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Hello all, we're collecting donations once again for our ongoing site hosting. This will cover the cost of servers, security infrastructure and software we depend on.

If our surplus becomes large in the future we may consider allocating some funds to further reinvestment in site growth such as a marketing budget, but any decisions like that will only be taken after polling the membership and ideas finalised by the leadership team. For now we just want to ensure we have enough funds to keep this site going for years to come.

Thank you for every donation, big or small, as well as to all the members of our site who make this the great place that it is.

Cryptocurrency wallet addresses:
XMR (Monero): 82a6MKAjrg5hFF7aQvz7LRfpJiUWhLztmRKj1y7ztZUtMYQHNX3d2v3hkWDhPPe381UzQGuBSi836cLcYXuvSHKN2wxtB6y
BTC (Bitcoin): bc1q7yy4qe69qp9lpddv8v5v03v36g4y8zz3crfdlx
ETH (Ethereum): 0x11dA6F01B91079628a02C2Fc09d9458787a146e9

As for how to send cryptocurrency, refer to Daily Stormer's great guide for how to buy and send Monero.

For BTC and ETH specifically most of the info is relevant but the steps are simpler - you'll want to purchase BTC or ETH from an exchange like Kraken, Coinbase, CashApp or Binance. From there you can send it directly to our appropriate wallet. Our wallet addresses are rotated periodically to ensure that they will not cause your accounts to be flagged by sending directly from exchange to them.

We prefer XMR as that's the currency we use to pay for our hosting, but we're fine with taking the other currencies too as we can exchange them to XMR later ourselves and they offer a simpler way to donate for most people.

Thanks all and may God bless you.
 
Valentine said:
For BTC and ETH specifically most of the info is relevant but the steps are simpler - you'll want to purchase BTC or ETH from an exchange like Kraken, Coinbase, CashApp or Binance. From there you can send it directly to our appropriate wallet. Our wallet addresses are rotated periodically to ensure that they will not cause your accounts to be flagged by sending directly from exchange to them.
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With AI Large Language Models continuously scanning the permanent blockchain, I think it's not a good idea to encourage donation on transparent KYC cryptos. It's better if everyone here swap their transparent crypto to XMR before donating. There's plenty swaps and exchanges that allow such trades.
 
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Based_Christian_Dude said:
With AI Large Language Models continuously scanning the permanent blockchain, I think it's not a good idea to encourage donation on transparent KYC cryptos. It's better if everyone here swap their transparent crypto to XMR before donating. There's plenty swaps and exchanges that allow such trades.
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LLMs don't enable significantly greater blockchain observation than was present before. There's a large number of steps that would have to take place before non-XMR donations would become a risk:
  • First is CIK a site of interest? Maybe, but doubtful since we have a much smaller, less extremist, more religious and more private presence than RVF did.
  • Is there an agent or team assigned to peruse this site regularly? There are many forums, blog comment sections, chat groups, social media, etc online let alone offline, how much time is there really to dedicate to observing our particular website? Even if this is automated to a degree it's a significant engineering effort on an ongoing basis, and the data would need analysing, summarising and reporting on to be of any use. Bureaucracy in government leads to endless long meetings, are we likely to be the focus of multiple of these? There are many, many higher priority groups to investigate.
  • If our wallet addresses are identified, what's the likelihood they would care? If in the case they do, they would need to have legal authority to demand exchanges provide KYC data on customers who use the exchange to send to our wallets. It's extremely unlikely they'd be able to get a court order for this as there's no terrorist or illegal activities occurring on our site.
  • Even in the worst case scenario a law enforcement agency obtained KYC data they can't do anything with it because no crimes have been committed.
We're serious about the INFOSEC of ourselves and our members, and the risk analysis shows that it's extremely unlikely to be a concern. Maybe if we were as high profile and infamous as the Daily Stormer it'd be worth going XMR-only, but for now that's not the case so I think this is an overblown concern.

