The Vladimir Putin Thread

Well youre effectively an atheist based off your posts...

I've met several African Orthodox Christians.

I'll take all of them over 1 if you.


Would you take Haitians or Congolese over these Muslim Russian citizens?

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Nor can he stop the population replacement in his own country as he kisses the Quran.

PootiePoot isn't wrong about UK.

But he's got a lot of problems also in his own space.

Just saying....


This is a leader who has built 30,000 churches and killed well over 100,000 Muslims in his country, crushing a foreign-led jihadi rebellion in Chechnya. Russia is still the subject of constant 4th generation warfare from ((NATO)) targeting one of their soft underbellies, their 20M strong Muslim minority. Putin is a providential leader who has managed to revive Christian Russia while it was on the verge of being completely dismantled, he is a leader who commands today the full loyalty of the great majority of Russian citizens including their Muslims because he respects them and acknowledges them as a full part of Russia, which they are, having been part of that country for over a millenium.

One thing you won't ever see Putin doing is avoiding to swear in on the Bible.


Has Trump ever crossed himself?? Is Trump even Christian, considering he has had a lifelong kabbala teacher whom he looks up to as a mentor?

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Would you take Haitians or Congolese over these Muslim Russian citizens?

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This is a leader who has built 30,000 churches and killed well over 100,000 Muslims in his country, crushing a foreign-led jihadi rebellion in Chechnya. Russia is still the subject of constant 4th generation warfare from ((NATO)) targeting one of their soft underbellies, their 20M strong Muslim minority. Putin is a providential leader who has managed to revive Christian Russia while it was on the verge of being completely dismantled, he is a leader who commands today the full loyalty of the great majority of Russian citizens including their Muslims because he respects them and acknowledges them as a full part of Russia, which they are, having been part of that country for over a millenium.

One thing you won't ever see Putin doing is avoiding to swear in on the Bible.


Has Trump ever crossed himself?? Is Trump even Christian, considering he has had a lifelong kabbala teacher whom he looks up to as a mentor?

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Well put. While I’m sure Putins image has been whitewashed considering he was former KGB, there’s no questioning of his leadership and reviving Russia. The Muslim faction is also very loyal to Russian interests. I also always remember this video from Kadyrov



All of our politicians and political leaders on both sides here in the US instead are worshipping at the homos feet.
 
Would you take Haitians or Congolese over these Muslim Russian citizens?

Circassian_children.jpg






This is a leader who has built 30,000 churches and killed well over 100,000 Muslims in his country, crushing a foreign-led jihadi rebellion in Chechnya. Russia is still the subject of constant 4th generation warfare from ((NATO)) targeting one of their soft underbellies, their 20M strong Muslim minority. Putin is a providential leader who has managed to revive Christian Russia while it was on the verge of being completely dismantled, he is a leader who commands today the full loyalty of the great majority of Russian citizens including their Muslims because he respects them and acknowledges them as a full part of Russia, which they are, having been part of that country for over a millenium.

One thing you won't ever see Putin doing is avoiding to swear in on the Bible.


Has Trump ever crossed himself?? Is Trump even Christian, considering he has had a lifelong kabbala teacher whom he looks up to as a mentor?

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This is rich.

Me thinks though doth protest too much. The Bible thing with Trump has been talked about before, and I don't believe that's a contextually complete assertion but it's great for the photo op I suppose ....

Refining it back in ...My point stands.

Kissing the quran is blasphemy...and Russians rely on immigrant labor for their work force.

So new boss is the same as the old boss here Jack.
 
Would you take Haitians or Congolese over these Muslim Russian citizens?

Circassian_children.jpg






This is a leader who has built 30,000 churches and killed well over 100,000 Muslims in his country, crushing a foreign-led jihadi rebellion in Chechnya. Russia is still the subject of constant 4th generation warfare from ((NATO)) targeting one of their soft underbellies, their 20M strong Muslim minority. Putin is a providential leader who has managed to revive Christian Russia while it was on the verge of being completely dismantled, he is a leader who commands today the full loyalty of the great majority of Russian citizens including their Muslims because he respects them and acknowledges them as a full part of Russia, which they are, having been part of that country for over a millenium.

One thing you won't ever see Putin doing is avoiding to swear in on the Bible.


Has Trump ever crossed himself?? Is Trump even Christian, considering he has had a lifelong kabbala teacher whom he looks up to as a mentor?

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You can show exceptions (like that picture) but the reality is that most muslims in Russia are ethnically central Asian people with Turkic/Mongoloid genetics or other Central Asian genetics. And their culture is for the most part not compatible with the Christian Russians. If you are talking about actual European Muslims then that would be something like the Albanians or Bosnians.
 
