The China Thread

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

Here is a lady that shared her Supermarket Experience on youtube after moving to China. No VPN gulag and the pinned comments is amusing.

I know why those women are not being dragged off to the gulag. Let me explain.

The foreigners are smiling and having a good time with their decadent live-streaming, wearing their white devil 鬼佬 hearts on their colonizing sleeves! They're likely planning another century of humiliations 百年国耻 so they can turn Hangzhou into a treaty port where they can force the indigenous population to eat more KFC and high fructose corn syrup. You can't trust them, but you know what they're thinking.

Compare to the inscrutable Oriental mind, hidden behind the Chinese poker face. You can't trust him and you don't know what he's thinking, but just as sure as moon cakes are sweet on the Mid-Autumn Festival 中秋, he's going to invade California and take the West Coast so he can turn Silicon Valley into a Han SOE.

The inconsistent enforcement of the VPN law is like a Chinese water torture for foreigners, who never know when the axe is gonna fall. It will be a sudden surprise when you're invited for tea 喝茶 and seated in your Euro-sized tiger chair for a friendly chat about whether you use wireguard and double hops. Answer wisely.

 

[Thomas More]

My guess is that they will rebuild the bridge after blowing up and grading down half that mountain.

The question is whether this was a known type of risk that should have been investigated and mitigated ahead of time, or whether this was unforeseeable.

Obviously unforeseeable problems can't be foreseen so there is no blame when they occur. However, the failure to discover foreseeable problems and develop an effective solution to mitigate them is shoddy work. I don't know the facts, but I can't help believing this was shoddy work, and not an unforeseeable problem.

 

[Sandalwood Peak]

The foreigners are smiling and having a good time with their decadent live-streaming, wearing their white devil 鬼佬 hearts on their colonizing sleeves!

It's almost like Asians can be hostile and passive aggressive in their own country. This isn't new. Youtube is filled with these "bad experience" travel vloggers. Not sure why you're singling out the Chinese, even white people can be hostile. I agree Asians can be super annoying to deal with in Asia. You mentioned people spitting in your direction, so you do have a point, just not a Chinese one. I think the actual measure of such thing is how much the locals condone this behavior. Did you tell your Chinese acquaintances about this and did they defend it? A lot of countries around the world don't really care what happens to whites.

I would prefer China over Japan as far as dealing with strangers.

I'm niggerish. I really don't like being accosted by strangers. I would chimp out if the videos below happened to me. That's why I always think Asians are playing with fire when it comes to Africans/muzzies. You're not going to accost an African my Asian frens. Don't let them in.

 

[expectation]

I know why those women are not being dragged off to the gulag. Let me explain.

The foreigners are smiling and having a good time with their decadent live-streaming, wearing their white devil 鬼佬 hearts on their colonizing sleeves! They're likely planning another century of humiliations 百年国耻 so they can turn Hangzhou into a treaty port where they can force the indigenous population to eat more KFC and high fructose corn syrup. You can't trust them, but you know what they're thinking.

Compare to the inscrutable Oriental mind, hidden behind the Chinese poker face. You can't trust him and you don't know what he's thinking, but just as sure as moon cakes are sweet on the Mid-Autumn Festival 中秋, he's going to invade California and take the West Coast so he can turn Silicon Valley into a Han SOE.

The inconsistent enforcement of the VPN law is like a Chinese water torture for foreigners, who never know when the axe is gonna fall. It will be a sudden surprise when you're invited for tea 喝茶 and seated in your Euro-sized tiger chair for a friendly chat about whether you use wireguard and double hops. Answer wisely.

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oh man there's just no trust in you with Chinese Authority. They're not out to get you man, they just want to chill on the job and move on.

So, now that I think about it, that video of the staff checking on the phones was likely checking for train tickets or covid tracking - which are in the form of QR codes.

 

[expectation]

The question is whether this was a known type of risk that should have been investigated and mitigated ahead of time, or whether this was unforeseeable.

Obviously unforeseeable problems can't be foreseen so there is no blame when they occur. However, the failure to discover foreseeable problems and develop an effective solution to mitigate them is shoddy work. I don't know the facts, but I can't help believing this was shoddy work, and not an unforeseeable problem.

I read somewhere that China has been aggressively building infrastructure in the poorer mountainous places to build up the lower tier places. The problem is, is that they're prone to earthquakes and landslides. Nothing you can do but monitor and close out once an event happens. it seems that they're willing to spend the money to rebuild them too once it crashes out.

