The China Thread

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

It's almost like Asians can be hostile and passive aggressive in their own country. This isn't new. Youtube is filled with these "bad experience" travel vloggers. Not sure why you're singling out the Chinese, even white people can be hostile. I agree Asians can be super annoying to deal with in Asia. You mentioned people spitting in your direction, so you do have a point, just not a Chinese one.

I was trying to be funny, but I guess it didn't come across very well. I only watched the first 3 minutes of the Aussie in the grocery store and it looked pretty good.

I always thought it was cute and funny when a Chinese person called me a gweilo or a baak gwei. One of the reasons was Chinese people treated me great and I was only bothered by how they treated each other, and I've never been bothered by explicit insults, no matter from whom.

If I mentioned people spitting in my direction, that would have been two odd experiences with security guards on separate occasions the first month or so I was in Guangzhou. I didn't extrapolate that into something personally offensive, but there were foreigners I knew who were grossed out by old men spitting.

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

oh man there's just no trust in you with Chinese Authority. They're not out to get you man, they just want to chill on the job and move on.

So, now that I think about it, that video of the staff checking on the phones was likely checking for train tickets or covid tracking - which are in the form of QR codes.

Chinese authorities treated me very well while I was in China, which was true for every foreigner that I knew. My attitude is about how they treat Chinese people and not about something personal with me.

The most frequent problem for foreigners or locals was reporting crimes to the Guangzhou police, who would make you regret interrupting their tea time by keeping you at the station all day and doing nothing themselves or threatening to arrest you if you persisted in your demand for police help.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Maybe replacing the men who made this country great, with 85 IQ immigrants, who can't read at a third grade level and Indian scam artists isn't a good idea to keep up with the Chinese.

At least when the Whites are gone, in a generation or two, the Chinese will not pay lazy/low IQ people to breed and destroy the planet as a result of it.

 

[expectation]

Chinese authorities treated me very well while I was in China, which was true for every foreigner that I knew. My attitude is about how they treat Chinese people and not about something personal with me.

The most frequent problem for foreigners or locals was reporting crimes to the Guangzhou police, who would make you regret interrupting their tea time by keeping you at the station all day and doing nothing themselves or threatening to arrest you if you persisted in your demand for police help.

I think that sounds about right when it comes to GZ in general and I still see some elements of pettiness today. When I was doing my corporate job, we managed an out-source operation for a HK bank in Foshan. A couple of days after an off-site workshop, the manager (from FS) realized he forgot a laptop battery and started contacting the facility manager to get it back. He escalated and cc'd me in and I regret reading the email chain as he berated the facility manager over such minor problem - I had to go and personally apologize to the facility manager for dealing with that. Obviously, they're difficult to coach into executive roles.

Even GDP and EV maxing, GZ'ers still live in a chaotic lifestyle much similar to the Vietnamese. Maybe Sandalwood prefers this over the Js .

 

[Cooper]

Maybe replacing the men who made this country great, with 85 IQ immigrants, who can't read at a third grade level and Indian scam artists isn't a good idea to keep up with the Chinese.

At least when the Whites are gone, in a generation or two, the Chinese will not pay lazy/low IQ people to breed and destroy the planet as a result of it.

I was going to tell you you are wrong here, but when you think about what happened to Boeing, it's pretty much this, spot on. Late stage capitalism just loves cheap labor. Boomers just can't help themselves.



To tie this with Foamboy's Rubio's statement above, he is pretty right for once, China is rearming at a fast rate with just a fraction of the US bloated military budget. If they can build a suspension bridge over a deep gorge for $200 million that costs more than 10x as much in the US, and in half the time, they can do the same with their new generation of weapons. They now have 3 different 6th generation fighter jets while the USAF NGAD project is still in its embryonic stage, for a plane that will cost more than $300 million apiece. The MIC is collapsing on its own weight.