You're free to only use XMR yourselves if this doesn't fit for your threat model. And we'll evaluate the risk regularly to decide if we should go XMR-only in the future.
 
Valentine said:
LLMs don't enable significantly greater blockchain observation than was present before. There's a large number of steps that would have to take place before non-XMR donations would become a risk:
  • First is CIK a site of interest? Maybe, but doubtful since we have a much smaller, less extremist, more religious and more private presence than RVF did.
  • Is there an agent or team assigned to peruse this site regularly? There are many forums, blog comment sections, chat groups, social media, etc online let alone offline, how much time is there really to dedicate to observing our particular website? Even if this is automated to a degree it's a significant engineering effort on an ongoing basis, and the data would need analysing, summarising and reporting on to be of any use. Bureaucracy in government leads to endless long meetings, are we likely to be the focus of multiple of these? There are many, many higher priority groups to investigate.
  • If our wallet addresses are identified, what's the likelihood they would care? If in the case they do, they would need to have legal authority to demand exchanges provide KYC data on customers who use the exchange to send to our wallets. It's extremely unlikely they'd be able to get a court order for this as there's no terrorist or illegal activities occurring on our site.
  • Even in the worst case scenario a law enforcement agency obtained KYC data they can't do anything with it because no crimes have been committed.
We're serious about the INFOSEC of ourselves and our members, and the risk analysis shows that it's extremely unlikely to be a concern. Maybe if we were as high profile and infamous as the Daily Stormer it'd be worth going XMR-only, but for now that's not the case so I think this is an overblown concern.

You're free to only use XMR yourselves if this doesn't fit for your threat model. And we'll evaluate the risk regularly to decide if we should go XMR-only in the future.
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Yes, but I'm talking about the future as well; remember, we now live in a worldwide dystopia and the western world has clearly demonstrated banana republican values, e.g. Roger Ver did everything "legally" when renouncing US citizenship and yet look what happened years later.
 
@Valentine

Thanks for your volunteer help behind the scenes with maintaining CIK 👏

Is there a straightforward way to see how much has been donated towards the goal for site maintenance on an annual basis?

Maybe you could consider adding a progress bar at the top of this thread updated monthly or so, combined with a simple post here. I think this promotes some transparency into CIK operations and serves as an ongoing reminder and encouragement for members to donate.

Additionally, it seems as if the 'Philanthropist' tag been retired?

I would suggest reinstating this tag, as it can function first as a social incentive for contributing, and second, as a point of insight about other members' involvement in CIK. Although my donations have been modest, perhaps a 'Star Philanthropist' tag could also be given to those who donate, say, more than 10% of the annual goal.

You can still give members an opt-out choice from this in case they don't want to be recognised.

All the best and thanks again.



Disclaimer: the following is not advice, merely information to consider. I am not a bitcoin or crypto expert. As always please do you own research 😉

Donations via Bitcoin - Info and Resources

FrancisK said:
Cash app makes it pretty easy, you just buy some btc on there and send it to the address valentine listed. It does not require any knowledge in regards to crypto to do it.
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Thanks for sharing.

Donating via BTC would be the easiest way given how many sites encourage its use. This isn't the most secure method, however Valentine has made a case above for why BTC donations are unlikely to pose a risk to members.

Related tutorial for cash app: https://www.bitcoinmagazinepro.com/...ash-app-and-send-to-another-wallet-with-ease/

To my knowledge, using cash app is limited beyond the US. Here are some alternatives to cash app, including options for @SkiPro and other members:

- https://www.bitcoinmagazinepro.com/blog/12-great-apps-like-cash-app-for-bitcoin-buyers-traders/
- https://wise.com/gb/blog/cash-app-alternatives-uk

^ It looks like very minimal crypto knowledge is needed to use many of these sites. If you can use online banking to send money to other bank accounts, you can send crypto to other addresses using these kind of commercial applications.

