Situation in the Red Sea (Houthi Thread)

[Get2choppaaa]

This might have been the solution a year ago, but not anymore.
Over the last year Houthis have: exchanged blows with the US military and lived to tell the tale, shot down a dozen or so Reaper drones, gained control over who sails through one of the most important global trade routes, and scored billions in protection money. They went from being a minor nuisance, to a regional power broker. They won't give up on this even if we could end the war in Gaza today - they would just come up with another excuse.

We must destroy them. Period.

I'm biased because they shot missiles at me in the service.

But it still remains. They must be crushed. And Iran or anyone giving them weapons should be retaliated against also at the point of origin.

1 significant demonstration that is overwhelmingly robust will accomplish this.

Not saying nuke anyone. But a very very robust targeting package with the Navy's gloves untied would facilitate this.

We know where the weapons are coming from. Our intel has that mapped I'm sure

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

We must destroy them. Period.

I'm biased because they shot missiles at me in the service.

But it still remains. They must be crushed. And Iran or anyone giving them weapons should be retaliated against also at the point of origin.

1 significant demonstration that is overwhelmingly robust will accomplish this.

Not saying nuke anyone. But a very very robust targeting package with the Navy's gloves untied would facilitate this.

We know where the weapons are coming from. Our intel has that mapped I'm sure

If what Scott Ritter said about Iran locking on to our F-35's and causing them to turn back around in Israel's retaliation against Iran, then we are helpless.

This is what happens when you flood your country with third world people, then magically call them "equal" and your national IQ drops like a rock in water. Add in capitalism, causing our military equipment to become for-profit junk, and it is a recipe for disaster.

The only solution is a two-state solution and Israel bending the knee. But Israel will never accept that, so who knows what awaits us, but it isn't good. My guess, in 100 years this land is owned by China and the few non-Chinese here will be some sort of slave or servant, when all the dust settles.

 

[Thomas More]

If what Scott Ritter said about Iran locking on to our F-35's and causing them to turn back around in Israel's retaliation against Iran, then we are helpless.

This is what happens when you flood your country with third world people, then magically call them "equal" and your national IQ drops like a rock in water. Add in capitalism, causing our military equipment to become for-profit junk, and it is a recipe for disaster.

The only solution is a two-state solution and Israel bending the knee. But Israel will never accept that, so who knows what awaits us, but it isn't good. My guess, in 100 years this land is owned by China and the few non-Chinese here will be some sort of slave or servant, when all the dust settles.

The Houthi thing is no longer about Israel. If a two state solution is fully implemented in complete satisfaction of everything you think it ought to be, the Houthi's are not going close up shop and go home. They like being big shots and shooting at ships and getting protection money, and they're not going to stop just because their excuse for doing it ends.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

The Houthi thing is no longer about Israel. If a two state solution is fully implemented in complete satisfaction of everything you think it ought to be, the Houthi's are not going close up shop and go home. They like being big shots and shooting at ships and getting protection money, and they're not going to stop just because their excuse for doing it ends.

Maybe, I don't believe that to be true, but that might happen. Regardless, we gave Saudi Arabia a small fortune and all the dream weapons they could desire and the Houthi's beat them so badly they toss aside the disgraceful Abraham Accords and signed deals with Iran, guided by China's leadership.

I guess my point is, two things are true.

#1) The Iran axis in the Middle East is a lot stronger than anything we have faced since WW2, and our military is the weakest it has been since WW2.

#2) China is just going to keep blowing our doors off, while they support their people, family creation, and run a nation for their people, while we cut our own people off at the knees.

 

[Thomas More]

Maybe, I don't believe that to be true, but that might happen. Regardless, we gave Saudi Arabia a small fortune and all the dream weapons they could desire and the Houthi's beat them so badly they toss aside the disgraceful Abraham Accords and signed deals with Iran, guided by China's leadership.

I guess my point is, two things are true.

#1) The Iran axis in the Middle East is a lot stronger than anything we have faced since WW2, and our military is the weakest it has been since WW2.

#2) China is just going to keep blowing our doors off, while they support their people, family creation, and run a nation for their people, while we cut our own people off at the knees.

Right. The Houthi's have been fighting everyone for a long time. They fought against the Saudis, then they wanted to fight some more so they decided to claim they were just so loyal to the Palestinians that they were going to start attacking ships. What do they care about the Palestinians? Nothing. It's just an excuse because they want to be militants.

They are nowhere close to being tired of being militants. Look how well it's going for them! They're not gonna walk away from all this mayhem. It really has nothing to do to with Israel when you get down to it.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Right. The Houthi's have been fighting everyone for a long time. They fought against the Saudis, then they wanted to fight some more so they decided to claim they were just so loyal to the Palestinians that they were going to start attacking ships. What do they care about the Palestinians? Nothing. It's just an excuse because they want to be militants.

They are nowhere close to being tired of being militants. Look how well it's going for them! They're not gonna walk away from all this mayhem. It really has nothing to do to with Israel when you get down to it.

This could be true, that after a two-state solution they are still willing to fight. I guess in the end, it doesn't matter, the USA is powerless to stop them. It would take a military draft and that wouldn't go over at all.

Israel was protected by the super advanced White Christian West. That no longer exists, and neither does the base of Israel's strength. As time moves forward, the west and Israel will only grow weaker until they are ripe for the picking.

 

[Cooper]

The Houthi thing is no longer about Israel. If a two state solution is fully implemented in complete satisfaction of everything you think it ought to be, the Houthi's are not going close up shop and go home. They like being big shots and shooting at ships and getting protection money, and they're not going to stop just because their excuse for doing it ends.

Yemen has a lot of natural resources, and they can leverage their strategic location through peaceful means, the same way for instance Djibouti and Dubai have.

Their leaders actually care about the Palestinians. the piracy business is more trouble than it's worth.

 

[Cooper]

We must destroy them. Period.

I'm biased because they shot missiles at me in the service.

But it still remains. They must be crushed. And Iran or anyone giving them weapons should be retaliated against also at the point of origin.

1 significant demonstration that is overwhelmingly robust will accomplish this.

Not saying nuke anyone. But a very very robust targeting package with the Navy's gloves untied would facilitate this.

We know where the weapons are coming from. Our intel has that mapped I'm sure

With the current escalation in Ukraine, the Houthis are likely to get some potent packages from Russia, they would be able to strike any USN ships in the region or army bases in the KSA/GCC.

 

[Get2choppaaa]

Yemen has a lot of natural resources, and they can leverage their strategic location through peaceful means, the same way for instance Djibouti and Dubai have.

Their leaders actually care about the Palestinians. the piracy business is more trouble than it's worth.

Sure.

But the Houthi ability to interfere with global shipping MUST be destroyed, and their enablers punished as well.

That's what is likely going to happen and something I expect Trump to facilitate. We have the assets to do this. @It_Is_My_Time I'm not convinced at all that Iran dissuaded a capability of our military. It's more that the current regime is not giving them teeth nor focused on that front as they seem to be focused on the slush fund that is Ukraine.

Curious your take @LaAguilaNegra on first 100 days from practical point of view.