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

Even GDP and EV maxing, GZ'ers still live in a chaotic lifestyle much similar to the Vietnamese. Maybe Sandalwood prefers this over the Js .

Hearing someone speak Canto in a pleasant tone of voice brings back a lot of good memories.

 

[Cooper]

Î really dislike Cantonese, it sounds pretty ghetto, a bit like Vietnamese. And what's up with the 6 tones, as if 4 was not hard enough!...

 

[LaAguilaNegra]

Literally like clockwork. US-Turkish communist Hassan Piker (hassanabi) was just searched and checked in Beijing, Tiananmen Square. Security guards 'saw' a meme of Piker dressed up as Mao Zedong on his phone, and that didn't go down well. Yet how do you see a meme on someone's phone? Short answer: because he got profiled, picked out and had his devices checked by some low level jackboot who wasn't aware that Piker was there on the CCP's invitation anyway. Nothing will likely happen to Piker because he is 'on their side', yet this could have been a misinformed RW chud instead, no mercy in commie China for those though.

Do not play stupid games in China. The narrative that China is a country like all other East Asian states is a rancid lie, propagated by even more rancid propagandists who make a living out of selling crap to low info and disenfranchised Westoid idiots. China is a heavily authoritian communist dictatorship that after a 20 year or so hike is becoming openly hostile again and which is engaged in a large number of informational, fifth generational and even kinetic warfare operations against the US.



Hasan Piker during Mamdani's victory, lamenting the fall of the USSR. Like said before, domestic and foreign communists will unite in their desire to bring down the USA.

Told y'all. US communist, Mamdani supporter and Antifa sympathizer Hasan Piker just had his interview with CGTN, which is Chinese state media and their main official propaganda channel aimed at foreign audiences. His Chang handler is Li JingJing, one of the top dogs when it comes to mentoring foreign propaganda shills, platinum treatment for big ol' Hasan it seems. Simply put, man's there on a mission. In the interview Piker reads off a set of pre-printed talking points no doubt prepared for him by his handler, not going to bore you with the content yet Piker's glazy eyes are a dead give away.

We have to thank his streaming team for showing us the vile reality of life in China though. Man was literally minding his own business with his crew, and got apprehended by a few zealous Chang jackboots nevertheless. On the basis of looking foreign and speaking English. Kind of a big red flag on international travel to the country, and a massive self-inflicted propaganda L for the Changs to boot. This happened in one of the main tourist attractions in China bytheway, 3 billion tourists trust me on that one.

Piker and his crew had their phones confiscated an searched, the whole nine yards. If it wouldn't have been for Piker's protected status it could very well have ended at the local police station, no memes and VPNs allowed in totally mellow and laidback China. No wonder expectation tried to slide post above so fast, getting pre-emptively searched and your devices broken into for the crime of being a foreigner is not exactly in line with the crap promoted here and elsewhere.

 

[Cooper]

Told y'all. US communist, Mamdani supporter and Antifa sympathizer Hasan Piker just had his interview with CGTN, which is Chinese state media and their main official propaganda channel aimed at foreign audiences. His Chang handler is Li JingJing, one of the top dogs when it comes to mentoring foreign propaganda shills, platinum treatment for big ol' Hasan it seems. Simply put, man's there on a mission. In the interview Piker reads off a set of pre-printed talking points no doubt prepared for him by his handler, not going to bore you with the content yet Piker's glazy eyes are a dead give away.

We have to thank his streaming team for showing us the vile reality of life in China though. Man was literally minding his own business with his crew, and got apprehended by a few zealous Chang jackboots nevertheless. On the basis of looking foreign and speaking English. Kind of a big red flag on international travel to the country, and a massive self-inflicted propaganda L for the Changs to boot. This happened in one of the main tourist attractions in China bytheway, 3 billion tourists trust me on that one.