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

It's almost like Asians can be hostile and passive aggressive in their own country. This isn't new. Youtube is filled with these "bad experience" travel vloggers. Not sure why you're singling out the Chinese, even white people can be hostile. I agree Asians can be super annoying to deal with in Asia. You mentioned people spitting in your direction, so you do have a point, just not a Chinese one.

I was trying to be funny, but I guess it didn't come across very well. I only watched the first 3 minutes of the Aussie in the grocery store and it looked pretty good.

I always thought it was cute and funny when a Chinese person called me a gweilo or a baak gwei. One of the reasons was Chinese people treated me great and I was only bothered by how they treated each other, and I've never been bothered by explicit insults, no matter from whom.

If I mentioned people spitting in my direction, that would have been two odd experiences with security guards on separate occasions the first month or so I was in Guangzhou. I didn't extrapolate that into something personally offensive, but there were foreigners I knew who were grossed out by old men spitting.

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

oh man there's just no trust in you with Chinese Authority. They're not out to get you man, they just want to chill on the job and move on.

So, now that I think about it, that video of the staff checking on the phones was likely checking for train tickets or covid tracking - which are in the form of QR codes.

Chinese authorities treated me very well while I was in China, which was true for every foreigner that I knew. My attitude is about how they treat Chinese people and not about something personal with me.

The most frequent problem for foreigners or locals was reporting crimes to the Guangzhou police, who would make you regret interrupting their tea time by keeping you at the station all day and doing nothing themselves or threatening to arrest you if you persisted in your demand for police help.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Maybe replacing the men who made this country great, with 85 IQ immigrants, who can't read at a third grade level and Indian scam artists isn't a good idea to keep up with the Chinese.

At least when the Whites are gone, in a generation or two, the Chinese will not pay lazy/low IQ people to breed and destroy the planet as a result of it.

 

[expectation]

Chinese authorities treated me very well while I was in China, which was true for every foreigner that I knew. My attitude is about how they treat Chinese people and not about something personal with me.

The most frequent problem for foreigners or locals was reporting crimes to the Guangzhou police, who would make you regret interrupting their tea time by keeping you at the station all day and doing nothing themselves or threatening to arrest you if you persisted in your demand for police help.

I think that sounds about right when it comes to GZ in general and I still see some elements of pettiness today. When I was doing my corporate job, we managed an out-source operation for a HK bank in Foshan. A couple of days after an off-site workshop, the manager (from FS) realized he forgot a laptop battery and started contacting the facility manager to get it back. He escalated and cc'd me in and I regret reading the email chain as he berated the facility manager over such minor problem - I had to go and personally apologize to the facility manager for dealing with that. Obviously, they're difficult to coach into executive roles.

Even GDP and EV maxing, GZ'ers still live in a chaotic lifestyle much similar to the Vietnamese. Maybe Sandalwood prefers this over the Js .

 

[Cooper]

Maybe replacing the men who made this country great, with 85 IQ immigrants, who can't read at a third grade level and Indian scam artists isn't a good idea to keep up with the Chinese.

At least when the Whites are gone, in a generation or two, the Chinese will not pay lazy/low IQ people to breed and destroy the planet as a result of it.

I was going to tell you you are wrong here, but when you think about what happened to Boeing, it's pretty much this, spot on. Late stage capitalism just loves cheap labor. Boomers just can't help themselves.



To tie this with Foamboy's Rubio's statement above, he is pretty right for once, China is rearming at a fast rate with just a fraction of the US bloated military budget. If they can build a suspension bridge over a deep gorge for $200 million that costs more than 10x as much in the US, and in half the time, they can do the same with their new generation of weapons. They now have 3 different 6th generation fighter jets while the USAF NGAD project is still in its embryonic stage, for a plane that will cost more than $300 million apiece. The MIC is collapsing on its own weight.

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

Even GDP and EV maxing, GZ'ers still live in a chaotic lifestyle much similar to the Vietnamese. Maybe Sandalwood prefers this over the Js .

Hearing someone speak Canto in a pleasant tone of voice brings back a lot of good memories.

 

[Cooper]

Î really dislike Cantonese, it sounds pretty ghetto, a bit like Vietnamese. And what's up with the 6 tones, as if 4 was not hard enough!...

 

[LaAguilaNegra]

Literally like clockwork. US-Turkish communist Hassan Piker (hassanabi) was just searched and checked in Beijing, Tiananmen Square. Security guards 'saw' a meme of Piker dressed up as Mao Zedong on his phone, and that didn't go down well. Yet how do you see a meme on someone's phone? Short answer: because he got profiled, picked out and had his devices checked by some low level jackboot who wasn't aware that Piker was there on the CCP's invitation anyway. Nothing will likely happen to Piker because he is 'on their side', yet this could have been a misinformed RW chud instead, no mercy in commie China for those though.