More info on using BTC thanks to @chance vought:
chance vought said:
Bitcoin Lightning offers very good privacy for the sender. Not much for the recipient (the final forwarding node to the recipient can see the final destination of the funds). For most uses it is cheaper than Monero and just as private (except for the recipient).

From simple to complex:

Bitcoin Lightning is the way to go, but it takes a few more steps than a simple on-chain transaction. Using a computer, I would suggest Alby https://getalby.com/

On mobile, a good one is Strike app (though not available in all countries, you link your bank account ACH and can send via lightning either BTC or fiat instantly.) https://strike.me/

Phoenix wallet is good if you already have BTC and want self-custody (though you will have to side-load it in the US, it is being removed from app stores after the Samurai fiasco).

If you run your own lightning node or know someone who does, Blue Wallet is what I use for that (they used to offer custodial wallets but now only self-hosted nodes are supported).

Unfortunately, none of it is as simple as sending on chain, but once you do it, it becomes easy.

Alby supports the Lightning Address, which allows a permanent "address" to receive lightning payments to (like for donations). Normal lightning payments require creating an "invoice" for a specific amount, but the Lightning Address functions more like on chain BTC address in that it never expires.
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On-chain BTC transactions range from $1-$30, where lightning is $.001 - $1, depending on the amount of the transaction, whether you are using your own node, etc.
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Donating via Monero - Info and Procedures

SkiPro said:
I would like to donate but I don't know how to do this crypto stuff. Is there any other way?
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Below is a step-by-step procedure that is based around using either of these sites to donate Monero (XMR). You can skip to Step 2 for the basic procedure if you don't want to use additional security protocols.

- https://changenow.io/buy/monero
- https://changelly.com/buy-crypto

I recommend members consider setting up a Monero wallet for additional security via https://wallet.mymonero.com/ or a tested alternative (see step 1 below), however this isn't technically required to make donations.

Side notes:
  • Monero is far less available than BTC, although there are numerous exchanges such as the above, fixed float [https://ff.io], or others where you can buy XMR directly and/or swap BTC (or an alt-coins) for XMR.
  • Each additional transfer and swap has a trade-off: more transfers and swaps add more security but incur more fees.
  • If you're going to buy BTC or an alt-coin then swap it for XMR, consider (a) comparing which exchange has the best rate (b) buying an established coin with a low transaction fee.
    [https://cryptonews.com/cryptocurrency/crypto-with-lowest-fees] and (c) ensure you quickly action the transactions to avoid losses in value due to sudden price drops.
STEP 1

Step 1 (optional): Create a Monero wallet - this is for extra privacy, so the Monero merchant cannot connect your card payment to the Christ is King Monero address.

1) Go to the website: https://wallet.mymonero.com/

2) Press [Create new wallet]


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3) Select [GOT IT] and press [Next]


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4) Save the mnemonic (list of word like a password used to access your Monero wallet)


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5) Verify the first several words of the mnemonic and press [Confirm]


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6) After a short time, your wallet will be created. Click on [My Monero Wallet]


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7) Your Monero wallet address is listed. Press [COPY] to save it to your clipboard.

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STEP 2

Step 2 (required) - Buy Monero

1) Go to the ChangeNOW site - https://changenow.io/buy/monero

2) Enter the amount of currency you'd like to purchase Monero with. In this case $160 USD.


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3) Enter the address you'd like to send Monero to in the [Recipient Wallet] field. If you created your own wallet to increase privacy, as in the above step, that will be the address you received in step 1, section 7. If you are sending direct to the Christ is King Monero address. It is: [SNIPPED; refer to post from Valentine here]. Ensure Guardarian is selected at the bottom. Notice the large difference in price. Then press [Next]


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4) Accept the terms and press [Confirm]


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5) Select your payment method (Visa & MasterCard in this case), accept the terms, and press [Continue]


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6) Proceed to enter your payment details. Once complete we should receive the Monero within several minutes
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Source:
https://christisking.cc/threads/donations.414/#post-7590 | Credit @Cynllo.