Piker and his crew had their phones confiscated an searched, the whole nine yards. If it wouldn't have been for Piker's protected status it could very well have ended at the local police station, no memes and VPNs allowed in totally mellow and laidback China. No wonder expectation tried to slide post above so fast, getting pre-emptively searched and your devices broken into for the crime of being a foreigner is not exactly in line with the crap promoted here and elsewhere.

^Retard leftie douchebag harassed in China - LaNegra: "StOp tHe PreSSes!!11"

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

^Retard leftie douchebag harassed in China - LaNegra: "StOp tHe PreSSes!!11"

Bizarre attempt to minimize a sudden and relevant example of the censorship that you and expectation had already been attempting to minimize.

Piker says in the interview that China is just another country, but it is only in countries with extreme censorship where you would be stopped in a prominent and popular location for streaming, like Tiananmen Square, and get rousted by the cops.

Communist countries are well known for such authoritarian restrictions and the irony of a communist like Piker, who in the USA calls for the murder of landlords and capitalists (protected by the 1st amendment), but then lands in his commie utopia, China, only to be immediately rousted just for milquetoast streaming, is off the charts.

Chinese citizens have been sent to the gulags and black sites for expressing their political opinions in Tiananmen Square for decades. Any Chinese doing something remotely suspicious there would at least spend some hours at the police station answering questions and I'm sure VPN laws would be strictly enforced in those cases.

Uniformed and plain clothes Chinese police routinely stop people in Tiananmen and have been caught beating them many times. They've done a good job cleaning the evidence from the web as I can no longer find the videos from the early 2000's of grannies getting kicked to the ground and thrown into vans.

The first two pictures are of Chinese secret police beating people in Tiananmen before hauling them away. The last is from an Atlantic article from 2012 of the police checking the phone of a regular citizen to make sure he didn't have any dangerous Winnie the Pooh memes.

 

[LaAguilaNegra]

The Hongqi bridge was recently completed in China. It's one of the world's highest bridges, and has been touted as an example of China's advancement and superiority.

Hongqi Bridge - HighestBridges.com

www.highestbridges.com

It just collapsed.



Edit: When I searched for the Hongqi Bridge, I got a link for the Huajiang Canyon Bridge which was also recently completed and very high. I think this bridge got a lot of attention, and the Hongqi bridge was not as famous. It's still a cautionary tale of hubris.

The correct word is tofu dreg. In China stuff collapses all the time due to horrific safety standards, low construction standards, rampant corruption and bribe taking. Hence tofu dreg. The materials used are often of subpar quality too, in that sense it's like everything else that gets produced in China. Large structural bridges crumble at an average of almost 3 per month, this is going by the CCP's own previous statistics bytheway. Although nowadays this type of data doesn't get reported anymore, can't maintain the fakey 'living in the future' hype when everything around you comes down in a cloud of carcinogenic dust. That's only bridges bytheway, residential buildings, tunnels, roads, mine shafts etc are a category of itself.

A few days ago a apartment's building's support structures collapsed on one side in Hubei, flat was just hanging there at a 40 degree angle. Also a few days ago a tunnel shaft got flooded in Sichuan, over a dozen of workers are missing and the local governments have, per usual, put a cap on the information dissipation. Aka everything gets deleted off the Chang web and rest assured that these guys are dead and their families will get zero compensation.





Below is a funny picture on Chinese building practices, unless you in live in China of course, then it ain't funny.

 

[LaAguilaNegra]

Your dedication to larping your experience on this board is incredible, Read_Lives_of_Saints. You have very good creative writing skills so I'll give you that. It is also obvious that you work with LAN to cloud this forum with nonsense and I don't have time to dispel all of them for the readers here.

There are a couple of things that gave you away.
1) Your Khmer Rogue Write-up is on the Southeast Asia thread is very generic but if you were actually on the tour, you would've known the basic story behind it. Once I shared the story, you immediately disengaged with a quick 1 sentence which is uncharacteristic of your posting habits and out of fear of exposing yourself further.
2) Why would you dedicate a portion of your life living in China while passionately disliking its food?
3) You reliance on Wikipedia on China which betrays your LARP. For instance, in your last post, Winnie the Pooh is not banned like it is claimed on Wikipedia. There are Disneylands in China.
4) Your constant backpedaling on the VPN. I had left behind clues on that China doesn't draconically enforce VPN. This is easily google-able as well.

