Donald Trump: Criticism & Debate Thread

[It_Is_My_Time]

One marked difference in this second term is how little you see leftists screeching over Trump. In the first term, you couldn't get away from it. This time? Crickets.

Most Trump supporters during the first term couldn't tell you what he was actually accomplishing but he made leftists cry so he was alright in their book. This time you don't even get liberal tears as a consolation prize. Now I'm seeing people burning their MAGA hats on Twitter instead.

Yes, things are so much worse now in a post-covid world, that empty bluster doesn't work any longer. And very few buy into the "white hats" nonsense as well. They either want results, they want top officials arrested and put into prison, they want wealth extracted from Wall Street and put back into the middle class, they want H-1B visa to be destroyed for good, they want legal immigration put to a stop and illegals punished along with those who hired them. And anything short of this is going to be seen as such a big failure that they no longer believe anyone in any party and will either shrug as it collapses or form their own resistance to it.

Russia/China/Iran are playing us like a fiddle, dragging us down and using our own arrogance as their greatest weapon against us. And our satanic elites have no answer for it other than to print money.

 

[RedLagoon]

True, so we have 3 and 1/2 years for these things to for real tangible change. He didn't accomplish it in his first four years, so he has a big mountain to climb. And this goes above Trump, this goes to his puppet masters. If they don't pull a 180, stop flooding the west with third worlders, stop buying up homes, stop their successful destruction of the middle class, then it is over for the west.

Trump doesn't have the power to stop them, maybe the ability to persuade them, but this is unlikely. And if Trump is unable to change direction on these very big issues, and not some small measure or tough talk, then the number of young people who no longer believe in voting or trust this system is going to increase 10-fold. This will be the beginning of the end for the west, as young people will never buy into this system again or sell it to the next generations. No one will fight for it, no one will sacrifice for it, and we will just fall further and further behind BRICS as time moves forward.

I don't expect Trump to change any of it, if the unlikely event that he is able to do so occurs, I will celebrate it. I, along with many other red-pilled men, are ready to welcome millions of normies into the red-pill world and to shrug as it collapses around us.

Half the wage for you job seekers brahs.

At least you got guns and a strong community which is lacking everywhere else in the West.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Half the wage for you job seekers brahs.

At least you got guns and a strong community which is lacking everywhere else in the West.

Guns haven't done any good yet, and the places of "community" are being targeted and destroyed by our govt. with third world immigration as well (rural areas).

Their problem is that most young people both have no future in this system and see the system as rigged and the previous release valve of voting is being destroyed. I don't know how they contain all these people and continue to distract them after they have seen behind the curtain. And this is a very good thing.

 

[Острог]

Guns haven't done any good yet, and the places of "community" are being targeted and destroyed by our govt. with third world immigration as well (rural areas).

Their problem is that most young people both have no future in this system and see the system as rigged and the previous release valve of voting is being destroyed. I don't know how they contain all these people and continue to distract them after they have seen behind the curtain. And this is a very good thing.

They hope to pin them with the next coof, economic crisis, war and digital control grid. It's their only chance.

 

[Cooper]

Bogus statement because the net balance of money put/taken from the system by every illegal is always negative. Plus they occupy a job some American could have. They also drive wages down for everyone.

If you fine their employers, they wouldn't have jobs n the US, there would be no incentive for them to stay in a high-cost country with no income.

 

[magoo]

If you fine their employers, they wouldn't have jobs n the US, there would be no incentive for them to stay in a high-cost country with no income.

I would increase salaries because of humanitarian reasons. Employers would need to pay 5x the average salary. And make higher contributions to social security. This would sound nice to the population and at the same time destroy job vacancies for outsiders. And it would work.

 

[Cooper]

I would increase salaries because of humanitarian reasons. Employers would need to pay 5x the average salary. And make higher contributions to social security. This would sound nice to the population and at the same time destroy job vacancies for outsiders. And it would work.

Raising minimum wage would have the same effect, fewer jobs.

They don't need to do that though, if you just make hiring illegals illegal and enforce it through fines on employers, the labor market will become tighter and you will see higher wages in industries like construction, food services, agriculture, as well as white collar jobs if you clamp down on H1Bs.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

This guy was a very red pill, but still supported Trump, guy. Most red pilled guys realized the election really didn't matter much in 2024, this guy thought Trump would be able to do some real good things. Looks like he now realizes how dire things really are.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Trump and his team have to get this fixed, and the only fix would be destroying Wall Street, and that isn't happening. Millions of young men like him; they would rightfully never lift a finger for this country and their only real move is to move out. I don't know if anyone in Trump's team realizes how dire it is, I hope they don't, instead of a Band-Aid we get full collapse from within.

 

[RedLagoon]

This guy was a very red pill, but still supported Trump, guy. Most red pilled guys realized the election really didn't matter much in 2024, this guy thought Trump would be able to do some real good things. Looks like he now realizes how dire things really are.

Bullshit, lots of "Millennials" are still now living at home. Don't get into the gas lighting that gen Y had / has it easy. Most moved out of home at 17 to die in Iraq or Afghanistan and if they didn't die they are now dealing with horrific chronic injury.

Edit: I'm not denying the struggles of the zoomers but there is a huge agenda to set these two generations up against each other.

It's the boomers (and to some extent Gen X) who could afford a Mustang and a house flipping burgers at 17.

 

[Aldebaran]

What does Israel have to do with Canada's trade deal with the US?

The answer: Nothing, and everything. Nothing, because they have nothing to do with each other. Everything, because Israel owns Trump.

Trump says Canada's move to recognise Palestinian state threatens trade deal

After Canada joined the UK and France in planning to recognise Palestine, Trump says the move makes it "very hard" to agree a trade deal.

www.bbc.com

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Bullshit, lots of "Millennials" are still now living at home. Don't get into the gas lighting that gen Y had / has it easy. Most moved out of home at 17 to die in Iraq or Afghanistan and if they didn't die they are now dealing with horrific chronic injury.

Edit: I'm not denying the struggles of the zoomers but there is a huge agenda to set these two generations up against each other.

It's the boomers (and to some extent Gen X) who could afford a Mustang and a house flipping burgers at 17.

I very much agree with you. You used to have these spiritual boomers in Gen X and Gen Y. I have battled with them for a long time, I still do.

A lot of them are now parents and a mix of being too busy to notice their country has gone to hell in a handbasket + not wanting to face the reality that their own children will suffer greatly and they are failing to pass on a better life to their kids, overwhelms them into fighting tooth and nail against me.

The guy I posted was one of these spiritual boomers. These people have the right mindset as far as you should be expected to work hard, and expected to live the right way, and things will work out for you. Like I said, often they have kids and think teaching this mentality to their kids is all that is needed. And this was true, up until the Obama years, and then this started to fall apart. And now things are worse than ever before, with the idiots in charge pushing for more of the same at a faster pace.

My point is, the spiritual boomers are starting to wake up and admit that their way of thinking is outdated and Gen Z is correct to not buy into this sick country.

I think this battle between Gen Y and Gen Z will be short lived. Gen Y is about to be put on the chopping block for replacement workers, and they will face the same realities as Gen Z. I am Gen X, so I am already financially free from this system, I no longer have to work because I saw this coming over 25 years ago and started saving every penny and investing back then. But it is on my mind all the time, due to wanting kids and wondering what kind of life I can pass on to them here.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

The pressure is rising, we just have to keep doing what we are doing and continue to red pill more and more.

 

[Острог]

The pressure is rising, we just have to keep doing what we are doing and continue to red pill more and more.

The great awakening exists and is certainly here to stay.

 

[Cooper]

Their weapon to counter this are heavy-handed censorship laws in conjunction with eye of sauron Palantir big data surveillance.