El Salvador and Nayib Bukele Thread

I still haven't seen any updates on the "free" passports or if they were given out. The last news item or public service announcement was from April.
 

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I definitely agree with Bukele's approach. I wish more leaders could be as effective as him. I will never understand why Western nations tend to place some romanticized idealism above results. They continue to elect leaders like Justin Trudeau and Emmanuel Macron over more effective ones. Also, Western media tends to paint effective leaders in a bad light despite their effectiveness. I mean, look at Nayib Bukele, Lee Kuan Yew, Vladimir Putin, etc.; they are painted as 'dictators.'

Bukele also proves that a leader has great power and, if they want to, they can really solve problems. Look at El Salvador's crime rate. After years of criminal activity, Bukele decided El Salvador had enough. In just several short years, he managed to solve generational problems. I suppose in the West, if the leaders really put in the effort, immigrants and n-word criminals could be dealt with swiftly.

There is a saying that you can't make an omelet without breaking eggs. To get results, a leader must make difficult choices and be willing to be painted in a bad light. In Southeast Asia, former leaders like Duterte and Soeharto once had very effective death squads who performed extrajudicial killings on criminals.
 
Seng Hock said:
I definitely agree with Bukele's approach. I wish more leaders could be as effective as him. I will never understand why Western nations tend to place some romanticized idealism above results. They continue to elect leaders like Justin Trudeau and Emmanuel Macron over more effective ones. Also, Western media tends to paint effective leaders in a bad light despite their effectiveness. I mean, look at Nayib Bukele, Lee Kuan Yew, Vladimir Putin, etc.; they are painted as 'dictators.'

Bukele also proves that a leader has great power and, if they want to, they can really solve problems. Look at El Salvador's crime rate. After years of criminal activity, Bukele decided El Salvador had enough. In just several short years, he managed to solve generational problems. I suppose in the West, if the leaders really put in the effort, immigrants and n-word criminals could be dealt with swiftly.

There is a saying that you can't make an omelet without breaking eggs. To get results, a leader must make difficult choices and be willing to be painted in a bad light. In Southeast Asia, former leaders like Duterte and Soeharto once had very effective death squads who performed extrajudicial killings on criminals.
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To ne fair, Bukele did do a bunch of wild stuff that I'd be afraid of, were western politicians granted similar freedoms for their satanic purposes.

An example is that Bukele essentially changed the constitution so that he could be re-elected. Previously, re-election was not legal according to the Salvadorian constitution.

Another example is how essentially announced the state of emergency almost perpetually so that he could use the army to incarcerate all those thugs. A brilliant move, but it would get egregiously misused in the west, if that kind of a precedent were set.

Don't get me wrong, I'll always praise Bukele, I'm a huge fan of his moves and if the EU really were to be run by one single "dictator", I'd have no issue with him being at the helm. But that kind of power would lead to utter utter chaos if the likes of Scholz, Sanchez etc. had it. It would basically be like the pandemic on steroids.
 
Droughtmeat said:
To ne fair, Bukele did do a bunch of wild stuff that I'd be afraid of, were western politicians granted similar freedoms for their satanic purposes.

An example is that Bukele essentially changed the constitution so that he could be re-elected. Previously, re-election was not legal according to the Salvadorian constitution.

Another example is how essentially announced the state of emergency almost perpetually so that he could use the army to incarcerate all those thugs. A brilliant move, but it would get egregiously misused in the west, if that kind of a precedent were set.

Don't get me wrong, I'll always praise Bukele, I'm a huge fan of his moves and if the EU really were to be run by one single "dictator", I'd have no issue with him being at the helm. But that kind of power would lead to utter utter chaos if the likes of Scholz, Sanchez etc. had it. It would basically be like the pandemic on steroids.
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As a Southeast Asian, having authoritarian leaders is often seen as essential for effective governance. People here are generally content with leaders who exhibit authoritarianism and questionable ethics, as long as they deliver positive results. Ironically, democratic leaders tend to be ineffective and fail to fulfill their campaign promises.

To see the outcomes of democratic leadership, just look at Timor Leste. Is it as developed as its authoritarian neighbors?

In the West, there are leaders who could benefit from more power and authoritarianism to accomplish their tasks and promises, such as Donald Trump. Imagine if the Democrats and leftists were eliminated, and Trump could serve as president indefinitely. The U.S. would become a paradise, with secured borders, revitalized rust belts, jobs returning, and respect from other countries.

However, you are right that power must be wielded by those who are worthy. Leaders like Olaf Scholz, Pedro Sanchez, Angela Merkel, and Sadiq Khan should not have any power, let alone dictatorial one-man powers.
 
Seng Hock said:
As a Southeast Asian, having authoritarian leaders is often seen as essential for effective governance. People here are generally content with leaders who exhibit authoritarianism and questionable ethics, as long as they deliver positive results. Ironically, democratic leaders tend to be ineffective and fail to fulfill their campaign promises.

To see the outcomes of democratic leadership, just look at Timor Leste. Is it as developed as its authoritarian neighbors?

In the West, there are leaders who could benefit from more power and authoritarianism to accomplish their tasks and promises, such as Donald Trump. Imagine if the Democrats and leftists were eliminated, and Trump could serve as president indefinitely. The U.S. would become a paradise, with secured borders, revitalized rust belts, jobs returning, and respect from other countries.

However, you are right that power must be wielded by those who are worthy. Leaders like Olaf Scholz, Pedro Sanchez, Angela Merkel, and Sadiq Khan should not have any power, let alone dictatorial one-man powers.
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True. You also have to make sure that power is secured for centuries essentially in the form of successors who are being trained and fit for the task.

In the US that would be something like Trump -> Musk -> Vance -> whoever is up next. All stay in power until they are no longer mentally fit for the task. Without doing that there's a risk of collapse just like in Yugoslavia after Tito's death and no one to take over with the huge political vacuum that created.

At their core I feel as though genuinely good woke people actually have great intentions and are striving for perfection. But they fail to realize that allowing pansexual trans lesbians to get abortions creates more chaos and suffering than simply sticking with what we had merely 15 years ago.
 
Musk cannot be President because he was not born in the United States.

I think Bukele’s brothers are seen as the succession plan for ES. Time will tell if the globalists and bankers can turn it back into a shithole like most of the rest of the world.
 
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