• Had you skim through a few of the streams like for instance Speed, you would've realized that random fans approached him and knowing his episode. He had never streamed on any Chinese Platforms before that visit so if VPN was banned, how do these fans know him and his episodes.
• The comments section obviously had Chinese posters from the Supermarket Video.
• More backpedaling, there are Mainland Chinese Youtube posters and only enforces on VPN PROVIDERS - NOT individuals. Here is a Mainlander with a channel.
• A quick google search on Reddit also dispels this notion.

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Chuds can't help taking Ls, apparently the garden tool variety above is still rubbing the VPN stain. Heavy autism vibes, and it's quite noticeable that these commie thirdworlders and their RW chuds e-allies have trouble functioning in ecospheres where information diffusion is open, and debate barely censored.

None of the walls of cope and seethe have made the wumao predicament any more believable. Reality is simple. VPNs are illegal in China, and under Article 285 carry a maximum penalty of 3-7 years and 20000 rmb fine. VPN licenses are available for shills, international companies and botfarms. That's it.

It's really not that hard and half of these barely readable copetakes prove that point. Anyone with two braincells to rub together can hence do the math, fluent-in-English Chang influencer types who dump their sludge on YT and the likes are indeed propagandists. Yes, Chinese shills designed to work foreign audiences have access to VPNs, great point Chang thanks for your insight!

The chudtower stands tall and continues to rise. Y'all know the drill, with every chimpout another Chinese government advisory/threat against the use of VPNs gets added.

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[Cooper]

The correct word is tofu dreg. In China stuff collapses all the time due to horrific safety standards, low construction standards, rampant corruption and bribe taking. Hence tofu dreg. The materials used are often of subpar quality too, in that sense it's like everything else that gets produced in China. Large structural bridges crumble at an average of almost 3 per month, this is going by the CCP's own previous statistics bytheway. Although nowadays this type of data doesn't get reported anymore, can't maintain the fakey 'living in the future' hype when everything around you comes down in a cloud of carcinogenic dust. That's only bridges bytheway, residential buildings, tunnels, roads, mine shafts etc are a category of itself.

A few days ago a apartment's building's support structures collapsed on one side in Hubei, flat was just hanging there at a 40 degree angle. Also a few days ago a tunnel shaft got flooded in Sichuan, over a dozen of workers are missing and the local governments have, per usual, put a cap on the information dissipation. Aka everything gets deleted off the Chang web and rest assured that these guys are dead and their families will get zero compensation.

You're not American, Canadian or Anglo, and you typically post overnight from time zones falling anywhere between eastern Europe and India. You support India and Israel, so maybe it's the latter, which also jibes with your sympathy for paganism.

I doubt that the construction standards in your 2nd or 3rd world country are anywhere near China's. China today is the world leader in civil engineering, if you refer to serious sources, as opposed to the crap from the bottom of the social media barrel that you always post. They have been building more bridges, dams, buildings etc than the rest of the world combined.

in any case, I would much, much rather have China's alleged problem of low construction standards than living in countries run by lawyers, speculators and city inspectors where nothing ever gets built due to red tape and talmudic laws, and where home ownership is inaccessible for the middle class.

 

[Cooper]

Bizarre attempt to minimize a sudden and relevant example of the censorship that you and expectation had already been attempting to minimize.

Piker says in the interview that China is just another country, but it is only in countries with extreme censorship where you would be stopped in a prominent and popular location for streaming, like Tiananmen Square, and get rousted by the cops.

