Donald Trump: Criticism & Debate Thread

It_Is_My_Time said:
Scott Ritter is not a fan of Trump. But Scott does point out that Trump did a lot more to cause the war in Ukraine than I had previously realized. He sure did nothing to put the flames out between 2017 and 2021, and despite Con Inc. claiming the war would have never happened if Trump won in 2020, Putin himself has said it didn't matter.

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Meh, Ritter I dunno man.

Its really hard to trust a guy who's plead to masterbating in front of what he presumed to be a 15 year old after a decade previously being charged for trying to solicit sex with 16 year old.

All while having daughters the same age as the presumed girl he was masterbating in front of.

If there's any carpet bombs here it's what Ritter did to his own integrity by being a creep.

www.bbc.com

Ex-UN inspector Scott Ritter guilty in sex chat case

Former UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter is found guilty of unlawful contact with a minor following an online sex sting operation.
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Feels like the old ruskies got some Compromat on him.
 
Get2choppaaa said:
Meh, Ritter I dunno man.

Its really hard to trust a guy who's plead to masterbating in front of what he presumed to be a 15 year old after a decade previously being charged for trying to solicit sex with 16 year old.

All while having daughters the same age as the presumed girl he was masterbating in front of.

If there's any carpet bombs here it's what Ritter did to his own integrity by being a creep.

www.bbc.com

Ex-UN inspector Scott Ritter guilty in sex chat case

Former UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter is found guilty of unlawful contact with a minor following an online sex sting operation.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

Feels like the old ruskies got some Compromat on him.
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Well, did Ukraine build up in Trump's first term or not? Yes they did, with our tax money.
Did Ukraine fund the Azov Battalion, with our tax money, and torture and kill ethnic Russians during Trump's first term? Yes they did.
Is the war in Ukraine still needlessly being fought, with our tax money, supporting a disgusting criminal like Zelinsky now over 100 days into Trumps term? Yes it is.

Trump looks really bad in this. Not that I care, unless he actually gets something done, and I doubt he does, this thing is going to turn on him and Con Inc. so fast their heads will spin. That is just history repeating itself, he better get busy doing something worthwhile.

Personally, I hope and expect Trump's remaining 3 years and 8 months to be a disappointment, because this time around the elites can't fire up the WPA and keep young men from turning to the only fix, Fascism. They were able to stop the rise of Fascism in the USA in the 1930's with the WPA. They don't have the money or social structure to do it this time around.
 
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It_Is_My_Time said:
Well, did Ukraine build up in Trump's first term or not? Yes they did, with our tax money.
Did Ukraine fund the Azov Battalion, with our tax money, and torture and kill ethnic Russians during Trump's first term? Yes they did.
Is the war in Ukraine still needlessly being fought, with our tax money, supporting a disgusting criminal like Zelinsky now over 100 days into Trumps term? Yes it is.
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You mean the only guys whose made any attempts whatsoever to reconcile the two sides?
It_Is_My_Time said:
Trump looks really bad in this. Not that I care, unless he actually gets something done, and I doubt he does, this thing is going to turn on him and Con Inc. so fast their heads will spin. That is just history repeating itself, he better get busy doing something worthwhile.
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Most people, including myself do not agree here.

Trump tried to get to the bottom of this and was impeached over looking into all this.

It's pretty interesting to watch Cherry picking live and see a narrative crafted.

But pissing on my leg and telling me it's raining is still just that.

And again... Scott Ritter is a creep.

Trump's play now is for peace brokering with US economic ties joining both countries.

WE used to do a lot of business in Russia with big oil and I would expect that to come back after this gets worked out.
 
It_Is_My_Time said:
Well, did Ukraine build up in Trump's first term or not? Yes they did, with our tax money.
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Didn't Trumps generals commit treason by lying to him about what they were doing and withholding information from him?

We have proof of them literally admitting so. I think judging him on that is strange. How could he stop it if he didn't know and trusted people who were stabbing him in the back to tell him?
 
Get2choppaaa said:
You mean the only guys whose made any attempts whatsoever to reconcile the two sides?

Most people, including myself do not agree here.

Trump tried to get to the bottom of this and was impeached over looking into all this.

It's pretty interesting to watch Cherry picking live and see a narrative crafted.

But pissing on my leg and telling me it's raining is still just that.

And again... Scott Ritter is a creep.
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There is legit reconciliation, which is given Putin what he wants, and there is insulting reconciliation, which looks more like a staged "well, we tried". Putin can keep bleeding us dry, he knows he is winning both the real war, the war of attrition, and the war for the minds of the people in the west. The longer it goes, the more he takes in all categories.

Most people are hurting and hurting very badly, just as they were under Biden. Either Trump's team fixes this, and I don't think they will, or they don't, and then all bets are off. I imagine a real Fascist movement will come soon after, that is what has always happened historically.
 
Giordano Bruno said:
Didn't Trumps generals commit treason by lying to him about what they were doing and withholding information from him?

We have proof of them literally admitting so. I think judging him on that is strange. How could he stop it if he didn't know and trusted people who were stabbing him in the back to tell him?
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Then Trump must fix it. The clock is ticking.
 
It_Is_My_Time said:
There is legit reconciliation, which is given Putin what he wants, and there is insulting reconciliation, which looks more like a staged "well, we tried". Putin can keep bleeding us dry, he knows he is winning both the real war, the war of attrition, and the war for the minds of the people in the west. The longer it goes, the more he takes in all categories.

Most people are hurting and hurting very badly, just as they were under Biden. Either Trump's team fixes this, and I don't think they will, or they don't, and then all bets are off. I imagine a real Fascist movement will come soon after, that is what has always happened historically.
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I don't know that I'm 100 percent behind the Putin is winning all the war.

They have given up ground back Ukraine in several of the territories.

I don't believe anything Scott Ritter has said since he predicted the war would be over many times by now.
 
Things are far too dire, too many young men have already given up, we are falling behind BRICS every day, and life in this country is becoming increasing disgusting. The little showman ship games played in the first term are not going to cut it. We are so far beyond 2017, so if he doesn't start to actually get something done, and soon, the entire system is going to crash down and potentially under his watch.

 
It_Is_My_Time said:
Things are far too dire, too many young men have already given up, we are falling behind BRICS every day, and life in this country is becoming increasing disgusting. The little showman ship games played in the first term are not going to cut it. We are so far beyond 2017, so if he doesn't start to actually get something done, and soon, the entire system is going to crash down and potentially under his watch.

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Did you see the notice of over 200 pedophiles being arrested yesterday? Or just here to doom post your trash as usual?
 
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