Papal conclave

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I know the sentiment here regarding the Pope. Whatever. You wouldn't've used that word if it wasn't close. I detest it when sewer bound terminology creeps into everyday language. Anyway, keep the schism going.

As to actions, I'll repeat myself, a Church is all of her people, and that table above shows why I've never been impressed with the Orthodox at all. It's a screenshot from a deceitful wiki article about the term jew-commune, but that data is true. Today it's even worse, before the influx of Ukrainian refugees (they may be made citizens, who knows), there were a few isolated Orthodox communities remaining in Poland, and their voting patterns mirror American blacks- 90% consistently support the former communists- the left which progressively champions abortion and deviancies, while the general population gave that party a maximum of around 48% (sad to see) only one time. Where are their priests or 'pops' to tell them- wait a minute my beloved parishioners, what is this all about? They're the poops not pops, that's why, it's all poop top to bottom.

When I read 'ask your priest' here, I can't help but hear 'ask your pop Vanya' as my mind processes it. I will say more when I respond in the Catholic Church debate thread, which I wanted to do since February and created the account solely for that reason, then I can go back to checking raw news in the 'newest comments' section on the right side of the page, without commenting.

Anyway, when it comes to epic changes, it matters more who follows, rather than who leads- soldiers under heavy fire will never respect and loyally follow a bad commander with no charisma, no matter his rank, if they don't like him they'll stay true to themselves, their apathy and reluctance will doom his efforts. The disciples who didn't desert Jesus went on to spread the Gospel. St. Peter spoke for everybody when he answered they had nowhere else to go, since the Lord had the words of everlasting life. I also don't really believe in brainwashing, people are what they are, and show their true colors when the circumstances allow it. The bad ones can behave properly and adjust to the environment, but they're not really themselves. I want a world when I can see who people really are- what they like, and believe in. The Orthodox have given much love to Jewish communism, they've followed their lead in huge numbers.

And your source is? Even if we assume you're correct that is no reason to remain Roman Catholic. Deciding on a church because of a community is a mistake. Every church has good and bad members, they're all sinners but a good community is not a good reason to be part of one because even sects can have such. Church is not a country club. What is crucial is the correct teaching, dogma and tradition. Those things are unobtainable in RCC. If you don't like how orthodox are in Poland that's no excuse because it's just one part of the whole canonical Church. You can be the last righteous orthodox man in Poland and remain in communion with The Church, you can also go to Serbia, Greece or what have you and remain a fully vetted member of The Church there. One doesn't even need to know local language to commune. And local community could be super based. Correct order is this: foundation > decor.

 

[Cooper]

 

[budoslavic]

By 1928 all of the Orthodox who resisted Communism had been slaughtered, the majority of the ones left were the ones who supported Communism.

Thalerhof (Talerhof) Internment Camp (1914-1918) should be discussed as well because roughly 800 Orthodox priests died in the concentration camp.

I know the sentiment here regarding the Pope. Whatever.

Why post in this thread then? I noticed you have sufficient privileges to post in the Catholic forum.

You wouldn't've used that word if it wasn't close. I detest it when sewer bound terminology creeps into everyday language. Anyway, keep the schism going.

This creepy guy fits the definition of "schism".

As to actions, I'll repeat myself, a Church is all of her people, and that table above shows why I've never been impressed with the Orthodox at all.

We weren't impressed with Pope Francis and his Marxist cronies within the Vatican because they got rid of Traditional Catholics such as Bishop Vigano, Bishop Strickland, etc.

When I read 'ask your priest' here, I can't help but hear 'ask your pop Vanya' as my mind processes it. I will say more when I respond in the Catholic Church debate thread, which I wanted to do since February and created the account solely for that reason, then I can go back to checking raw news in the 'newest comments' section on the right side of the page, without commenting.

Again, why post in this thread?

Anyway, when it comes to epic changes, it matters more who follows, rather than who leads- soldiers under heavy fire will never respect and loyally follow a bad commander with no charisma, no matter his rank, if they don't like him they'll stay true to themselves, their apathy and reluctance will doom his efforts. The disciples who didn't desert Jesus went on to spread the Gospel. St. Peter spoke for everybody when he answered they had nowhere else to go, since the Lord had the words of everlasting life. I also don't really believe in brainwashing, people are what they are, and show their true colors when the circumstances allow it. The bad ones can behave properly and adjust to the environment, but they're not really themselves. I want a world when I can see who people really are- what they like, and believe in.

You really should pay attention to the Bible's scriptures on false teachers. A lot of us saw through the Vatican's deceptions over the past decade under Pope Francis.

The Orthodox have given much love to Jewish communism, they've followed their lead in huge numbers.

Huh? What are you basing this on?

Ever heard of Thalerhof Internment Camp? Bolsheviks Revolution? Persecution of Christians in the former USSR? Closures of Orthodox Churches during Stalin Regime (Stalin was an atheist)?

Edit. Speaking of "...much love to Jewish communism", did you know that the ((()))ish Congress advocacy group opened an office at the Vatican in October 2023? What was that all about?

 

[NSOE]

Why post in this thread then? I noticed you have sufficient privileges to post in the Catholic forum.

I've replied to Ostrog's provocative comment and it snowballs from there. We're in a Catholic thread in the Christianity section after all. I plan to respond in the Catholic forum at some point, there's a lot to talk about.

We weren't impressed with Pope Francis and his Marxist cronies within the Vatican because they got rid of Traditional Catholics such as Bishop Vigano, Bishop Strickland, etc.

