Good States to Live in the United States

I’ve had some Protestant women tell me “I’m practically a pagan that showers.”
Although I do see some humor in that, I'm almost embarrassed to have the Protestant badge upon hearing it. I don't know how I feel about kissing a painting with everyone in Church sometimes, but for such a young denomination to say that about Orthodoxy shows a little ignorance about Christianity's roots.
 
Were starting to veer into Protestant debate thread haha. Although I’m researching the Emerald coast more and more. Pensacola is in easy driving distance to Mobile and seems it has multiple orthodox parishes. New Orleans is only 3h away. Is Mobile a decent city if I need to drive in for larger city stuff?
 
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If you keep going west from Florida and Alabama, the Mississippi Gulf Coast looks like it has potential too. Very affordable homes, beaches (although not as nice as Florida and Alabama), peaceful living, close to New Orleans, Mobile, Pensacola. Almost looks like going back in time a couple decades.
 
Were starting to veer into Protestant debate thread haha. Although I’m researching the Emerald coast more and more. Pensacola is in easy driving distance to Mobile and seems it has multiple orthodox parishes. New Orleans is only 3h away. Is Mobile a decent city if I need to drive in for larger city stuff?
I haven't been to Mobile, but you can get beautiful houses for a fraction of the cost as most places. Picture those big Southern houses for $250-300k. Insane.

Mobile looks like a more laid back version of New Orleans, with a nice downtown. Baldwin County (in-between Mobile and Pensacola) is fantastic. Lots of nice towns and beaches. I think you can get a great quality of life in this entire Gulf area (Panama City all the way to Mississippi).
 
I haven't been to Mobile, but you can get beautiful houses for a fraction of the cost as most places. Picture those big Southern houses for $250-300k. Insane.

Mobile looks like a more laid back version of New Orleans, with a nice downtown. Baldwin County (in-between Mobile and Pensacola) is fantastic. Lots of nice towns and beaches. I think you can get a great quality of life in this entire Gulf area (Panama City all the way to Mississippi).
You hit the nail on the head. Mobile has some of the same cultural character as New Orleans, but more down to earth. However, crime is somewhat high (way better than NOLA though). Baldwin county is just across the bay, and many people are moving there. It's a real nice area with nice amenities and culture in the local area, and close to beaches and other Gulf Coast cities.
 
I had lived in Mobile 20 years ago for a couple of years. Back then you could rent a house for $200. It's full of Blacks like all big cities in the South, I guess. Lots of crime by Blacks, Mobile is majority Black now. The locals were hateful of anyone not from there, like someone had put it, they hate you if you're born 2 hours away, say in NOLA, that's too far/you're an outsider, they dk if you're white they just hate outsiders, fat too. Very cliquish and corrupt and many people hostile towards churches that aren't of their own denomination. Horribly hot humid climate, and no-see-ums biting outside, can't peacefully sit outside. Giant roaches size of a mouse, they literally ate a baby bird in my backyard. I guess this is as close to Africa as it can get, older time South Africa if you compare US states with countries. As a bonus, you might get hit by both a hurricane and a tornado, or get eaten by a shark.
 
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It's very black, but southern blacks are good people; any issues with black people almost exclusively happen in northern cities like New York, Detroit, Chicago, etc.
Tell this to my buddy who got robbed at gunpoint by them right near local University. Or another one whose car they stoned cause he made a mistake of driving through their area. Or others who got their houses robbed by them, they used to pull up a truck and load everything from the house including furniture. Africa-o-bama fully meets definition of a 3rd world hole.
And a lot of crime that happens there is never registered so it's not in fbi stats.
 
Regarding that region, I recall I knew someone who grew up in the woods of white corner of Southern Louisiana close to a big lake, the pines are pretty nice there and air smells good with them, lots of places to fish, hunt toads, etc. No blacks there. Because of French cajuns, in part, probably, that area felt less inbred than Africabama, but still people are very insular in this region and anyone moving there will be forever outsider. The climate is terribly hot.
 