Alternative site: Changelly.com
[Note. Images not copied from DS source noted in OP]

Like ChangeNow.io, Changelly.com allows you to buy Bitcoin with a credit card, and then allows you to quickly switch your Bitcoin for Monero. I don’t think Changelly is as good as ChangeNow, but Changelly has been around the longest.

With this site, you do have to confirm an email to make an exchange (at least in some countries), but it does not require any identifying information, and a throwaway email is fine. So, make a quick account and confirm the email address.

Then, on the front page of the site, you just line up Bitcoin and Monero in the box, and enter the amount of Bitcoin you want to send. Click “exchange now.”

Then you come to the next screen, where your desired transaction is confirmed, and you will be asked to enter your Monero wallet address.
Then, you will be asked to confirm the transaction.

After confirming, you will be given an address to which to send your Bitcoin, which is being transformed into Monero.

Send the correct amount of Bitcoin to that address, and in a few minutes, you will receive your Monero at the recipient address
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I hope this helps someone to make a donation to CIK.
 
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Steady Hands said:
Additionally, it seems as if the 'Philanthropist' tag been retired?

I would suggest reinstating this tag, as it can function first as a social incentive for contributing, and second, as a point of insight about other members' involvement in CIK. Although my donations have been modest, perhaps a 'Star Philanthropist' tag could also be given to those who donate, say, more than 10% of the annual goal.
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No the tag has not been retired, why, did you lose the tag? How is that even possible?
 
Samseau said:
No the tag has not been retired, why, did you lose the tag? How is that even possible?
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Perhaps the wording I used wasn't precise enough. It's not that I or others lost the tag - rather, members such as @FrancisK and myself who donated after the server/admin change didn't get it.
 
Steady Hands said:
Perhaps the wording I used wasn't precise enough. It's not that I or others lost the tag - rather, members such as @FrancisK and myself who donated after the server/admin change didn't get it.
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Apologies this slipped my mind, that's been rectified. If anyone else is missing Philanthropist title then send me a DM with your transaction ID and I'll get it added.

Steady Hands said:
Is there a straightforward way to see how much has been donated towards the goal for site maintenance on an annual basis?

Maybe you could consider adding a progress bar at the top of this thread updated monthly or so, combined with a simple post here. I think this promotes some transparency into CIK operations and serves as an ongoing reminder and encouragement for members to donate.
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That sounds like a good idea, @Soli (can't seem to tag you anymore) if we can figure out the technical side of this then this would be good to implement.

SkiPro said:
I would like to donate but I don't know how to do this crypto stuff. Is there any other way?
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Unfortunately no not at this stage. The simplest method I can recommend is setting up a Coinbase account, buying some BTC via bank card there, then using the interface to send directly. The Cash app recommended above also sounds pretty simple.
 
magoo said:
I just need a place to put my visa number. Or a bank account to transfer. Have no idea how btc works. And honestly don´t want to know.

Can´t this place sell bibles and croces online or any other merchandise. And with the margins sustain the forum?
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Do they have CashApp in France? It's the same as just putting in your visa number with cash app.

Funny I used to sell religious merchandise way way back in the day, before the market was flooded with dollar store stuff from china.
 
I dont like anything related to crypto. I think it´s all shit.

There are some telegram channels which sell apparel. And they are far from being politically correct.

Western Aesthetics – Western Aesthetics was created with the goal of promoting Western Aesthetics, History, Art and Culture.

www.westernaesthetics.org www.westernaesthetics.org

One thing I would like to buy would be a calendar of christian relevant events. Like now with Lent. And christian obligations to follow. With a magnet on it so I can pin it in the fridge. Nice paintings or music with or comedy with christian content. Etc. Not Ned Flanders shit.
 
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