I'm impressed with neither, the Russian government affiliated patriarchs, nor the average believer for the earlier mentioned reasons. In communist Poland all [Russian] Orthodox bishops were intelligence agents, but the Church became "autonomous" from the Moscow patriarchate in the early sixties. People have their own beliefs no matter who their bishops are. I was who I am before I ever heard of Vigano, I will be the same without him. I don't go to church for politics. Some people change but it has to come from within, not from without. Believers come and go. On Dec 13 2019, the anniversary of the Polish martial law I was joking with my family we would see a martial law-lite under the guise of the pandemic which we expected to be absolutely nothing serious, nothing different than the pig flu, the hong kong flu, or whatever that came before. Roosh was still saying his parents might need to shelter at home for a few weeks. Even if this forum had recommended the vaccine I wouldn't have taken it. I follow my gut, priests and bishops hold their ecclesiastical offices and they're there to celebrate mass and give the sacraments. I don't get my political opinions from the Church. My mother was one of only three people in her class not to join the communist youth in High School- two girls and one guy.

This creepy guy fits the definition of "schism".

Father Martin is most likely a homosexual, but it's a sin for me to say so. I only ever come across him here, and the first time I've heard about him was when Roosh reviewed one of his books. He doesn't exist for me aside from that, I should start praying for him.

Huh? What are you basing this on?

Ever heard of Thalerhof Internment Camp? Bolsheviks Revolution? Persecution of Christians in the former USSR? Closures of Orthodox Churches during Stalin Regime (Stalin was an atheist)?

Tsar Nicholas II clamped down hard on Catholics, Poles from "Russia" had to travel to "Germany" or "Austria" to have a Catholic wedding, including someone from my family, I have no other details as it was too long ago, he had many Polish priests imprisoned. The Austrian Catholic monarchy liquidated some Catholic monastic orders (St.Clement) too. I'll elaborate in the Catholic forum eventually. Their bureaucracy would obstruct and try to prevent monasteries from expanding, when a permit was requested.

I blame Orthodox Russians for the Revolution. Moscow succeeded Constantinople. Look how many Rusyns (Belarusians and Ukrainians) in Poland still favored communism a decade afterwards, this was yet greater in Russia proper, leading up to the disaster. They failed to support their Christian emperor in a civil war, and volunteered for a satanic cause instead, as they lacked Grace. Jews led, Russians willingly did the fighting. The Tsar was the richest man on Earth, but I am not for sale- raise your hand if you are, Schiff wouldn't be able to bribe me either. He who accepts the payment bears most of the blame. And besides, the pot was boiling and the lid would have blown off anyway. Many Polish villages and towns were trapped in this upheaval, my people firmly rejected this madness, it wasn't our affair. One of my ancestors lost a small fortune, like you find out at 55 your 401(k) is gone. Dzerzhinsky was embraced by Russians, not by us- I knew a now deceased Polish man whose father was pressed into service by none other, he deserted his post at the first safe opportunity. The Tsar would have never lost, had his people not abandoned him. It was worse than the French Revolution, for Russia and the whole world.

Speaking of "...much love to Jewish communism", did you know that the ((()))ish Congress advocacy group opened an office at the Vatican in October 2023? What was that all about?

You need to come back and ask when we have killed millions in service to them, the way Russians did in 1918.

 

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Pizza bella. At least it's a funny name. XD

 

[Thomas More]

Pizza bella. At least it's a funny name. XD

I couldn't believe that was a real name, but I looked it up and it is.

 

[Samseau]

Look how many Rusyns (Belarusians and Ukrainians) in Poland still favored communism a decade afterwards, this was yet greater in Russia proper, leading up to the disaster.

The Rusyns were violently persecuted by the Austrians (aka Polish) during WW1, it's no surprise they voted for Communism.

 

[NSOE]

The Rusyns were violently persecuted by the Austrians (aka Polish) during WW1, it's no surprise they voted for Communism.

For over a century until then, we had to brave the attempted Russification, there was beef. I don't see any logic there, you don't ever vote for Satan.

Poles didn't support Jewish communists (volunteers needed- risk your limb and life fighting against the emperor and his family) in their campaign against the Tsar, and the nominally or factually Christian elites of the country (the clergy, the elite professors, elite engineers and scientists, doctors, military, civil servants) even though in the past, no occupational government was kind to us- neither the Austrian Catholics, nor the German Protestants or especially not the Orthodox Russians. The White Russian faction offered us independence in exchange for support, but the country was to be confined to the Congress Poland borders, similar or smaller in size than the Dutchy of Warsaw Napoleon created (he had about a hundred thousand Poles in his Grande Armee)- they couldn't guarantee German or Austrian territory, we had our own fight to win, and nothing came out of it.

As to the conclave, I don't think Parolin or any of the publicly promoted media darling favorites will be chosen. But God only knows.

I couldn't believe that was a real name, but I looked it up and it is.

Doubting Thomas. Name change in order.

 

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no occupational government was kind to us- neither the Austrian Catholics, nor the German Protestants or especially not the Orthodox Russians.

You are blind to the Zionist Occupational Government Poland has been under for centuries, hence the Paradisus Judeorum nickname. Poland was ZOG's bitch then and it is now. You talk about Orthodox Russian occupation but completely fail to mention the ZOG/Bolshevik/Soviet occupation which was by far the worst. Luckily for you Pete Quinones is now posting podcasts where he reads 200 years together.

 

[ginsu]

By the most pressing issue facing the world he means the replacement and genocide of christians all over the world and who is behind it right ?. RIGHT ?.

 

[GodfatherPartTwo]

All of these articles guessing at who the next Pope will be are clickbait. There's much more political intrigue behind the scenes than any of us know. Historically, the Papal office was often sold to the highest bidder. It's easy to see that looking back but hard to see in the present.