This is rich.

Me thinks though doth protest too much. The Bible thing with Trump has been talked about before, and I don't believe that's a contextually complete assertion but it's great for the photo op I suppose ....

So, don't believe your lying eyes then... The Bible is clearly there for him to put his left hand on :

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Kissing the quran is blasphemy

I agree it is over the top and a bad look, but from his perspective he has the difficult task of keeping a country that spans 11 time zones with a large native minority population, a country that has been constantly under attack from the globalist coalition. Russia today is the only Christian-led European country in the world today because of Putin (along with Poland - maybe), that much is undeniable.

It's not like Putin is a Kabbalist, you know, or he's posting truly blasphemous crap like this:



...and Russians rely on immigrant labor for their work force.

They have a 1.32 million active duty men in their army with 2 million reservists. Their labor shortage is real, and temporary. It's not like they are going to Kalergi.
 
You can show exceptions (like that picture) but the reality is that most muslims in Russia are ethnically central Asian people with Turkic/Mongoloid genetics or other Central Asian genetics. And their culture is for the most part not compatible with the Christian Russians. If you are talking about actual European Muslims then that would be something like the Albanians or Bosnians.

Those are not "exceptions", The great majority of Russian Muslims are from the north Caucasus, like the Circassian kids pictured above, or the Volga valley, they're not immigrants. These people have been living in these regions for over 1,000 years, they speak Russian, look up to Putin as their leader and are pretty well integrated into Russia.


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Trump not putting his hand on the bible and Putin kissing the Quran is both bad look but Trump showing himself as the pope is peak clown world and something Putin would never do.

I'm honestly more worried about all these Indians let in their country as they never leave, those Muslim causacus and Volga people are the least of their worries.
 
So, don't believe your lying eyes then... The Bible is clearly there for him to put his left hand on :

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I agree it is over the top and a bad look, but from his perspective he has the difficult task of keeping a country that spans 11 time zones with a large native minority population, a country that has been constantly under attack from the globalist coalition. Russia today is the only Christian-led European country in the world today because of Putin (along with Poland - maybe), that much is undeniable.

It's not like Putin is a Kabbalist, you know, or he's posting truly blasphemous crap like this:





They have a 1.32 million active duty men in their army with 2 million reservists. Their labor shortage is real, and temporary. It's not like they are going to Kalergi.

John Roberts started the Oath of Office before the Bible was present. This photo is after the Bible was present after the start of the Oath.

You either know that and are trying to make it into a bigger deal or don't. Either way, in my opinion it's somewhat disingenuous.

Trump has repeatedly talked about his appreciation for God and the Christian faith post assassination attempt.

That said. Can you imagine a world where BOTH/AND exists?

For the sake of argument I'll accept everything you said as fact.

Doesn't change that Putin has anti Muslim blasphemy laws (all be it rarely enforced) and has kissed the Quran.

But sure....keep up the counter claim and deflection because you don't want to deal with an inconvenient truth about Russia.

Doesnt mean also that Putin hasn't done a lot for the Orthodox Church in Russia. Doesn't mean either leader isn't doing what they view as the best for their country.

I happen to like Putin just fine. But I have no more reason to believe he's the next Great White Hope and certainly isn't doing anything to make my life better as an American.
 
Would you take Haitians or Congolese over these Muslim Russian citizens?
Are those not Russian kids (on the picture) from that region- descendants of settlers. Russia conquered the Circassians in the 19th century, allegedly committing genocide, displacing 80 to 97% of them, those Caucasus tribes are very tough to deal with.

After the 1830 Uprising, between 1831-34 about 9000 Polish gunners were forced into the Russian Army stationed in the Caucasus, 12 year terms were the norm at that time. The Caucasians would often enslave Polish deserters, keep or sell them to Turks, or hand them back to the Russians.





This is a leader who has built 30,000 churches
Doing this cannot hurt, unless it's just unsuccessful social engineering. Do they have attendance. Building churches as part of public policy vs true demand. Had the people been worshiping in house churches, or in rented halls before this program began. Build it and they will come. Napoleon started to go easy and tried to restore Catholicism realizing it's in the state's interest to have a religion and to control it, I hope it's not the same reasoning.

The Amish will build what they need in spite of the government, out of their real spiritual needs. Where I'm from in Poland the people built a chapel, often working at night with minimum illumination in the 50s in secret as it was illegal, some got arrested, but they persevered. Even now, parishes themselves finance the building of the churches they really need, there are some subsidies. You don't wait for the government to do it for you, nor do you obey them in times of persecution. They can start building mosques too, using public funds.


