Electric Vehicles Thread (Bikes, Cars, Trucks, etc.)

Cooper said:
You're probably better off sticking with stories of muh million Muslim holocaust in the Xinjiang illustrated with the same picture from 10 years ago.

Google answer for "rate of car explosions evs vs ice"
Studies spanning 2010–2020 saw EV battery fire rates at 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion engine (ICE) cars. In Poland, EVs and ICE vehicles had equal incident rates—approximately 0.23 fires per 1,000 registered vehicles.
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How about rates of injury? Stats? Opinions?

I've seen probably 10 passenger car fires in the wild in my life and in all of them people exited quickly and were uninjured.

The vids of EV fires I've seen look a lot worse and give me the impression that the risk of injury is higher because of a much faster combustion rate that quickly leads to a catastrophic explosive fire that invades the passenger compartment, whereas ICE fires are usually contained in the engine bay and take longer to spread, and some of mine have not eventually engulfed the car, whereas the big battery fires look worse.
 
LaAguilaNegra said:
Didn't know Volvo was now owned by a Chinese company, Geely. Immediately started having problems with Chinese made lithium batteries as well. Fortunately European safety standards and imposition thereof are above the Chinese hence the Volvo EVs were recalled over safety risks. Either way sad to see, Volvo used to be a pinnacle of trustworthiness.



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I know a guy who has one of these. I'll ask him about this tomorrow.
 
I rode on a 2024 Volvo model Uber last year, and lived to tell the story... I don't remember the model number but it was a very nice interior and ride, the driver who was Indian was very pleased with his car and said the new models were significantly better in terms of specs and battery range. That was the only time I have been inside a Chinese EV.
 
Demand for Chinese EVs is booming, they're going to take over markets in Asia and elsewhere, displacing Japanese, Korean and European manufacturers.

 
Vas Incrementum said:
So the war is hastening the phasing out of the internal combustion engine. How convenient to have a war bang in the middle of the oil hub and where leaders have recklessly abandoned diplomacy, 4 years short of (Agenda) 2030. You'd be forgiven for thinking it was all planned years ago.
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Not sure about the reasoning here, because with an EV you can at least run it on your own solar panel energy supply, whereas with ICE you are at the mercy of the state/corporate gas infrastructure. The new ICEs are just as chipped and controlled as the new EVs, see the assassination of investigative journalist Michael Hastings in 2013, who crashed his Mercedes sedan into a tree in LA driving at very high speed, he died in that crash days before releasing his new findings on the deep state's conduct in Afghanistan.
 
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Cooper said:
Not sure about the reasoning here, because with an EV you can at least run it on your own solar panel energy supply, whereas with ICE you are at the mercy of the state/corporate gas infrastructure. The new ICEs are just as chipped and controlled as the new EVs, see the assassination of investigative journalist Michael Hastings in 2013, who crashed his Mercedes sedan into a tree in LA driving at very high speed, he died in that crash days before releasing his new findings on the deep state's conduct in Afghanistan.
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I made no claim of EV being better or worse than ICE or on how chipped they are these days. I merely pointed out how useful the war was for the technocrats in the UN, WEF, in heralding in Agenda 2030 (Aka, the Great Reset) on time.
 
A simple affordable electric car that could be charged at home or on the road with solar or alternator while on the road would be a game changer for transportation, problem with electric cars now is they too expensive and too many gadgets and fancy tech, if an electric vehicle could run how I just described its a good deal for the individual as you could operate the vehicle without ever needing to buy fuel ever again, only problem is replacing the batteries every few years but this tech could also improve, or else we need to improve the tech of an old steam engine 😅
 
Ironically enough, EVs were around
GoodShepherd said:
A simple affordable electric car that could be charged at home or on the road with solar or alternator while on the road would be a game changer for transportation, problem with electric cars now is they too expensive and too many gadgets and fancy tech, if an electric vehicle could run how I just described its a good deal for the individual as you could operate the vehicle without ever needing to buy fuel ever again, only problem is replacing the batteries every few years but this tech could also improve, or else we need to improve the tech of an old steam engine 😅
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Prices are coming down, performance going up, the main problem with EVs is that the supply chain is monopolized by China. We need to catch up, perhaps by taking a chapter from their book and forcing them to transfer technology in exchange for access to our markets.
 
RedLagoon said:
EV's are horrendously wasteful, I can run my 35yr old Land cruiser on used fryer oil.

Re the EV question, it's just a phase as they don't want you to have any autonomy.
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I knew a British-Cantonese woman from Hong Kong who managed a factory in mainland China that made batteries and solar panels. The way she described the pollution it created was horrendous.

I hope they handle their pollution better, but even if they do, the various costs of creating those batteries is extreme.
 
Cooper said:
Ironically enough, EVs were around


Prices are coming down, performance going up, the main problem with EVs is that the supply chain is monopolized by China. We need to catch up, perhaps by taking a chapter from their book and forcing them to transfer technology in exchange for access to our markets.
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Just do what they have been doing to US for decades, take one of their cars, take it apart and reverse engineering the thing, see if they like that👍
 
RedLagoon said:
EV's are horrendously wasteful, I can run my 35yr old Land cruiser on used fryer oil.

Re the EV question, it's just a phase as they don't want you to have any autonomy.
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Where are we supposed to get the used fryer oil? A good solar panel is autonomy, I dont have to buy anything to run my car, In South Africa when we were dependant on the government for our electricity and they failed to supply us, people were forced to go off the grid and solar was great, it gave people autonomy and they no longer had to pay a monthly electriciry bill, the transition was expensive though.

The electrical cars as they stand right now are no good though, a new idea is needed and at a much much lower price
 
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