Is Voting Worth It?
- Thread starter The Penitent Man
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I don't hate the concept of voting. I hate the fact that America's political system has long been hijacked by the fake two-party system.
Monarchies were absolute nightmares. How would you like to be executed by some inbred moron who's only in the chair because of royal bloodlines and nepotism? Even at the time of America's founding, the only part of the British "monarchy" that anybody even liked were the Federalist expressions of the government anyway. Fascism makes a much stronger case. There's a reason that it's so persecuted by TPTB.
The sad fact is there is no system or institution that is beyond the power of human sin to corrupt and subvert. Everything can be gamed. America's system was among the best ever, but it's been gamed and hijacked by the political parties (just as some of the Founders feared). That said, fake opposition is not unique to federalism or democracy. You could have a one party state and still get played by controlled opposition.
Many parties is theoretically better, I'm not sure, In Europe there may be 15 parties to vote for, and the choice is still between communists and patriots, they cooperate and the parliamentary mechanics lead to similar outcomes from country to country, you label each of the movements as either/or, and draw the dividing line as if there were only two parties. It's effectively the same. Republicans span from libertarians to neocons, Democrats from Bolsheviks to social democrats, people vote for individuals who are for sale if they have no principles. European MPs may be cheaper than their American colleagues.
Voting rights should be restricted, maybe the more in taxes you pay, the more weight your vote carries. Anybody who works, or does most of his business with the government should be prohibited from voting, cops and soldiers included. Also Capitalism/economic freedom should be for flesh and bone humans, not for trusts, LLCs, Corps, etc. Shared ownership is achievable without using invented ethereal, intangible entities that hide behind layers of legal fortified lines.
Voting rights should be restricted, maybe the more in taxes you pay, the more weight your vote carries. Anybody who works, or does most of his business with the government should be prohibited from voting, cops and soldiers included. Also Capitalism/economic freedom should be for flesh and bone humans, not for trusts, LLCs, Corps, etc. Shared ownership is achievable without using invented ethereal, intangible entities that hide behind layers of legal fortified lines.
The deal with monarchy is that someone is accountable. Our system is extremely removed from being able to hold a leader personally accountable. If we are upset the blame is simply shifted back to us: We voted for it. Not to mention the people holding the actual power are not even the politicians that provide us with the consumable product but are people hidden, purposely, within/above the system.
And, implicit to our current mindset is "a belief in a system". We have no trust in a person. We have statements like "absolute power corrupts absolutely" but is that actually always true? I say: no, there are reasons we have stories like King Arthur. But, after saying all this, I think our society/culture is extremely far removed from being able to produce men with virtue like that and accept men like that as leaders. The horrific monarchs we often criticize in history had already diminished in virtue and sold themselves out to the same hidden class that holds the power today. We are too far gone. There is a general trend in history and it is degradation. All these revolutions were calculated to get is to where we are today. So, to me it's best to work with, and stick to, whatever is seen as the traditional way of doing things in our time. Work against the revolution mindset. Which is kind of funny because part of what is traditional now is being proud of a revolution (American one) but I'll do it for the sake of the good intents and sacrifices of the good men of our past.
And, implicit to our current mindset is "a belief in a system". We have no trust in a person. We have statements like "absolute power corrupts absolutely" but is that actually always true? I say: no, there are reasons we have stories like King Arthur. But, after saying all this, I think our society/culture is extremely far removed from being able to produce men with virtue like that and accept men like that as leaders. The horrific monarchs we often criticize in history had already diminished in virtue and sold themselves out to the same hidden class that holds the power today. We are too far gone. There is a general trend in history and it is degradation. All these revolutions were calculated to get is to where we are today. So, to me it's best to work with, and stick to, whatever is seen as the traditional way of doing things in our time. Work against the revolution mindset. Which is kind of funny because part of what is traditional now is being proud of a revolution (American one) but I'll do it for the sake of the good intents and sacrifices of the good men of our past.
This was how it used to be. One of the great revisionist lies of our time is that America was founded as a democracy. People are so ignorant of their own history that I doubt they could even tell the difference between a federal republic and a pure democracy. As we continue to degrade into a democracy, the differences between the states become increasingly less meaningful. Originally, only land holders could vote. Now, the propagandists, revisionists, and news networks keep pushing the idea that "everybody has the right to vote."
Other way around. The only way to hold a king accountable was by putting his head on a pike, i.e. revolution. Kings would hold the people accountable, usually in the form of massacres by the thousands.
Your post explains exactly why fascism, and if I hear another conservative call a leftist a "fascist", I might lose it, was created.
Fascism's aim is to solve this issue of monarchy by having a hierarchy group of men, who have proven themselves through service and duty, to lead society. These men also have the most at stake, meaning they are going to have more desire to do what is right by the country and people for their own benefit.
Since outright slavery has been discredited, democracy is the only remaining rationale for state compulsion that most people will accept. Democracy has proven only that the best way to gain power over people is to assure the people that they are ruling themselves. Once they believe that, they make wonderfully submissive slaves.
- Joseph Sobran - "The Myth of Limited Government"
- Joseph Sobran - "The Myth of Limited Government"
The RCC has the Pope and his senior cardinals advising him, he has the last word but takes their advice into account, the Holy Synod of the ROC, or the elder councils of Protestant churches. Experienced, older men make the decisions.