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I had lived in Mobile 20 years ago for a couple of years. Back then you could rent a house for $200. It's full of Blacks like all big cities in the South, I guess. Lots of crime by Blacks, Mobile is majority Black now. The locals were hateful of anyone not from there, like someone had put it, they hate you if you're born 2 hours away, say in NOLA, that's too far/you're an outsider, they dk if you're white they just hate outsiders, fat too. Very cliquish and corrupt and many people hostile towards churches that aren't of their own denomination. Horribly hot humid climate, and no-see-ums biting outside, can't peacefully sit outside. Giant roaches size of a mouse, they literally ate a baby bird in my backyard. I guess this is as close to Africa as it can get, older time South Africa if you compare US states with countries. As a bonus, you might get hit by both a hurricane and a tornado, or get eaten by a shark.
I thought it was bad with Colorado mountain town residents hating on Denver/Front Range, and Denver hating on people from other states.

But that's way worse!
Tell this to my buddy who got robbed at gunpoint by them right near local University. Or another one whose car they stoned cause he made a mistake of driving through their area. Or others who got their houses robbed by them, they used to pull up a truck and load everything from the house including furniture. Africa-o-bama fully meets definition of a 3rd world hole.
And a lot of crime that happens there is never registered so it's not in fbi stats.
This story isn't the South, but a conference for a huge industry was held at a hotel in Baltimore. A couple of black teenagers mugged one of the attendees. Apparently the victim was actually bigger/stronger than the teenagers and he contemplated pushing them off the wharf. But, they could be armed, so he just gave them his wallet and iphone. He had no cash, he cancelled his cards, disabled the iphone, so they didn't get anything but a gift card.

The conference brought in millions of revenue for that hotel, surrounding restaurants, etc. The service workers were of course mostly black and the conference attendees are loaded and tip really well. Now there's no chance the conference will return to Baltimore.

Black people in Baltimore bite the hand that feeds them.
 
I thought it was bad with Colorado mountain town residents hating on Denver/Front Range, and Denver hating on people from other states.

But that's way worse!

This story isn't the South, but a conference for a huge industry was held at a hotel in Baltimore. A couple of black teenagers mugged one of the attendees. Apparently the victim was actually bigger/stronger than the teenagers and he contemplated pushing them off the wharf. But, they could be armed, so he just gave them his wallet and iphone. He had no cash, he cancelled his cards, disabled the iphone, so they didn't get anything but a gift card.

The conference brought in millions of revenue for that hotel, surrounding restaurants, etc. The service workers were of course mostly black and the conference attendees are loaded and tip really well. Now there's no chance the conference will return to Baltimore.

Black people in Baltimore bite the hand that feeds them.
I've spent many years in Mobile, and this doesn't ring true to me at all. I find the locals very welcoming, and I haven't been a victim of a crime down here. There is a large black section of town, and I suppose I would avoid walking through there at night, but there's nothing in those areas to attract me anyway. In places that I would want to go, I've always felt safe.

Also, while it is hot and humid, so is the rest of the south. Mobile is typical in that regard. Same with insects.
 
Tell this to my buddy who got robbed at gunpoint by them right near local University. Or another one whose car they stoned cause he made a mistake of driving through their area. Or others who got their houses robbed by them, they used to pull up a truck and load everything from the house including furniture. Africa-o-bama fully meets definition of a 3rd world hole.
And a lot of crime that happens there is never registered so it's not in fbi stats.
I haven't personally seen major crime yet, but I did recently take an excursion to Birmingham, Alabama, and most of it did definitely seem a lot rougher than the northern Alabama areas that I based my original statement off of. And it was like there were no whites in the city at all, except of course in the suburbs.
There are reasons Alabama is still toward the bottom of most rankings of states, even if a tad better than Mississippi.
 
I haven't personally seen major crime yet, but I did recently take an excursion to Birmingham, Alabama, and most of it did definitely seem a lot rougher than the northern Alabama areas that I based my original statement off of. And it was like there were no whites in the city at all, except of course in the suburbs.
There are reasons Alabama is still toward the bottom of most rankings of states, even if a tad better than Mississippi
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Alamaba is a horrible nigger hellhole, they're everywhere that's all I'm going to say. I really wish I could be smoking the good stuff someone who thinks Alabama is good is smoking, the stuff must be potent. Plus tornadoes and no see ums eat you alive on the porch.
 
