Iran-Israeli Conflict Thread

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Nothing will happen.

Oh so this time something big is going to happen that will put an end to Iran. Not. Oh so this time Iran will level Israel. Not. This time the US will invade Iran. Not.

Yes, it's all theater that doesn't affect anything anyone does here in the US yet you fall for it every single time. Whatever happens we'll never know it happened (except you'll remind us ad nauseum that something happened) which means it didn't happen. You really are a sucker for mental anguish and stewing over matters you have no control over.

... if they are all on the same side, why don't they just go into their bunkers, release some deadly chemical, kill us all out, and then come back up and reinhabit the planet?

This has been answered 1000 times:

From 2025:
Remember, the elites need us to "invest" in (((their))) 401K scams and to put new roofs on their mansions and to deliver their uber eats. Nuclear holocaust effects (((them))) as much as it does us, which is why it won't happen.

And again from more recently:

(((They))) don't want all out civil war and collapse because they need normies of all races and religions to be the wage slaves that put new roofs on their mansions, bring in backhoes to dig their underground bunkers, and to maintain their yachts, Rolls Royces, and private jets.
 
I do agree that Israel's reputation is at it's lowest. That's not something I have ever challenged. What I instead was challenging was the evaluation of what was happening on the battlefield on the ground where people's perceptions were massively distorted to the point they thought Tel Aviv wouldn't be on a map, as an example.

If I recall, there's people here that thought Iran was winning on military grounds despite there been no actual indicators on the battlefield they were. Being able to drop bombs from a jet without the target country being able to challenge that as in Iran or being able to level neighborhood at will like what is happening in Gaza is indeed an indication of military superiority. I'm not saying this is moral or right for Israel to do so. Rather I'm merely saying that it's a sign that Israel is able to dominate their surrounding neighbors militarily. Only people who are letting their moral principles distort their view of what is going on are going to deny this, to circle back to the original point. I don't like that Israel can run unchallenged pulling these sort of stunts, but that is indeed what is happening whether I like it or not. I thought you were big on being realist such as when you talk about how China is going to destroy the west whether we like it or not? If you can be sober minded in that situation, you should be able to be sober minded here too.

Also, I recall one of the big reasons you gave for why you thought Iran was winning the last skirmish against Israel was because you saw videos on X of Iranian missiles being launched into Israel. By your own standards, seeing big explosions and buildings collapsing is an indication of a country winning a war. Did you change your mind on that? If you did, then it must mean you did actually in the end thought that Iran did not achieve victory.

If global reputation is a factor, then you can't say Russia is winning either since they are also a global pariah at this point. In that case, it's another example of MgGregor's evaluation of the war being off.
Geopolitics is zero sum and game theory, noone beats the Israelis (and Americans) in this field. This is ultimately why every supposed coinflip falls Tel Aviv's way, and why with every bout Israel's position strengthens whilst Iran's weakens. It's late already. The Iranians are backed up against a wall and any further concessions - in this case its deterrents, would mean the de facto demilitarization of the regime. The endgame really does feel close. Consider it a game of chess where achieving a checkmate requires advanced plays, thinking ahead and compounding strategies.

Post October 7, 2023 Israel has systemically stripped Iran naked and picked it apart. Notice how with every confrontation the core issue discussed moved towards Tehran's final position. The latest round was 8 months ago during which Israel launched a successful surprise attack to set in motion the trail of dominoes that would eventually lead to the destruction of Iran's nuclear production program. Execution was flawless. And despite Cucker Tarlson and the rest of the clown cart warning about how this would be suicidal and end in thousands of dead US servicemembers, the B52 bombers flew in, did the job and the ayatollahs sat there and took it.

The June War in itself was only made possible due to Iran's collapse in the Middle East a year prior. The destruction of Tehran's proxy deterrence and its militias' defeats in Lebanon, Syria, Gaza and to a lesser extent Iraq was the stepping stone for the June War just like the June War will be the stepping stone for what comes next. Unless Tehran can break this cycle it will ultimately perish. Especially the fall of Bashar paved the way for continuous Israeli aggression on and in Iran, this must be emphasized.