Communist countries are well known for such authoritarian restrictions and the irony of a communist like Piker, who in the USA calls for the murder of landlords and capitalists (protected by the 1st amendment), but then lands in his commie utopia, China, only to be immediately rousted just for milquetoast streaming, is off the charts.

Chinese citizens have been sent to the gulags and black sites for expressing their political opinions in Tiananmen Square for decades. Any Chinese doing something remotely suspicious there would at least spend some hours at the police station answering questions and I'm sure VPN laws would be strictly enforced in those cases.

Uniformed and plain clothes Chinese police routinely stop people in Tiananmen and have been caught beating them many times. They've done a good job cleaning the evidence from the web as I can no longer find the videos from the early 2000's of grannies getting kicked to the ground and thrown into vans.

The first two pictures are of Chinese secret police beating people in Tiananmen before hauling them away. The last is from an Atlantic article from 2012 of the police checking the phone of a regular citizen to make sure he didn't have any dangerous Winnie the Pooh memes.

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More people are arrested in the UK alone for social media posts or holding pro-Palestine signs than dissidents get arrested in all of China.

The pictures that you have posted above are remarkable in two aspects:

1- they are incredibly dated, and if you have to dig 20 years in the past for pictures of people getting arrested by Chinese police, doesn't that tell you something about the lack of such events in recent times, where every citizen has a cellphone camera?

2- they are incredibly TAME by modern western standards - the ghost of Ashli Babbitt says hello! In France alone over 100 people were shot in the face and eye during the recent gilets Jaunes protests:

gilets Jaune leader Jerome Rodrigues, shot in the eye with a rubber bullet from close range:


Police brutality in Germany:




The worst part of these violent political repressions is that they are all done on behalf of ((foreign countries)) and ((banksters)) that parasite and colonize their countries, whereas in China the police in Tiananmen cracked down on foreign agents who wanted to do to China what they did to Russia in the 1990s, colonize, parasite and rob the country.

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

More people are arrested in the UK alone for social media posts or holding pro-Palestine signs than dissidents get arrested in all of China.

The pictures who have posted above are remarkable in two aspects:

1- they are incredibly dated, and if you have to dig 20 years in the past for pictures of people getting arrested by Chinese police, doesn't that tell you something about the lack of such events in recent times, where every citizen has a cellphone camera?

2- they are incredibly TAME by modern western standards - the ghost of Ashli Babbitt says hello! In France alone over 100 people were shot in the face and eye during the recent gilets Jaunes protests:

gilets Jaune leader Jerome Rodrigues, shot in the eye with a rubber bullet from close range:


Police brutality in Germany:


The worst part of these violent political repressions is that they are all done on behalf of ((foreign countries)) and ((banksters)) that colonize their countries, whereas in China the police in Tiananmen cracked down on foreign agents who wanted to do to China what they did to Russia in the 1990s, colonize, parasite and rob the country.

Is there a Mandarin word for whataboutism?

Remember, this is The China thread and we're talking about censorship in China.

 

[Cooper]

Is there a Mandarin word for whataboutism?

Remember, this is The China thread and we're talking about censorship in China.

Providing the most basic context on the China protest pictures you have posted by comparing their equivalents in the West is very much still about China.

I do understand though that you have to resort to rules and fake message board boundaries because you have no answer whatsoever to the fact that the West has been far more violent towards its people and protestors than the Chinese.

This is simply because those who rule us hate and fear us, while in China their leaders are nationalists who look for the interests of their country. That is the very basic difference...

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

Providing the most basic context on the China protest pictures you have posted by comparing their equivalents in the West is very much still about China.

I do understand though that you have to resort to rules and fake message board boundaries because you have no answer whatsoever to the fact that the West has been far more violent towards its people and protestors than the Chinese.

This is simply because those who rule us hate and fear us, while in China their leaders are nationalists who look for the interests of their country. That is the very basic difference...

No, it's not context because there is no comparison. You're off-topic to muddy the waters and you're not doing apples to apples.

