea at all. Similar to how when Asian Christians depicted Christ in previous centuries he looked, not surprisingly, Asian.

If you talk to a lot of liberal White boomers in the USA, especially those who stayed in small towns, their only real interaction with non-Whites is either a few random high IQ non-Whites in professional settings, like going to a doctor or an accountant, or via the TV. And this is in 2025 in the USA. It is a weird experience to talk to them, they are like the last of a dying age of people who have little to no connection outside of their little bubble. They are mostly not on the internet and see the same people and town most every day of their life. The bubble they live in is really remarkable, they know so little of the outside world, yet because of the TV, they think they know everything. It is a very interesting case study in how people would have thought hundreds of years ago, minus the TV brainwashing.

Whereas most young Whites in the west have a wide birth of experience in dealing with non-Whites and they are forming their own opinions. It really is an interesting time in history, to have these two very diametrically opposed ways of living sharing the same time frame and even neighborhoods.

Like my rural hometown, that was 99% White when I grew up there, a lot of people idolized Black athletes, rappers, etc. It was an unknown, it was seen as cool, it was pushed by the media, it was just normal. Now, when I go back, the town is less White, the internet, BLM riots, and crime is bringing reality, and a lot of the young White men are much more into a cowboy western look, don't care much about sports, listen to country or rock music and have no desire to leave the area, unless for another rural area. It makes me feel old.

 

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To get back on topic:

I think you mean here, "What does it mean to be Heritage American?" And the answer is to be a White descended from Europe.

But this argument leaves out the slaves, who were here longer than most Whites who came later.

What does it mean to be White:

To be wholly of European lineage/ancestry

What does it mean to be Heritage American:

The term Heritage American generally refers to people descended from the early British settlers and colonies. But I personally believe that Europeans who immigrated and settled/homesteaded after that up to the Industrial Revolution could probably fall into that category.