In all honesty, what’s stopping us Orthodox types from copying the Amish homework? If we form any extremely insular, no outsiders culture, “what’s a good state” will no longer be a conversation. An insular community that’s just left alone - just like the Orthodox Jews and the Amish.
 
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In all honesty, what’s stopping us Orthodox types from copying the Amish homework? If we form any extremely insular, no outsiders culture, “what’s a good state” will no longer be a conversation. An insular community that’s just left alone - just like the Orthodox Jews and the he Amish.
Isn't that what Russia is?
 
Isn't that what Russia is?
If you are cool with being drafted to go fight in Ukraine sure. I know this forum is very pro Russia but I feel the truth is more like “Russia*” Love that that asterisks. Terms and conditions apply. Or else they - actual Russians - wouldn’t move here. I know they have a “tap out of globohomo” visa but how much of that is looking for guys for the meat grinder? Like I said elsewhere I’m waiting to see how things resolve. There was a Danish guy who got in trouble over there using what they call the shared values visa.

We’d have better luck building an Amish-esque community here in America.
 
If you are cool with being drafted to go fight in Ukraine sure. I know this forum is very pro Russia but I feel the truth is more like “Russia*” Love that that asterisks. Terms and conditions apply. Or else they - actual Russians - wouldn’t move here. I know they have a “tap out of globohomo” visa but how much of that is looking for guys for the meat grinder? Like I said elsewhere I’m waiting to see how things resolve. There was a Danish guy who got in trouble over there using what they call the shared values visa.

We’d have better luck building an Amish-esque community here in America.
So here is better than Russia as far as the prospects of getting drafted?

I am too old to be drafted, so it's an academic question for me. However, if you are exploring the idea of an Amish-like community in a western country, I can't see the draft being off the table as an option. If you have a militant government threatening war against all international competitors, and a severe shortage of volunteers for US military service, something has to give.
 
Re-boot, from @Knight.of.Logos:

Once I finish graduate school, I plan on relocating. Fortunately, I picked a career with pretty high job prospects so I will be able to move to basically any state. I currently live in New Jersey with my family, and it is sad how much this state has fallen. There are so many Indians and Asians here, many of which who barely speak English and are not Americans as far as I am concerned. The women here are often unattractive and even the "attractive" ones are generally shallow and unattractive inwardly. It's also pretty rare to meet guys that I resonate with, although I was finally starting to since I've been going to church. Now that it is closed, I am basically isolated, although I do use this opportunity to get closer to God and develop spiritually.

I like the mountains a lot, so I was considering Montana. I've been to Colorado and found it beautiful, but I am not sure if I will run into many of the same problems as NJ in Colorado. I've also considered Oregon/Washington, as well as New Hampshire. I am curious if anybody here has some perspective on the matter. I'm really looking forward to getting out of this state, as it seems to only be getting worse over time. I'm a friendly and adaptable guy, but I wouldn't want to move to a place where people are hostile to outsiders. I want a place that has a good community feel, so that I can have people to network with and develop gifts of the spirit to share within my community. One of my goals is to buy land after a couple years of working, and build up on it/farm on it. I'd love to meet the right woman and settle down, but I also am open to basically living a more monk-like life if that is what God wills for me. I think I will have much better luck finding the right woman in a state that isn't quite so degenerate.

Any opinions or thoughts are welcome.


I have lived in both states.You absolutely will run into many of the same problems in Colorado, except for people are more Active and fit. However you will see less of it in Springs. The state has gone very leftist albeit you will find more enclaves of good people in Springs or in the small towns (excepting the ski vacation towns). I can give a longer answer later but it wouldn't be my first choice.

If you want a place that has a good community feel I haven't found anything else quite like a couple of parishes(specifically Colwich and Derby) in the Wichita diocese, which I've heard described several times as one of the most conservative Roman parishes in the entire USA. The downside is that the town is boring and there's some significant areas which are full on Midwestern trashy with a lot of property crime and drugs (less so in the areas I named).
 
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