Netherlands Thread

Came first in the Dutch elections but it still wasn't enough -

Gilders said:
In practice motions are often ignored, but this is traditionally accomplished via bureaucratic means. This is dishonorable for the minister but they can get away with it. What's new is that they now say the quiet part out loud, basically stating plainly that they are without honor.
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Can you say how they say this in Dutch? Maybe post a small paragraph if you see one. Just curious..
 
stadtaffe said:
Came first in the Dutch elections but it still wasn't enough -


Can you say how they say this in Dutch? Maybe post a small paragraph if you see one. Just curious..
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Wilders just plays his part as he was instructed to.

As you requested, a direct quote from Schouten out of a previous X message that I linked: "Ik ontraad deze motie met klem en mocht deze motie worden aangenomen, dan zal ik hem ook niet uitvoeren!" I see the other X message I linked has been removed by now.

As a bonus: Rutte's favorite trump card to deal with getting caught red-handed in a lie: "Ik heb daar geen actieve herinnering aan." That means "I have no active memory of that." He really gets away with that. Didn't happen if you don't remember it, right? It's unbeatable infantile logic!
 
Valentin Pearson said:
Khakhakha goghogogo de loos ik mek nak versteehen van der gestimmtenseinlik nederlands.
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Of course it's all just a charade like the ones we've seen before. The time of politics has really ran it"s course.

Pim Fortuyn and JFK proved that with their lives unfortunately.
 
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Quoting myself here because what I outlined is mostly what happened:
Gilders said:
I don't know the future, but here's a potential scenario that'll play out over the next few months:

1) Attempt to make a (fake) right wing coalition with PVV, NSC, VVD, but VVD declines.
2) Attempt to make a mixed coalition with PVV, NSC, GL-PvdA. This is guaranteed to fail, but formation protocol demands it to be "seriously considered".
3) Lots of talk about a minority government, which goes nowhere.
4) NSC, GL-PvdA, D66, VVD coalition considered as VVD flips back to wanting to be part of a coalition again.
5) Option 1) reconsidered.

This circus will keep going for as long as the current government needs to hand remaining power over to EU/WEF/WHO. If we get a government real fast it means the power transfer has been completed.
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The Netherlands is set to sign the WHO agreement, despite the House of Representatives voting against it, because ministers these days show open contempt for them and do what they want. The earlier instances were just to get people used to it I guess. With that last step taken Rutte can leave for Brussels and a new puppet government can be installed.

It's now set to be a coalition of PVV, NSC, VVD, and BBB. Wilders likely won't become prime minister. Doesn't matter who it is anyway. The usual platitudes are heard about how the new government is going to enact change. I don't know if anyone still falls for those lies for real.

If anything happens that requires Rutte to stay on longer something will be fabricated to delay the official formation of a new government.
 
PVV, NSC, VVD and BBB have already gotten off to a bad start (well, good for NSC and VVD neoliberals) - Dick Schoof, former intelligence chief, has finally been sworn in as Prime Minister.

I have nothing that personal against Schoof, but he was a Labour Party member until a couple years ago. The guy they had as first choice for PM was, wait for it, a retired Labour Party politician.

Schoof himself said the Dutch people could not be incorrect about mainstream Dutch politics being suspicious if so many had voted for PVV - so the decision was made to make him, a serving minister under Rutte, the new PM?

Even if PVV succeeds in getting ongoing immigration under control, large swathes of Amsterdam and Rotterdam are a multikulti mess, without even mentioning similar problems in other cities.

Plus, 25% of people voted for PVV and it is over a third if you include BBB and Baudet’s various manifestations/splinters.

The average PVV and FvD folks are not out in the open with their support because everyone knows they’d be attacked by the usual suspects and police would literally be too scared to stop these attacks.

I do not even think it’s a matter of state/elite support of attacks on PVV supporters. The powers that be rather have no idea how they would control particularly Moroccan political violence, as they already struggle with the regular kind of crime from these kinds of communities.
 
TruckDriver9 said:
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Supposedly it will be american military that will execute it. This will affect future elections in Europe. It´s good. If it´s not done to silence jew critics.

Probably the european countries which oppose it. Will get hammered by Trump with tariffs, sanctions, etc. Hit them hard. It will be easy to know which countries ANTIFA has stronger roots. This ANTIFA group is international. And all it´s tentacles should be cut out. Maybe building some bigger mental asylums before operations start would be responsible planning.
 
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Holland is screwed



Dutch far-right Geert Wilders suspends campaigning after report of Belgian terror cell threat

Geert Wilders, the Dutch leader of the far-right Party for Freedom (PVV) said he is suspending campaigning activities for the upcoming national election, following reports that he was a possible target of a suspected plot in Belgium to kill politicians.

Three young men were arrested in Belgium on Thursday after investigators discovered a homemade explosive which the suspects were reportedly planning to attach to a drone to carry out the attack.

Prosecutors said the police raids were part of an investigation into “attempted terrorist murder and participation in the activities of a terrorist group.” They didn't identify the politicians who might have been targeted, but Belgian government ministers identified Belgian Prime Minister Bart De Wever as one target.


Wilders had cancelled an appearance at an election debate with other political leaders following the reports. Later, he posted on X that the Dutch National Coordinator for Counter-Terrorism and Safety (NCTV) confirmed to him he was one of the targets of the suspected plot.

He said authorities do not "expect a residual threat, but I have a bad feeling about this and am therefore suspending all my campaign activities for the time being."……
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^Also, plenty of Dutch companies operate in China, they're wide open to retaliations.

They should have at least organized a repurchase of that company in an orderly manner, this kind of hostile takeover is a war-like act.
 
expectation said:
Dutch Gov't nationalizes Nexperia - a semiconductor company owned by the Chinese.

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A couple things to update & retro clarify. Its all related to Trump Tariff and I personally suggest to move these back to these thread to make the conversation more coherent and I expect other nations to get involved.

1) The US Commerce Department increased # of entities subject to export restrictions on September 29th (a day before the Golden Week Holiday for China)

2) ...coming back from the Golden Week and in response to #1 - China had responded with the REE Controls late last week as discussed on the Tariff Thread.

3) Using #1, the Dutch Govt removes Chinese mgtment from Nexperia after the REE Controls.

4) Now, China had banned Nexperia from exporting products made in China. A significant portion of Nexperia's assets are located in China & Hong Kong.



 
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I know CNN is a poor source, but I don't have time to search for a more acceptable source. I believe this information is accurate, which is sufficient for the moment.

The article says that the government has not taken ownership of Nexperia, but has imposed control over their management. To me, this is not nationalization, because the government will not own it. This is regulation, although it certainly is aggressive and even hostile regulation.

The government said late on Sunday that it has intervened in Dutch-headquartered Nexperia, which manufactures chips for cars and consumer electronics. It cited worries about the possible transfer of technology to Nexperia’s Chinese parent company, Wingtech.

Amsterdam invoked never-before-used powers under a Dutch law known as the “Availability of Goods Act.” The decision led to a 10% fall in Wingtech’s shares in Shanghai Monday.

The Dutch government will not take ownership of Nexperia, but it will now have the power to reverse or block management decisions it considers harmful. The company’s regular production is continuing.
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