Is Voting Worth It?
- Thread starter The Penitent Man
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I don't hate the concept of voting. I hate the fact that America's political system has long been hijacked by the fake two-party system.
Monarchies were absolute nightmares. How would you like to be executed by some inbred moron who's only in the chair because of royal bloodlines and nepotism? Even at the time of America's founding, the only part of the British "monarchy" that anybody even liked were the Federalist expressions of the government anyway. Fascism makes a much stronger case. There's a reason that it's so persecuted by TPTB.
The sad fact is there is no system or institution that is beyond the power of human sin to corrupt and subvert. Everything can be gamed. America's system was among the best ever, but it's been gamed and hijacked by the political parties (just as some of the Founders feared). That said, fake opposition is not unique to federalism or democracy. You could have a one party state and still get played by controlled opposition.
Many parties is theoretically better, I'm not sure, In Europe there may be 15 parties to vote for, and the choice is still between communists and patriots, they cooperate and the parliamentary mechanics lead to similar outcomes from country to country, you label each of the movements as either/or, and draw the dividing line as if there were only two parties. It's effectively the same. Republicans span from libertarians to neocons, Democrats from Bolsheviks to social democrats, people vote for individuals who are for sale if they have no principles. European MPs may be cheaper than their American colleagues.
Voting rights should be restricted, maybe the more in taxes you pay, the more weight your vote carries. Anybody who works, or does most of his business with the government should be prohibited from voting, cops and soldiers included. Also Capitalism/economic freedom should be for flesh and bone humans, not for trusts, LLCs, Corps, etc. Shared ownership is achievable without using invented ethereal, intangible entities that hide behind layers of legal fortified lines.
Voting rights should be restricted, maybe the more in taxes you pay, the more weight your vote carries. Anybody who works, or does most of his business with the government should be prohibited from voting, cops and soldiers included. Also Capitalism/economic freedom should be for flesh and bone humans, not for trusts, LLCs, Corps, etc. Shared ownership is achievable without using invented ethereal, intangible entities that hide behind layers of legal fortified lines.
The deal with monarchy is that someone is accountable. Our system is extremely removed from being able to hold a leader personally accountable. If we are upset the blame is simply shifted back to us: We voted for it. Not to mention the people holding the actual power are not even the politicians that provide us with the consumable product but are people hidden, purposely, within/above the system.
And, implicit to our current mindset is "a belief in a system". We have no trust in a person. We have statements like "absolute power corrupts absolutely" but is that actually always true? I say: no, there are reasons we have stories like King Arthur. But, after saying all this, I think our society/culture is extremely far removed from being able to produce men with virtue like that and accept men like that as leaders. The horrific monarchs we often criticize in history had already diminished in virtue and sold themselves out to the same hidden class that holds the power today. We are too far gone. There is a general trend in history and it is degradation. All these revolutions were calculated to get is to where we are today. So, to me it's best to work with, and stick to, whatever is seen as the traditional way of doing things in our time. Work against the revolution mindset. Which is kind of funny because part of what is traditional now is being proud of a revolution (American one) but I'll do it for the sake of the good intents and sacrifices of the good men of our past.
And, implicit to our current mindset is "a belief in a system". We have no trust in a person. We have statements like "absolute power corrupts absolutely" but is that actually always true? I say: no, there are reasons we have stories like King Arthur. But, after saying all this, I think our society/culture is extremely far removed from being able to produce men with virtue like that and accept men like that as leaders. The horrific monarchs we often criticize in history had already diminished in virtue and sold themselves out to the same hidden class that holds the power today. We are too far gone. There is a general trend in history and it is degradation. All these revolutions were calculated to get is to where we are today. So, to me it's best to work with, and stick to, whatever is seen as the traditional way of doing things in our time. Work against the revolution mindset. Which is kind of funny because part of what is traditional now is being proud of a revolution (American one) but I'll do it for the sake of the good intents and sacrifices of the good men of our past.
This was how it used to be. One of the great revisionist lies of our time is that America was founded as a democracy. People are so ignorant of their own history that I doubt they could even tell the difference between a federal republic and a pure democracy. As we continue to degrade into a democracy, the differences between the states become increasingly less meaningful. Originally, only land holders could vote. Now, the propagandists, revisionists, and news networks keep pushing the idea that "everybody has the right to vote."
Other way around. The only way to hold a king accountable was by putting his head on a pike, i.e. revolution. Kings would hold the people accountable, usually in the form of massacres by the thousands.
Your post explains exactly why fascism, and if I hear another conservative call a leftist a "fascist", I might lose it, was created.
