Donations for site hosting now open

[Valentine]

Hello all, we're collecting donations once again for our ongoing site hosting. This will cover the cost of servers, security infrastructure and software we depend on.

If our surplus becomes large in the future we may consider allocating some funds to further reinvestment in site growth such as a marketing budget, but any decisions like that will only be taken after polling the membership and ideas finalised by the leadership team. For now we just want to ensure we have enough funds to keep this site going for years to come.

Thank you for every donation, big or small, as well as to all the members of our site who make this the great place that it is.

Cryptocurrency wallet addresses:
XMR (Monero): 82a6MKAjrg5hFF7aQvz7LRfpJiUWhLztmRKj1y7ztZUtMYQHNX3d2v3hkWDhPPe381UzQGuBSi836cLcYXuvSHKN2wxtB6y
BTC (Bitcoin): bc1q7yy4qe69qp9lpddv8v5v03v36g4y8zz3crfdlx
ETH (Ethereum): 0x11dA6F01B91079628a02C2Fc09d9458787a146e9

As for how to send cryptocurrency, refer to Daily Stormer's great guide for how to buy and send Monero.

For BTC and ETH specifically most of the info is relevant but the steps are simpler - you'll want to purchase BTC or ETH from an exchange like Kraken, Coinbase, CashApp or Binance. From there you can send it directly to our appropriate wallet. Our wallet addresses are rotated periodically to ensure that they will not cause your accounts to be flagged by sending directly from exchange to them.

We prefer XMR as that's the currency we use to pay for our hosting, but we're fine with taking the other currencies too as we can exchange them to XMR later ourselves and they offer a simpler way to donate for most people.

Thanks all and may God bless you.

 

[FrancisK]

Brother what would you guys consider a solid helpful donation amount?

 

[Valentine]

Brother what would you guys consider a solid helpful donation amount?

Any amount is helpful honestly, we don't want to place a burden on individual members and hope that many will donate to keep the site they love running. If it helps knowing then our costs are currently ~$1000/year at the moment for our bulletproof hosting setup.

 

[Based_Christian_Dude]

For BTC and ETH specifically most of the info is relevant but the steps are simpler - you'll want to purchase BTC or ETH from an exchange like Kraken, Coinbase, CashApp or Binance. From there you can send it directly to our appropriate wallet. Our wallet addresses are rotated periodically to ensure that they will not cause your accounts to be flagged by sending directly from exchange to them.

With AI Large Language Models continuously scanning the permanent blockchain, I think it's not a good idea to encourage donation on transparent KYC cryptos. It's better if everyone here swap their transparent crypto to XMR before donating. There's plenty swaps and exchanges that allow such trades.

 

[Valentine]

With AI Large Language Models continuously scanning the permanent blockchain, I think it's not a good idea to encourage donation on transparent KYC cryptos. It's better if everyone here swap their transparent crypto to XMR before donating. There's plenty swaps and exchanges that allow such trades.

LLMs don't enable significantly greater blockchain observation than was present before. There's a large number of steps that would have to take place before non-XMR donations would become a risk:

• First is CIK a site of interest? Maybe, but doubtful since we have a much smaller, less extremist, more religious and more private presence than RVF did.
• Is there an agent or team assigned to peruse this site regularly? There are many forums, blog comment sections, chat groups, social media, etc online let alone offline, how much time is there really to dedicate to observing our particular website? Even if this is automated to a degree it's a significant engineering effort on an ongoing basis, and the data would need analysing, summarising and reporting on to be of any use. Bureaucracy in government leads to endless long meetings, are we likely to be the focus of multiple of these? There are many, many higher priority groups to investigate.
• If our wallet addresses are identified, what's the likelihood they would care? If in the case they do, they would need to have legal authority to demand exchanges provide KYC data on customers who use the exchange to send to our wallets. It's extremely unlikely they'd be able to get a court order for this as there's no terrorist or illegal activities occurring on our site.
• Even in the worst case scenario a law enforcement agency obtained KYC data they can't do anything with it because no crimes have been committed.

We're serious about the INFOSEC of ourselves and our members, and the risk analysis shows that it's extremely unlikely to be a concern. Maybe if we were as high profile and infamous as the Daily Stormer it'd be worth going XMR-only, but for now that's not the case so I think this is an overblown concern.

You're free to only use XMR yourselves if this doesn't fit for your threat model. And we'll evaluate the risk regularly to decide if we should go XMR-only in the future.

 

[Based_Christian_Dude]

LLMs don't enable significantly greater blockchain observation than was present before. There's a large number of steps that would have to take place before non-XMR donations would become a risk:

• First is CIK a site of interest? Maybe, but doubtful since we have a much smaller, less extremist, more religious and more private presence than RVF did.
• Is there an agent or team assigned to peruse this site regularly? There are many forums, blog comment sections, chat groups, social media, etc online let alone offline, how much time is there really to dedicate to observing our particular website? Even if this is automated to a degree it's a significant engineering effort on an ongoing basis, and the data would need analysing, summarising and reporting on to be of any use. Bureaucracy in government leads to endless long meetings, are we likely to be the focus of multiple of these? There are many, many higher priority groups to investigate.
• If our wallet addresses are identified, what's the likelihood they would care? If in the case they do, they would need to have legal authority to demand exchanges provide KYC data on customers who use the exchange to send to our wallets. It's extremely unlikely they'd be able to get a court order for this as there's no terrorist or illegal activities occurring on our site.
• Even in the worst case scenario a law enforcement agency obtained KYC data they can't do anything with it because no crimes have been committed.

We're serious about the INFOSEC of ourselves and our members, and the risk analysis shows that it's extremely unlikely to be a concern. Maybe if we were as high profile and infamous as the Daily Stormer it'd be worth going XMR-only, but for now that's not the case so I think this is an overblown concern.

You're free to only use XMR yourselves if this doesn't fit for your threat model. And we'll evaluate the risk regularly to decide if we should go XMR-only in the future.

Yes, but I'm talking about the future as well; remember, we now live in a worldwide dystopia and the western world has clearly demonstrated banana republican values, e.g. Roger Ver did everything "legally" when renouncing US citizenship and yet look what happened years later.