The Movie Thread

[Tippy]

Wait a minute here, you're criticizing Hitchcock here while enjoying and even praising the F1 film which truly means nothing to cinema?

At least I hope the flick wasn't as boring as the sport is these days.

I said myself it was formulaic but entertaining. If you want to compare Hitchcock to F1 (not something I woke up thinking I would do) I would say there was more of a positive takeaway in that movie in terms of human nature, the importance of sacrifice, teamwork, following your passions than any Hitchcock movie.

If we're talking about the craft of suspenseful plots then yeah Hitchock is a master. But ultimately these are all superficial experiences. Exception being slightly Vertigo which is about obsession with visuals and how destructive that can be. But even then it's still just a thriller. Even Hitchcock himself would say that he didn't care for much except to manipulate the audience into feeling excitement.

 

[bubs]

Saw F1 the other night. Maybe the 4th or 5th best racing movie ever made but probably lower. Ford v Ferrari, Rush, Senna, Ferrari, and probably even Stalone’s Driven (Directors cut version) are better. Heck I’d even put Talladega Nights ahead of F1. F1 was entertaining in the theater but it offered nothing new to the auto racing movie genre. Le Mans (Steve McQueen) is great if your a die-hard racing fan but it’s dated and felt that way watching it a few years ago. I still need to check out 60’s movies Grand Prix and Winning (Paul Newman). Probably some others I’m missing. Days of Thunder (Tom Cruise) is still the worse IMO.

 

[Tippy]

Saw F1 the other night. Maybe the 4th or 5th best racing movie ever made but probably lower. Ford v Ferrari, Rush, Senna, Ferrari, and probably even Stalone’s Driven (Directors cut version) are better. Heck I’d even put Talladega Nights ahead of F1. F1 was entertaining in the theater but it offered nothing new to the auto racing movie genre. Le Mans (Steve McQueen) is great if your a die-hard racing fan but it’s dated and felt that way watching it a few years ago. I still need to check out 60’s movies Grand Prix and Winning (Paul Newman). Probably some others I’m missing. Days of Thunder (Tom Cruise) is still the worse IMO.

I haven't seen Ferrari but most people criticized that for not being enough about racing. You think that was a better racing movie?

I don't know if Ford V Ferrari was better. I could tell that had influenced this was one a lot (and Senna) as they took some aspects from both.

It was for sure a more intense film experience but they went for something broader which was both a plus and a minus in terms of the impact.

I can say I'll never watch either one again but as a film experience F1 slightly edges it. As a character study, because FVF was mostly ONE guy and was more focused it's probably slightly better as a script.