Now the pendulum has swung even further. After the June War and destruction of its 40 year old nuclear program, the Israelis and Americans want more, there's blood in the water. In the current negotiations the US+Israel want a ban on Iran restarting its program and a handover of the enriched uranium that was carted out beforehand. Even Iran's ballistic missile program is on the agenda. Ergo Israel will not stop until Iran has been turned into a castrated Treaty of Versailles tier German state. And at some point Tehran will have to stand up and initiate yet they are weak and there's noone who backs them up. Also note that any Iranian concessions will make it even easier for Israel to tip over the Islamic Republic anyway a bit down the line.

Game theory. It's really simple. Israel has achieved a string of victories and with each of them Tel Aviv's confidence grew and realization of Iran's internal weakness and limited power projection became stronger. Building on that conviction and track record Washington is currently negotiating the total removal of the Iranian nuclear deterrent, much like Bashar was relieved of his biological weapon program in 2012 in a Russian-American-Israeli one up. And remember, if you're constantly taking them on the chin whilst ceding ground withdrawing towards your castle you are, in fact, losing.
 
Geopolitics is zero sum and game theory, noone beats the Israelis (and Americans) in this field. This is ultimately why every supposed coinflip falls Tel Aviv's way, and why with every bout Israel's position strengthens whilst Iran's weakens. It's late already. The Iranians are backed up against a wall and any further concessions - in this case its deterrents, would mean the de facto demilitarization of the regime. The endgame really does feel close. Consider it a game of chess where achieving a checkmate requires advanced plays, thinking ahead and compounding strategies.

Post October 7, 2023 Israel has systemically stripped Iran naked and picked it apart. Notice how with every confrontation the core issue discussed moved towards Tehran's final position. The latest round was 8 months ago during which Israel launched a successful surprise attack to set in motion the trail of dominoes that would eventually lead to the destruction of Iran's nuclear production program. Execution was flawless. And despite Cucker Tarlson and the rest of the clown cart warning about how this would be suicidal and end in thousands of dead US servicemembers, the B52 bombers flew in, did the job and the ayatollahs sat there and took it.

The June War in itself was only made possible due to Iran's collapse in the Middle East a year prior. The destruction of Tehran's proxy deterrence and its militias' defeats in Lebanon, Syria, Gaza and to a lesser extent Iraq was the stepping stone for the June War just like the June War will be the stepping stone for what comes next. Unless Tehran can break this cycle it will ultimately perish. Especially the fall of Bashar paved the way for continuous Israeli aggression on and in Iran, this must be emphasized.

Now the pendulum has swung even further. After the June War and destruction of its 40 year old nuclear program, the Israelis and Americans want more, there's blood in the water. In the current negotiations the US+Israel want a ban on Iran restarting its program and a handover of the enriched uranium that was carted out beforehand. Even Iran's ballistic missile program is on the agenda. Ergo Israel will not stop until Iran has been turned into a castrated Treaty of Versailles tier German state. And at some point Tehran will have to stand up and initiate yet they are weak and there's noone who backs them up. Also note that any Iranian concessions will make it even easier for Israel to tip over the Islamic Republic anyway a bit down the line.

Game theory. It's really simple. Israel has achieved a string of victories and with each of them Tel Aviv's confidence grew and realization of Iran's internal weakness and limited power projection became stronger. Building on that conviction and track record Washington is currently negotiating the total removal of the Iranian nuclear deterrent, much like Bashar was relieved of his biological weapon program in 2012 in a Russian-American-Israeli one up. And remember, if you're constantly taking them on the chin whilst ceding ground withdrawing towards your castle you are, in fact, losing.


Tell us LaNegra, how is the weather in Tel Aviv today?
 
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Nothing will happen.

Oh so this time something big is going to happen that will put an end to Iran. Not. Oh so this time Iran will level Israel. Not. This time the US will invade Iran. Not.

Yes, it's all theater that doesn't affect anything anyone does here in the US yet you fall for it every single time. Whatever happens we'll never know it happened (except you'll remind us ad nauseum that something happened) which means it didn't happen. You really are a sucker for mental anguish and stewing over matters you have no control over.

It has never been answered. If everyone is already on the same team, and everyone is just putting on a show, then why don't they just get on with it? If the entire world is conquered by satan, they don't need to placate us. With all that said, this is the ultimate black pill post. If you believe satan has already captured the entire planet and there is no hope, then you are probably in a very bad place mentally and I pray you find your way out of it.

As far as if this kicks off or not, no one here knows. No one knows how it will go. We do know that billions we don't have has already been spent to move military equipment to the middle east to put up a front. That adds to our inflation issues, and that can be felt at the grocery store.
 
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