So whites too?
[POLL] Your views on race and migration.
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Australia is also still a penal colony and that stentch will never leave the place as the corruption is wild in government agencies etc and the cucking for agencies like the WEF etc is disgusting, have a look how the country dealt with 'the pandemic'.
Also, most of the nature has been destroyed, and whatever is left is being destroyed, by greed. Most National Parks are now furnaces for the green agenda, yes you heard that correctly.
Whites knew about Australia since the early 1600s. Abel Tazman I believe? They called it New Holland. Just they didn’t know what to do with it. There was a ship called the Batavia that shipwrecked in W Australia and the conditions, both natural and people, were just flat out nightmarish. My point is if the Dutch took a pass shouldn’t we forgive the Asian societies?
The Asian societies were always a step or two behind the European societies. They were impressive, but not quite on par with European societies. Australia was in their backyard, so with some creativity they could have found a use for it. It was a long and treacherous journey for the Europeans to get there. The fact they colonized it first is remarkable when looking at a map.
I remember reading about the Opium wars in China, and how China would send out thousands of little boats to challenge the European battleships and not even score a direct hit and then get wiped out. Sort of like when the USA entered WW2 and in the first big battle Japan has their navy virtually crushed by the American navy.
Which is why I say, if Whites disappear, and we have gone from 33% to 7% in 125 years, so it will happen soon enough, then the Chinese will take over. Until then, the Chinese are kept in check by White society as they couldn't keep up. But that is quickly disappearing.
And by the way a lot of immigrants are actually wise to the immigration issue and the problems it brings. Paradoxically as an immigrant you can recognize that mass immigration is bad for a country as a whole and for you as an individual yet still want to be an immigrant in that country. I was born in Australia to immigrant parents and yet myself and my parents do not want more immigrants coming here (yes somewhat hypocritical admittedly). Just as there are for example people on this forum that would love to live in Japan as an immigrant but only if Japan remains Japanese and doesn't get flooded with immigrants.
Its a game theory paradox/problem essentially. Its like if a bank run looks like might possibly occur then as an individual you should rush to the bank to withdraw all of your savings yet if everybody rushes to the bank to withdraw their money it causes the very bank run that they feared occurring. You can be an immigrant to a country that is homogeneous and low immigration (e.g. Japan, Poland, Estronia, Hungary, etc) and recognize that is part of what makes the country great yet at the same time if too many people take the same course of action it causes the very problem that you sought to escape by moving to that country.
Its a game theory paradox/problem essentially. Its like if a bank run looks like might possibly occur then as an individual you should rush to the bank to withdraw all of your savings yet if everybody rushes to the bank to withdraw their money it causes the very bank run that they feared occurring. You can be an immigrant to a country that is homogeneous and low immigration (e.g. Japan, Poland, Estronia, Hungary, etc) and recognize that is part of what makes the country great yet at the same time if too many people take the same course of action it causes the very problem that you sought to escape by moving to that country.
Good description and honest, but it is also intuitively understood by everyone as normal self-interest.
The white-guilt narrative pretends to emerge from an objective perspective of universal morality applied equally, everywhere and for everyone, a feature of Christianity, but it is purposefully weaponized by our enemies against us.
We are not morally obligated to participate with those outside our nation/race/ethnos in a dialect of Marxist envy meant only to harm us.
Our enemies have found a cheat code that sounds like Christian morality, but it is not a Christian practice to coerce others into assuming levels of spiritual accomplishment for which they are not ready. Jesus Christ meets you where you are and guides you gradually toward a continuous process of salvation. He does not demand that you suddenly obey his commandments perfectly, which would be impossible to do, so we do not have to accept this demand from our enemies either.
For example, the Church is perfect, but the people within it are not and are all at different levels of ability in obeying Jesus' commandments. We do not constantly demand all of these different people at different places in their attempts to deny themselves, pick up their cross and follow Jesus or else they'll need to attend a struggle session, but communists do.