Fascism's aim is to solve this issue of monarchy by having a hierarchy group of men, who have proven themselves through service and duty, to lead society. These men also have the most at stake, meaning they are going to have more desire to do what is right by the country and people for their own benefit.
Since outright slavery has been discredited, democracy is the only remaining rationale for state compulsion that most people will accept. Democracy has proven only that the best way to gain power over people is to assure the people that they are ruling themselves. Once they believe that, they make wonderfully submissive slaves.
- Joseph Sobran - "The Myth of Limited Government"
- Joseph Sobran - "The Myth of Limited Government"
The RCC has the Pope and his senior cardinals advising him, he has the last word but takes their advice into account, the Holy Synod of the ROC, or the elder councils of Protestant churches. Experienced, older men make the decisions.
No, it doesn't sound dumb at all. What is dumb is thinking that waiting in line for 15 minutes, once a year, to vote for a guy that is bought and paid for by the satanic elites, in a country run by satanic elites, is going to save the country. "Well, it will buy us more time!" is the response. Will it? Of course not, their plan is their plan, and unless they are removed from power, which will not be done by voting for one of their puppets, this will not change. They ebb and flow it, as needed, but rest assured, they will get what they need, as they need it, from their puppets.
I don't know what country you are located in, or what age range you are, so I cannot offer you advice. But if you think my line of thinking is going to disappear, you will be very sadly disappointed. And if it affects your life, to have to read these comments, I suggest you get offline, because it is only going to grow and spread far and wide over the next year.
I have never felt more White PIlled than I do right now. Young men are waking up in droves and talking, which I am doing right here and right now. The west is losing across the globe. Blue pill normies are waking up to the realities we face. 2026 is going to be an amazing year of growth.
GrecoRoman
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Ok then what are you going to do about it besides nonstop posting online? I don’t share the view at all. The only people that think like this are those that spend all day online reading tweets. I live in the US and my only complaint mainly is the female situation because most women have become like prostitutes. Besides that, despite the problems in this country I live quite well and have done well for myself despite the ‘satanic elites’. You either adapt and become anti-fragile or get screwed. You either take action by waking more people up or complain about our leaders.
Think the economy and hyperinflation are going to wipe us out? Buy BTC and gold.
Think the US is going to collapse? Then take your money elsewhere and leave.
Think China will rule the world? Learn Mandarin and move there.
All of these things are more productive than posting 100,000 words about how Trump isn’t doing what you want or voting is meaningless.
GrecoRoman
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It’s good you’re doing all this stuff.
Here’s my point to put it succinctly and the reason I’m posting like this.
What’s the reason that for the most part conservatives have conserved nothing and tend to lose generation after generation? Things keep moving towards the libtards no matter what happens? The topic is complex and there are several reasons both material and spiritual some of which are not in our control.
What I’ve observed in my life however is a big reason is that conservatives are too passive. They want to be left alone and live their lives. They are high on the complaining and negativity spectrum and low on the action and making things happen spectrum. Or when they do try to ‘make things happen’ they choose idiotic paths like forming violent groups that are infiltrated or directed by the Feds. Or they sit around and think they can’t do anything and do nothing.
The liberals however take over institutions, universities, mentor their own, and help each other gain positions of power all over society. In fact, the Indians and Jews do this too. All the while conservatives mostly sit around and quibble or focus on side issues and continue to lose.
So my point is some type of action even if small can have a big effect and it’s vastly superior to doing nothing. People underestimate the power they have to make changes.
The reason is much more simple. The same people own both parties and have done these same tricks for thousands of years. There are great podcasts that go into deep detail on it. What are experiencing right now in the USA is far from new, it is just a repeat of the same playbook used by the same people for thousands of years.
Before Trump, Roy Cohn had a man named Joseph McCarthy, who was labeled as a super bad fascist, while throwing the scent off of the bankers and onto their communist puppets in Hollywood. You can find this example, over and over again, throughout history.
Conservative voters on the other hand are lead by conservative news, blaming the 'Demonrats" and "free market capitalism" which are both paths to nowhere, draining their energy into the abyss. They are good people, who are misled, and end up unhappy because they work endless hours to pay for things they disagree with, but they don't see another path forward.
Eventually the system will collapse, probably not too far off either, but who knows for sure. When it does, either good men will pick up the mantel and do all the hard work needed to kick the third worlders out and rebuild from the ground up, or they will not. If not, then it will be China's world.
I hate this man, but he is accidentally revealing voting is a wasted effort. Trump really messed this one up, he exposed too much of what a fraud he and voting really is.
The reason is more simple.
Women having the right to vote, and the vote being rigged:
