Donald Trump: Criticism & Debate Thread



I guess good news but we’ve been burned and duped too much. What many of us are looking for is strong immigration policy that is effective in the long run.

The excuses need to completely stop.

First it was we don’t have the funds! Then the big bill gave ICE billions.

Then it was ICE isn’t arresting enough, so they put some border patrol in charge. What has happened? Has it been effective? These things take time but are we hitting the millions of deportations in a year? Or are they just padding numbers with the ones they claim to self deport?

Then it was H1B fees only for Trump to say we need them and there are exemptions because Americans don’t have the talent.

Now it’s this, in before a judge blocks it and nothing ends up happening.

Come on, we need to permanently end, not pause migration from almost all countries not just the ‘third world’
 

Unfortunately it is another lie. Trump
Is not going to do any of those things. He keeps flip flopping which is it we need H1B visas because of a lack of talent or we need to deport third world people? He keeps changing his tune. In any case even if he wanted to do all those things he doesn’t have the power or support in the senate or legal system etc to actually get any of that stuff done. All just empty promises. I know nobody on this forum is dumb enough to believe what he is saying.
 
I don't think they think white people built America. I think they believe (and I'm creating this out of whole cloth, just theorizing) central banks and WW2 created the wealthy America the boomers got to enjoy. They probably think, with their banking power it doesn't matter what race is involved, because look at how comfortable the wealthy are in third world countries, the true elite have always been comfortable and capable of fleeing to wherever they want. They will keep sucking America dry as much as they can for as long as they can, establish themselves in their little elite enclaves, and maybe move to countries they plan on enriching, like India, and live like kings there where there are no pesky rights anyone pretends exist.
 
Unfortunately it is another lie. Trump
Is not going to do any of those things. He keeps flip flopping which is it we need H1B visas because of a lack of talent or we need to deport third world people? He keeps changing his tune. In any case even if he wanted to do all those things he doesn’t have the power or support in the senate or legal system etc to actually get any of that stuff done. All just empty promises. I know nobody on this forum is dumb enough to believe what he is saying.
Trump will turn a blind eye to fact that India is 3rd world because they fit his “ provide an asset” to improving the talent base of our tech and medical sectors in US.
 
I don't think they think white people built America. I think they believe (and I'm creating this out of whole cloth, just theorizing) central banks and WW2 created the wealthy America the boomers got to enjoy. They probably think, with their banking power it doesn't matter what race is involved, because look at how comfortable the wealthy are in third world countries, the true elite have always been comfortable and capable of fleeing to wherever they want. They will keep sucking America dry as much as they can for as long as they can, establish themselves in their little elite enclaves, and maybe move to countries they plan on enriching, like India, and live like kings there where there are no pesky rights anyone pretends exist.

Well let them move to India already instead of moving India in to our countries.
 
I don't think they think white people built America. I think they believe (and I'm creating this out of whole cloth, just theorizing) central banks and WW2 created the wealthy America the boomers got to enjoy. They probably think, with their banking power it doesn't matter what race is involved, because look at how comfortable the wealthy are in third world countries, the true elite have always been comfortable and capable of fleeing to wherever they want. They will keep sucking America dry as much as they can for as long as they can, establish themselves in their little elite enclaves, and maybe move to countries they plan on enriching, like India, and live like kings there where there are no pesky rights anyone pretends exist.
Thus the Rootless Cosmopolitan Elite.

We are going to have to figure out if we want to live in a stable society solidified in blood or culture or a Comfortable Cosmopolitan Bread & Circus one where you are eventually replaced.

I mean we may have to forgo constant New Sh** or Cool looking Technology for that Stability on the occassion.

The problem is...this Rootless Elite evidently were slapped down from time to time throughout history for Christian European to flourish...so maybe that needs to happen again. Because I believe realistically God and him alone will have to destroy that Satanic Group once for all since Man is easily tempted by Earthly Power.
 