Communists assume the position of a superior moral arbiter, throw everyone into re-education famine camps at once, and then tell them it's for their own good.
That's what is happening when people try to shame whites for not welcoming mass immigration, and all of the accompanying horrors, as atonement for their sins.
Where did your family come from?
There is a difference between your family which moved to Australia to become Australians and my family who moved to America to become Americans and the immigrants being forced on us now who are coming to our countries to leech off of it and bring their dump countries with them.
Your Japan example is good one, there are many here whose ultimate goal is to become an immigrant themselves. I highly doubt they would be moving to dump on their new countries like the ones coming here now are doing.
There's an inherent problem with these propositional identities. As soon as you concede someone can become something else you're already on very shaky grounds. Its kind of upstream of the whole choosing your own gender debate. Identity is inherited and passed down, its not a Swedish buffet that every individual in every new generation redefines for themselves on a whim. And in most cases the host identity is not tightly defined in the first place. So British identity has been reduced to nothing but love of multi-culturalism, equality and democracy. The values that constitute the new identity have been specifically selected to undermine and destroy the historic identity. You could well have a well-intentioned Nigerian immigrant moving to Britain, thinking he can become British by intermarrying with a local, working hard and supporting the British army with enthusiasm when they're sent to attack the next globalist target. I mean he's not consciously dumping on his new country but he's definitely undermining its historic identity (an identity which he probably doesn't comprehend and can't opt into even if he could) and is a useful pawn. That's obviously hypothetical as the majority of immigrants are not coming to change their identity, "contribute to the economy" (they would be quite happy to contribute nothing to the economy as long as they benefit personally) or because they buy into the prevailing ideology. All three of those assumptions are just part of the prevailing pro-immigration propaganda. Even if you take the new opt-in identity as desirable, its still open for complete abuse. Anyone can claim they're moving for the right reasons. A large majority of the immigrant population in the UK knows what buzz words to use to be seen to have loyalty to the prevailing dogma. It would be laughable to think that the Muslim population of Britain has an inherent loyalty to multi-culturalism. It's just politically and socially expedient for them to profess appreciation for it given the current context they find themselves in. It ensures they are not scrutinised and allows them to access positions of power or influence. Which in turn allows the establishment to hold them up as examples that everything is working and to keep the flow coming in. Most immigrants don't actually believe in the prevailing dogmas or if even if they have some passive acceptance, they are not something that they would sacrifice or die for. There's this underlying assumption to the whole concept of propositional identities that (1) everyone agrees on what the common identity is, (2) its unambiguously good, (3) anyone can morph into anything else and (4) everyone that says the right things is a success story, has successfully transitioned and is indistinguishable from a native. All of those assumptions are insulting to the intelligence.
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While I agree with what you're saying there is a differentiation between culture and nationality, I didn't say moving to another country changes your culture in fact I would vehemently disagree with that concept myself. In the USA this discussion is a bit different.
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If you have personal questions like that feel free to message me with a private message. I don’t like giving too much personal info over a public forum (doxxing risk, etc).
Nobody is trying to claim for example that you are Japanese if you move to Japan.
But anybody on this forum who for example moves to Japan would try their best to fit in and to make a positive contribution to the country rather than be a parasite like many people who move to the west today are (Indians, etc).
I think immigration is okay in small numbers (e.g. 10,000 foreigners per year moving into a country) if it’s the right kind of people but mass immigration is always highly problematic.
It's charming to have the occasional 1% percentile, respectful foreigner around to make you feel even whiter and American than usual, but in the USA the federal government allows them to concentrate in certain neighborhoods or take over small towns and destroy the local culture.
You mean I can’t become Korean if I move to Korea and try really hard to act like Koreans? What if the Korean government gives me a piece of paper that says I’m a Korean citizen, I believe Korean government is best government, and change my name to Gi-hun?