The Venezuela Thread

Controversial and unpopular opinion inbound:
The Financial Industrial complex directs the Military one.
Venezuela is a chaotic sh*thole because low IQ Venezuelans allowed it to be so.
Of course, but that doesn't have anything to do with other countries militarily moving in, necessarily.
These leftoid movements are often paid, led and/or handled by wealthy Jewish donors (Soros et al) themselves, as was glaringly obvious during the 2023-2024 US student protests.
Yes. It's interesting since the world powers are a mixed bag run of course by the top guy and his minions, but include the nations. Obviously, "jews" have been on much of the rebellious and monetary angles of political movements for a long time, but they are just notable headliners over time, not all the players.
We didn't have a problem doing it to the natives of this continent; we are stronger and better. Was true then, is true now.
It is curious that there is a modern day bias of "values" that we don't "believe in" anymore. And it's not like the 17th and 18th centuries weren't modern in human history, big picture. I'm not making a claim that any of this is right, but I have always argued that
 
Maduro is a racial Jew who adheres to communist ideology (rebranded Bolivarianism) and follows the spiritual teachings of a fringe Hindu guru. Maduro's quote of the day: 'Netanyahu is not a real Jew, I am a real Jew!'.

Hence in that sense Maduro's anti Zionist stance is in fully aligned with the Zionist critical movements on the European and American Left, all of which view Zionism as an extension of European colonialism/ White supremacy, and not as a malign offshoot of Talmudic-Halakhic teachings. Ergo Jewish Chosenness is not the problem, White people masquerading as Jews who have invaded Palestine are. This bears repetition because many of the subversive Dissident Right misinfo peddlers purposely leave this fact out in an attempt to somehow funnel good and righteous people towards their crap causes. These leftoid movements are often paid, led and/or handled by wealthy Jewish donors (Soros et al) themselves, as was glaringly obvious during the 2023-2024 US student protests.

Venezuela is the only country in this hemisphere that bans gay marriage, abortion and usury.

That doesn't sound very talmudic or "fringe hindu" to me, it is as Catholic as it gets.

As usual, you are whitewashing zionist talking points, the same reason you have attacked Tucker Carlson and shilled for the official version of the Charlie Kirk assassination. Your positions and advocacy are entirely aligned with the Israeli line.

Soros et al have played a skillful double game of funding pro-Palestine protests in the US in order to paint this issue as a right/left one and to keep the more gullible elements on the right in the zionist plantation. I will also note that you are very much aligned with Soros on Ukraine, him being a huge funder of the anti-Russian NGO galaxy in Ukraine and across EE, and you are fully on board in their war against Russia.

Back to the main subject, this whole campaign is more forever wars and doomed to failure. There is not going to be regime change, Maduro is popular enough, especially now that he is taking on the nationalist mantle against Gringo invaders, this is going to play well for him in LatAm. He might also have some Russian surprises up his sleeves in the form of stand-off weapons that can do some damage to the USN.

Excellent summary of the Venezuela situation by Mearsheimer:

 
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Haha this is nonsense.

Let's just be honest and say we want the geopolitical security of not having a hostile leader there and that we want the oil.

Americans aren't stupid and frankly we are ok with it if we are all honest about what's really going on.

I think the majority of Americans have bought into Venezuela being some kind of a narcotraffic denial police action and that Maduro is a narco kingpin.

Also, Maduro has offered his country's oil on a platter, exclusive JVs with American big oil, with of course the right revenue sharing scheme given that it's their oil. That's not good enough for the White House, they want someone who will sell out their own country for a mansion in Miami, a nice Cayman bank account and maybe even a Nobel Peace Prize...

It's a pretty old story, see Iran in 1953 and the overthrow of their democratically-elected president who wanted to nationalize their oil, aka Operation Ajax, led by Teddy Roosevelt's grandson Kermit.


This is not just unethical, it is also unrealistic. Maduro is not going to be overthrown, all that will happen is that the country will fall further into poverty, and millions of Venezuelans will emigrate.
 
I think the majority of Americans have bought into Venezuela being some kind of a narcotraffic denial police action and that Maduro is a narco kingpin.

Also, Maduro has offered his country's oil on a platter, exclusive JVs with American big oil, with of course the right revenue sharing scheme given that it's their oil. That's not good enough for the White House, they want someone who will sell out their own country for a mansion in Miami, a nice Cayman bank account and maybe even a Nobel Peace Prize...

It's a pretty old story, see Iran in 1953 and the overthrow of their democratically-elected president who wanted to nationalize their oil, aka Operation Ajax, led by Teddy Roosevelt's grandson Kermit.


This is not just unethical, it is also unrealistic. Maduro is not going to be overthrown, all that will happen is that the country will fall further into poverty, and millions of Venezuelans will emigrate.
Yep I'm aware and don't disagree with you from your summary of what Maduro offered.

Unfortunately that time has come and gone given the historical bad blood and him being the supported appointee of Chavez.

I'm not saying I drink the Kool Aid ... But I'm aware of the flavor of prepackaged sugar water being brought to the picnic.

I believe Chevron has historically been the biggest US operator in Venezuela for the record.

Between their acquisition of Hess and the interesting activities going on in Guyana with all SuperMajors... there's a lot of potential for regime change to secure our corporate and more importantly tell political energy interests.

I'm not sure I believe that there's no way he's overthrown. As you pointed out, for us....it was Tuesday.

 
Haha this is nonsense.

Let's just be honest and say we want the geopolitical security of not having a hostile leader there and that we want the oil.

Americans aren't stupid and frankly we are ok with it if we are all honest about what's really going on.
Because, if we are honest about the situation, and those flag draped coffins start to return, then there is going to be righteous anger at our government for starting the conflict and so many good young men being killed for a cause they simply do not agree with. So, they have to try to lie and get people to buy into it. It will be much tougher this go around with the internet and freedom of information getting into the hands of the people v. what they pulled off on 9/11. It is why strong-arming China into selling their US share of Tik-Tok was a top priority for the Trump admin.
 
^How does an oil tanker evade a destroyer??

Macgregor on Venezuela


Venezuela comments are around the 12 min mark.

He doesn't really say much earth shattering about how a coup and overthrow works ....but he highlights that Trump says he wants to talk to Maduro directly and basically get paid off to leave...

MacGregor is generally a good voice of reason...but I am not sure he's right.

For additional context on the Venezuela and their neighbors below in Guyana on Oil production offshore, and international companies concerns for stability:


 
^How does an oil tanker evade a destroyer??

As much as I would like to say "at night" and refuse to elaborate any further, I think they were just messing with that tanker - they could have easily boarded her if they wanted to.

Tanker Seahorse reaches Venezuela after US Navy standoff
The crude oil #tanker Seahorse has arrived in Venezuela after multiple attempts to enter were blocked by the USS Stockdale. The Comoros-flagged vessel, sanctioned by the UK and EU, was reportedly carrying naphtha to Puerto José.
#MarineTraffic data shows the vessel loitered in international waters from 14 to 22 November following repeated interceptions, before finally docking on 23 November. No formal blockade was declared by the US. Seahorse, currently laden, is listed under the Russian shadow fleet and sailing under the flag of Cameroon.
 
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