Has Trump ever crossed himself?? Is Trump even Christian, considering he has had a lifelong kabbala teacher whom he looks up to as a mentor?
From that rabbi's website: Eitan is an ordained rabbi who studied personally with Rav Berg, and he has played a major role in the globalization of Kabbalah since 1985.


That kabbalah stuff is from the 80s, I don't think he's into it anymore. Like Epstein, that fraudster was cosying up to impressionable high profile targets. At that time Putin was an atheist marxist, and would remain that for a lot longer.

Crossing yourself in public for the cameras- like that ostensibly fasting pharisee from the parable, contrasted with the humble tax collector. Franco wasn't very religious either but made Jehova's Witnesses illegal in Spain before Putin was born.


John Roberts started the Oath of Office before the Bible was present. This photo is after the Bible was present after the start of the Oath.
Was gonna say the same. Nobody cued Malanya in. Maybe it was a Masonic bible, in which case it's better not to touch it, there were conspiracy theories. Clinton and Obama were touching the books they were given, it meant nothing.
 
Doing this cannot hurt, unless it's just unsuccessful social engineering. Do they have attendance. Building churches as part of public policy vs true demand. Had the people been worshiping in house churches, or in rented halls before this program began. Build it and they will come. Napoleon started to go easy and tried to restore Catholicism realizing it's in the state's interest to have a religion and to control it, I hope it's not the same reasoning.

Demand for these churches in Russia was what pushed the construction boom from the last 2 decades, and many of those were started and funded by private initiative.


From that rabbi's website: Eitan is an ordained rabbi who studied personally with Rav Berg, and he has played a major role in the globalization of Kabbalah since 1985.

That kabbalah stuff is from the 80s, I don't think he's into it anymore. Like Epstein, that fraudster was cosying up to impressionable high profile targets. At that time Putin was an atheist marxist, and would remain that for a lot longer.

For one thing, Trump was talking about Yardeni and kabbala in 2004, date of that book, not the 80s. Kabbala is bigger today than it was in the 80s, not just in the West, but even in places like Africa and Asia among their ruling classes.

The more thorny aspect about Trump is that some sources claim that he formally converted to Chabad Judaism in 2017. That is a very controversial point, but I did hear it from different sources, including a person I trust who has heard it in relative confidence from Yardeni himself a few years ago.





Crossing yourself in public for the cameras- like that ostensibly fasting pharisee from the parable, contrasted with the humble tax collector. Franco wasn't very religious either but made Jehova's Witnesses illegal in Spain before Putin was born.

Putin banned Jehova's Witnesses from Russia as well. Many times he crossed himself in public in situations where he was far from being the center of attention, in a spontaneous manner.


Was gonna say the same. Nobody cued Malanya in. Maybe it was a Masonic bible, in which case it's better not to touch it, there were conspiracy theories. Clinton and Obama were touching the books they were given, it meant nothing.

Absolute cope. The Bible may have not been there at the start of the ceremony, but it was brought to him during the swear-in. All he had to do was lift his left hand and put it on it.
 
^ I was gonna point this out to those who criticize Pope Leo for blessing a block of Ice. Russians bless a hole in an ice sheet, intended to mention Putin's stunts too. They hope for climate/season/weather change too.

In Poland before WWII from what family told me, a commercial fish farm would let them use their pond, in the absence of nearby lakes. Not that many would take the polar bear plunge, sometimes only one man.
 
^ I was gonna point this out to those who criticize Pope Leo for blessing a block of Ice. Russians bless a hole in an ice sheet, intended to mention Putin's stunts too. They hope for climate/season/weather change too.

In Poland before WWII from what family told me, a commercial fish farm would let them use their pond, in the absence of nearby lakes. Not that many would take the polar bear plunge, sometimes only one man.
Meh I do think the ice block thing is a little different. Popes kinda jumping on the climate change bandwagon.

Vs the epiphany ceremony. Surely the Catholics do something for that too?
 
^ I was gonna point this out to those who criticize Pope Leo for blessing a block of Ice. Russians bless a hole in an ice sheet, intended to mention Putin's stunts too. They hope for climate/season/weather change too.
The difference is that Orthodoxy has services in church calendar of blessing water to be used throughout the year as a symbol of baptism and Pope blessed ice in the name of fighting climate change.
 
Meh I do think the ice block thing is a little different. Popes kinda jumping on the climate change bandwagon.

Vs the epiphany ceremony. Surely the Catholics do something for that too?

We eat cake for epiphany. ;)

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A somewhat secular family tradition to commemorate the Three Wise men visiting baby Jesus.

As to Pope Leo, I notice some important improvements over Francis, like for example, his calling out the cult of Pachamama as pagan heresy:

 
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