In China, what they censor is allowed and expressed billions of times per day in America, which the Hassan Piker example emphasizes as he didn't even know that live-streaming was sensitive in Tiananmen Square, which he probably thought was the Chinese name for Peking duck.

And once again, Chinese wouldn't need VPN's without censorship and they wouldn't be illegal if they weren't being widely used. Arguing that China is not one of the most censorious countries in the world is a losing hand.

And fake message board boundaries? Thread topics exist as part of the basic organization of every discussion forum. You're really grasping now.

 

[expectation]

No, it's not context because there is no comparison. You're off-topic to muddy the waters and you're not doing apples to apples.

In China, what they censor is allowed and expressed billions of times per day in America, which the Hassan Piker example emphasizes as he didn't even know that live-streaming was sensitive in Tiananmen Square, which he probably thought was the Chinese name for Peking duck.

And once again, Chinese wouldn't need VPN's without censorship and they wouldn't be illegal if they weren't being widely used. Arguing that China is not one of the most censorious countries in the world is a losing hand.

And fake message board boundaries? Thread topics exist as part of the basic organization of every discussion forum. You're really grasping now.

This girl needs your help, RLOS - she is trapped behind the firewall! Look at how oppressed she is! She is forced to eat low IQ African food!

 

[LaAguilaNegra]

330 million arms package for Taiwan approved by the US, this particular sale is aimed at maintaining and expanding Taiwan's F16 fleet.

Not sure how the hypermasculine squarejawed CCP Chads will respond to this, usually that faux confidence turns pretty fragile when the US flexes some of its muscle. Also just got told that upkeeping a decent military as a geostrategic deterrent is uhhmm well ackshually an invitation for WW3, you totally wouldn't want that now do you might as well abolish your military what about the collapssiiiiing hospitals back home anyway.

This rule of thumb obviously doesn't apply to rogue communist bloc states. Those are outside the scope of criticism and can create nuclear deterrents, invade neighbouring countries, run excessive misinformation campaigns, engage in fifth generation warfare campaigns and pull off the biggest and fastest militarization in modern history without a speck of criticism. Totally not sus though.

Kind reminder that this rhetoric is one on one copied from KGB and GRU subversion campaigns in Europe, Europe absolutely didn't need a military deterrent or nuclear missile sites. Pacifist movements in both Europe and the US all originated in Moscow and during the Vietnam War Soviets spent more money on information campaigns in the West than on actual military aid to the Vietminh/ Vietcong.

Not surprising that our own hypermasculine Chads have fallen prey for similar contemporary narratives. Their entire alt infostream is dominated by these foreign paid subversive elements after all, and it's not like there is much room for introspection anyway.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

No, it's not context because there is no comparison. You're off-topic to muddy the waters and you're not doing apples to apples.

In China, what they censor is allowed and expressed billions of times per day in America, which the Hassan Piker example emphasizes as he didn't even know that live-streaming was sensitive in Tiananmen Square, which he probably thought was the Chinese name for Peking duck.

And once again, Chinese wouldn't need VPN's without censorship and they wouldn't be illegal if they weren't being widely used. Arguing that China is not one of the most censorious countries in the world is a losing hand.

And fake message board boundaries? Thread topics exist as part of the basic organization of every discussion forum. You're really grasping now.

Yes, they do have heavy censorship.

They don't allow drag queens to read books to 5-year-olds about becoming transgenders. Then set up snipers and aim them at anyone who has a problem with it.

They don't allow women to go around claiming men are of no value, causing young women to have a bloated self esteem and thus wreck the institution of family.

They don't pretend to let you criticize the govt., give you police protection to do so, and then when Antifa shows up the police allow them to beat you up and then arrest you if you defend yourself.

I was never a fan of censorship, but comparing censorship in the west to China is night and day. Their censorship is designed to protect their nation-state from satanic invaders. Ours is designed to protect the satanic invaders, but give a false sense of it being allowed.