So what is the need for more Indians exactly?
Trump kept saying all along, right after he got elected too: "We will need a lot of people coming here ", to the United States that is.
He is dreaming those monster overbloated AI projects (that cost 100x more than they cost China but do not have better performance, just a way to steal more money) and for this, corporations will want more and more H1Bs too.
 
So what's the need for importing street shitters then big boy?

Kalergi plan maybe?
Perhaps.
But more simple explanation is corporations wanting cheaper and captive workforce who will not complain about labor conditions, like long working hours, being called to meetings and support calls outside work hours, etc. H1B worker is dependent on hiring company allowing them to get permanent residency after some years, they are captive labor and can not complain.
 
I don't think they think white people built America. I think they believe (and I'm creating this out of whole cloth, just theorizing) central banks and WW2 created the wealthy America the boomers got to enjoy. They probably think, with their banking power it doesn't matter what race is involved, because look at how comfortable the wealthy are in third world countries, the true elite have always been comfortable and capable of fleeing to wherever they want. They will keep sucking America dry as much as they can for as long as they can, establish themselves in their little elite enclaves, and maybe move to countries they plan on enriching, like India, and live like kings there where there are no pesky rights anyone pretends exist.
The America of the middle class bloom had been allowed to come to exist only because of major pro-labor pushback starting in the 1930, after the Great Depression in America and other events outside of it. From USSR to National Socialists in Germany, left and pro-labor movements had become very popular and became a real threat to corporate/banking elites, which had caused them to give major concessions and share wealth. Things like SSA pensions were created and corporate profits had been shared with the public, creating strong middle class and social programs.

None of it happened out of anyone's "benevolence", good will or "sense of brotherhood", it was pure fear of revolutions or stuff like electing national socialists. These victories of the common man had began to vane around 1970s and the movement had been in the opposite direction ever since, the corporate-banking elites has been pulling the blanket back, this is when real wages began to decline and when income inequality started to increase again instead of decreasing (it had been decreasing since late 1930s earlier).

Elites will be very comfortable in third world countries for sure (until the revolutions sweep them away but they hope that technocracy can prevent this). Once you understand that in America - and not just in America but anywhere in that general system - a human is merely a resource for extracting profit, everything becomes very clear and kind of predictable.
That Normal Rockwell world is long gone now.

To elaborate further, the stage of European settlers needed to populate, clear, develop the land in North America is long over, there was massive profiting off resource exploration at that time, land, furs, gold, forests, then oil, gas, coal, other resources being discovered and extracted, giving massive profit margins (research, even most fur traders of the old days were corporate slaves,by the way, they did not own their outfits and were in debt to the fur trading companies).

This resource market is now fully saturated, no new exciting stuff coming, no superprofits. May be a lithium mine here and there, that's it. Profits stagnate. New resource to exploit is AI, internet and computers earlier since the 90s. Now tell me why stable, thoroughly middle class Euro population out of old Norman Rockwell painting picture is needed here? It is not. Just like they put masks on while USD was devalued twice, they will do what the are told to do from then on. No one owes anyone loyalty, or anything else, in this kind of world where only profit matters. My last paragraph describes what goes through Trump's and Miller's minds daily, by the way :D
 
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I agree there is a blackpilling and sheer Economic reality of living in this world of finite resources, but the ease of Creating Capital out of thin air seems to exacerbate the Devaulation of Sustainable Profit over time. That is what the Modern Corporate Judeo-Masonic World is based on. It's been pedal to the metal with constant digital credit expansion to help Exploit the masses and create a burned-out Economic order where nobody knows true value of goods or services. Nobody wanted a clearing, more simply to take a haircut. Thus the Hellish inflated world we live in. Not even mentioning the Unnatural influx of Non Americans to skew labor value and tap into an already stressed safety net system, SSI, Medical Welfare.

I really think its just a group of folks that think should live high on the hog and use the Over Finacialized System of Credit Expansion to insulate themselves. I mean, we didn't get to see Hitler's (Labor-Sustainable Production) based Economy over several decades to compare to a Boom-Bust Economy as our own.

Grim reality for sure especially when you aren't just poor, but poor in Unnatural Dystopian communities.
 
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