Do not play stupid games in China. The narrative that China is a country like all other East Asian states is a rancid lie, propagated by even more rancid propagandists who make a living out of selling crap to low info and disenfranchised Westoid idiots. China is a heavily authoritian communist dictatorship that after a 20 year or so hike is becoming openly hostile again and which is engaged in a large number of informational, fifth generational and even kinetic warfare operations against the US.



Hasan Piker during Mamdani's victory, lamenting the fall of the USSR. Like said before, domestic and foreign communists will unite in their desire to bring down the USA.

Told y'all. US communist, Mamdani supporter and Antifa sympathizer Hasan Piker just had his interview with CGTN, which is Chinese state media and their main official propaganda channel aimed at foreign audiences. His Chang handler is Li JingJing, one of the top dogs when it comes to mentoring foreign propaganda shills, platinum treatment for big ol' Hasan it seems. Simply put, man's there on a mission. In the interview Piker reads off a set of pre-printed talking points no doubt prepared for him by his handler, not going to bore you with the content yet Piker's glazy eyes are a dead give away.

We have to thank his streaming team for showing us the vile reality of life in China though. Man was literally minding his own business with his crew, and got apprehended by a few zealous Chang jackboots nevertheless. On the basis of looking foreign and speaking English. Kind of a big red flag on international travel to the country, and a massive self-inflicted propaganda L for the Changs to boot. This happened in one of the main tourist attractions in China bytheway, 3 billion tourists trust me on that one.

Piker and his crew had their phones confiscated an searched, the whole nine yards. If it wouldn't have been for Piker's protected status it could very well have ended at the local police station, no memes and VPNs allowed in totally mellow and laidback China. No wonder expectation tried to slide post above so fast, getting pre-emptively searched and your devices broken into for the crime of being a foreigner is not exactly in line with the crap promoted here and elsewhere.

 

[Cooper]

Told y'all. US communist, Mamdani supporter and Antifa sympathizer Hasan Piker just had his interview with CGTN, which is Chinese state media and their main official propaganda channel aimed at foreign audiences. His Chang handler is Li JingJing, one of the top dogs when it comes to mentoring foreign propaganda shills, platinum treatment for big ol' Hasan it seems. Simply put, man's there on a mission. In the interview Piker reads off a set of pre-printed talking points no doubt prepared for him by his handler, not going to bore you with the content yet Piker's glazy eyes are a dead give away.

We have to thank his streaming team for showing us the vile reality of life in China though. Man was literally minding his own business with his crew, and got apprehended by a few zealous Chang jackboots nevertheless. On the basis of looking foreign and speaking English. Kind of a big red flag on international travel to the country, and a massive self-inflicted propaganda L for the Changs to boot. This happened in one of the main tourist attractions in China bytheway, 3 billion tourists trust me on that one.

Piker and his crew had their phones confiscated an searched, the whole nine yards. If it wouldn't have been for Piker's protected status it could very well have ended at the local police station, no memes and VPNs allowed in totally mellow and laidback China. No wonder expectation tried to slide post above so fast, getting pre-emptively searched and your devices broken into for the crime of being a foreigner is not exactly in line with the crap promoted here and elsewhere.

^Retard leftie douchebag harassed in China - LaNegra: "StOp tHe PreSSes!!11"

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

^Retard leftie douchebag harassed in China - LaNegra: "StOp tHe PreSSes!!11"

Bizarre attempt to minimize a sudden and relevant example of the censorship that you and expectation had already been attempting to minimize.

Piker says in the interview that China is just another country, but it is only in countries with extreme censorship where you would be stopped in a prominent and popular location for streaming, like Tiananmen Square, and get rousted by the cops.

Communist countries are well known for such authoritarian restrictions and the irony of a communist like Piker, who in the USA calls for the murder of landlords and capitalists (protected by the 1st amendment), but then lands in his commie utopia, China, only to be immediately rousted just for milquetoast streaming, is off the charts.

Chinese citizens have been sent to the gulags and black sites for expressing their political opinions in Tiananmen Square for decades. Any Chinese doing something remotely suspicious there would at least spend some hours at the police station answering questions and I'm sure VPN laws would be strictly enforced in those cases.

Uniformed and plain clothes Chinese police routinely stop people in Tiananmen and have been caught beating them many times. They've done a good job cleaning the evidence from the web as I can no longer find the videos from the early 2000's of grannies getting kicked to the ground and thrown into vans.

The first two pictures are of Chinese secret police beating people in Tiananmen before hauling them away. The last is from an Atlantic article from 2012 of the police checking the phone of a regular citizen to make sure he didn't have any dangerous Winnie the Pooh memes.

 

[LaAguilaNegra]

The Hongqi bridge was recently completed in China. It's one of the world's highest bridges, and has been touted as an example of China's advancement and superiority.

Hongqi Bridge - HighestBridges.com

www.highestbridges.com

It just collapsed.



Edit: When I searched for the Hongqi Bridge, I got a link for the Huajiang Canyon Bridge which was also recently completed and very high. I think this bridge got a lot of attention, and the Hongqi bridge was not as famous. It's still a cautionary tale of hubris.

The correct word is tofu dreg. In China stuff collapses all the time due to horrific safety standards, low construction standards, rampant corruption and bribe taking. Hence tofu dreg. The materials used are often of subpar quality too, in that sense it's like everything else that gets produced in China. Large structural bridges crumble at an average of almost 3 per month, this is going by the CCP's own previous statistics bytheway. Although nowadays this type of data doesn't get reported anymore, can't maintain the fakey 'living in the future' hype when everything around you comes down in a cloud of carcinogenic dust. That's only bridges bytheway, residential buildings, tunnels, roads, mine shafts etc are a category of itself.

A few days ago a apartment's building's support structures collapsed on one side in Hubei, flat was just hanging there at a 40 degree angle. Also a few days ago a tunnel shaft got flooded in Sichuan, over a dozen of workers are missing and the local governments have, per usual, put a cap on the information dissipation. Aka everything gets deleted off the Chang web and rest assured that these guys are dead and their families will get zero compensation.





Below is a funny picture on Chinese building practices, unless you in live in China of course, then it ain't funny.

 

[LaAguilaNegra]

Your dedication to larping your experience on this board is incredible, Read_Lives_of_Saints. You have very good creative writing skills so I'll give you that. It is also obvious that you work with LAN to cloud this forum with nonsense and I don't have time to dispel all of them for the readers here.

There are a couple of things that gave you away.
1) Your Khmer Rogue Write-up is on the Southeast Asia thread is very generic but if you were actually on the tour, you would've known the basic story behind it. Once I shared the story, you immediately disengaged with a quick 1 sentence which is uncharacteristic of your posting habits and out of fear of exposing yourself further.
2) Why would you dedicate a portion of your life living in China while passionately disliking its food?
3) You reliance on Wikipedia on China which betrays your LARP. For instance, in your last post, Winnie the Pooh is not banned like it is claimed on Wikipedia. There are Disneylands in China.
4) Your constant backpedaling on the VPN. I had left behind clues on that China doesn't draconically enforce VPN. This is easily google-able as well.

• Had you skim through a few of the streams like for instance Speed, you would've realized that random fans approached him and knowing his episode. He had never streamed on any Chinese Platforms before that visit so if VPN was banned, how do these fans know him and his episodes.
• The comments section obviously had Chinese posters from the Supermarket Video.
• More backpedaling, there are Mainland Chinese Youtube posters and only enforces on VPN PROVIDERS - NOT individuals. Here is a Mainlander with a channel.
• A quick google search on Reddit also dispels this notion.

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Chuds can't help taking Ls, apparently the garden tool variety above is still rubbing the VPN stain. Heavy autism vibes, and it's quite noticeable that these commie thirdworlders and their RW chuds e-allies have trouble functioning in ecospheres where information diffusion is open, and debate barely censored.

None of the walls of cope and seethe have made the wumao predicament any more believable. Reality is simple. VPNs are illegal in China, and under Article 285 carry a maximum penalty of 3-7 years and 20000 rmb fine. VPN licenses are available for shills, international companies and botfarms. That's it.

It's really not that hard and half of these barely readable copetakes prove that point. Anyone with two braincells to rub together can hence do the math, fluent-in-English Chang influencer types who dump their sludge on YT and the likes are indeed propagandists. Yes, Chinese shills designed to work foreign audiences have access to VPNs, great point Chang thanks for your insight!

The chudtower stands tall and continues to rise. Y'all know the drill, with every chimpout another Chinese government advisory/threat against the use of VPNs gets added.

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[Cooper]

The correct word is tofu dreg. In China stuff collapses all the time due to horrific safety standards, low construction standards, rampant corruption and bribe taking. Hence tofu dreg. The materials used are often of subpar quality too, in that sense it's like everything else that gets produced in China. Large structural bridges crumble at an average of almost 3 per month, this is going by the CCP's own previous statistics bytheway. Although nowadays this type of data doesn't get reported anymore, can't maintain the fakey 'living in the future' hype when everything around you comes down in a cloud of carcinogenic dust. That's only bridges bytheway, residential buildings, tunnels, roads, mine shafts etc are a category of itself.

A few days ago a apartment's building's support structures collapsed on one side in Hubei, flat was just hanging there at a 40 degree angle. Also a few days ago a tunnel shaft got flooded in Sichuan, over a dozen of workers are missing and the local governments have, per usual, put a cap on the information dissipation. Aka everything gets deleted off the Chang web and rest assured that these guys are dead and their families will get zero compensation.

You're not American, Canadian or Anglo, and you typically post overnight from time zones falling anywhere between eastern Europe and India. You support India and Israel, so maybe it's the latter, which also jibes with your sympathy for paganism.

I doubt that the construction standards in your 2nd or 3rd world country are anywhere near China's. China today is the world leader in civil engineering, if you refer to serious sources, as opposed to the crap from the bottom of the social media barrel that you always post. They have been building more bridges, dams, buildings etc than the rest of the world combined.

in any case, I would much, much rather have China's alleged problem of low construction standards than living in countries run by lawyers, speculators and city inspectors where nothing ever gets built due to red tape and talmudic laws, and where home ownership is inaccessible for the middle class.

 

[Cooper]

Bizarre attempt to minimize a sudden and relevant example of the censorship that you and expectation had already been attempting to minimize.

Piker says in the interview that China is just another country, but it is only in countries with extreme censorship where you would be stopped in a prominent and popular location for streaming, like Tiananmen Square, and get rousted by the cops.

Communist countries are well known for such authoritarian restrictions and the irony of a communist like Piker, who in the USA calls for the murder of landlords and capitalists (protected by the 1st amendment), but then lands in his commie utopia, China, only to be immediately rousted just for milquetoast streaming, is off the charts.

Chinese citizens have been sent to the gulags and black sites for expressing their political opinions in Tiananmen Square for decades. Any Chinese doing something remotely suspicious there would at least spend some hours at the police station answering questions and I'm sure VPN laws would be strictly enforced in those cases.

Uniformed and plain clothes Chinese police routinely stop people in Tiananmen and have been caught beating them many times. They've done a good job cleaning the evidence from the web as I can no longer find the videos from the early 2000's of grannies getting kicked to the ground and thrown into vans.

The first two pictures are of Chinese secret police beating people in Tiananmen before hauling them away. The last is from an Atlantic article from 2012 of the police checking the phone of a regular citizen to make sure he didn't have any dangerous Winnie the Pooh memes.

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More people are arrested in the UK alone for social media posts or holding pro-Palestine signs than dissidents get arrested in all of China.

The pictures that you have posted above are remarkable in two aspects:

1- they are incredibly dated, and if you have to dig 20 years in the past for pictures of people getting arrested by Chinese police, doesn't that tell you something about the lack of such events in recent times, where every citizen has a cellphone camera?

2- they are incredibly TAME by modern western standards - the ghost of Ashli Babbitt says hello! In France alone over 100 people were shot in the face and eye during the recent gilets Jaunes protests:

gilets Jaune leader Jerome Rodrigues, shot in the eye with a rubber bullet from close range:


Police brutality in Germany:




The worst part of these violent political repressions is that they are all done on behalf of ((foreign countries)) and ((banksters)) that parasite and colonize their countries, whereas in China the police in Tiananmen cracked down on foreign agents who wanted to do to China what they did to Russia in the 1990s, colonize, parasite and rob the country.

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

More people are arrested in the UK alone for social media posts or holding pro-Palestine signs than dissidents get arrested in all of China.

The pictures who have posted above are remarkable in two aspects:

1- they are incredibly dated, and if you have to dig 20 years in the past for pictures of people getting arrested by Chinese police, doesn't that tell you something about the lack of such events in recent times, where every citizen has a cellphone camera?

2- they are incredibly TAME by modern western standards - the ghost of Ashli Babbitt says hello! In France alone over 100 people were shot in the face and eye during the recent gilets Jaunes protests:

gilets Jaune leader Jerome Rodrigues, shot in the eye with a rubber bullet from close range:


Police brutality in Germany:


The worst part of these violent political repressions is that they are all done on behalf of ((foreign countries)) and ((banksters)) that colonize their countries, whereas in China the police in Tiananmen cracked down on foreign agents who wanted to do to China what they did to Russia in the 1990s, colonize, parasite and rob the country.

Is there a Mandarin word for whataboutism?

Remember, this is The China thread and we're talking about censorship in China.