Donald Trump: Criticism & Debate Thread

[It_Is_My_Time]

Ok then what are you going to do about it besides nonstop posting online? I don’t share the view at all. The only people that think like this are those that spend all day online reading tweets. I live in the US and my only complaint mainly is the female situation because most women have become like prostitutes. Besides that, despite the problems in this country I live quite well and have done well for myself despite the ‘satanic elites’. You either adapt and become anti-fragile or get screwed. You either take action by waking more people up or complain about our leaders.

Think the economy and hyperinflation are going to wipe us out? Buy BTC and gold.

Think the US is going to collapse? Then take your money elsewhere and leave.

Think China will rule the world? Learn Mandarin and move there.

All of these things are more productive than posting 100,000 words about how Trump isn’t doing what you want or voting is meaningless.

I am glad you are doing well. Obviously by your reaction, something is causing you to resist a little bit. Maybe you realize you are doing well, but if you have kids one day, they will face great struggle as things get worse. I don't know what it might be, but think about it a while and if you want, feel free to share it with me.

What am I going to do, or better yet, what am I doing?

I am using my God given skills. I have been doing A LOT of reflection lately, about my life, my path, my purpose and what I should do. I plan to leave my fulltime job soon, semi-retire, and focus on the markets and day trading. If I am successful at this, I will do many great things in this material world. If not, at least I tried, and I got out a corporate job that was crushing my soul.

I have been talking to a lot of people online about this path of purpose/consciousness, and studying, and learning as much as I can. I would love to discuss this subject more on here, but I want to learn more first before giving others advice on it. I came to a very large realization just a few days ago, as far as my path forward, and it was a great experience.

I am also spending time online helping to wake up young White men. It seems that this is naturally happening, but I have my own ways and add what little I can. Without White men, the next global ruling class will be either the current satanic elites, or the Chinese, and neither will do the world much good, so it is up to White men to wake up and restore balance. Whether this happens or not, I do not know, nor does it matter much to me, just that I tried my best.

I very much disagree with moving elsewhere. Packing up and moving is what Whites have been doing post WW2, and the results are a disaster. Packing up and running isn't the answer. And there really are few places Whites can still go and feel safe, which is great, burn the boats and move inland as you have no choice. How will Whites and their mixed race children be treated once the west collapses? I don't know, this is something we have never faced in human history, what little we can see, is it will not be good.

Trying to fit the square peg into the round hole, or, trying to fit your desires into this world, is a fruitless effort. You have to admit to yourself that trying to force things isn't going to work, and happiness comes from within and with that wisdom you can then help other White men wake up to the realities we face. Building your own path, that others can learn from, is the process we should performing right now. This combined with online communication about the realities we face. Both of which I am working on right now.

 

[GrecoRoman]

I am glad you are doing well. Obviously by your reaction, something is causing you to resist a little bit. Maybe you realize you are doing well, but if you have kids one day, they will face great struggle as things get worse. I don't know what it might be, but think about it a while and if you want, feel free to share it with me.

What am I going to do, or better yet, what am I doing?

I am using my God given skills. I have been doing A LOT of reflection lately, about my life, my path, my purpose and what I should do. I plan to leave my fulltime job soon, semi-retire, and focus on the markets and day trading. If I am successful at this, I will do many great things in this material world. If not, at least I tried, and I got out a corporate job that was crushing my soul.

I have been talking to a lot of people online about this path of purpose/consciousness, and studying, and learning as much as I can. I would love to discuss this subject more on here, but I want to learn more first before giving others advice on it. I came to a very large realization just a few days ago, as far as my path forward, and it was a great experience.

I am also spending time online helping to wake up young White men. It seems that this is naturally happening, but I have my own ways and add what little I can. Without White men, the next global ruling class will be either the current satanic elites, or the Chinese, and neither will do the world much good, so it is up to White men to wake up and restore balance. Whether this happens or not, I do not know, nor does it matter much to me, just that I tried my best.

I very much disagree with moving elsewhere. Packing up and moving is what Whites have been doing post WW2, and the results are a disaster. Packing up and running isn't the answer. And there really are few places Whites can still go and feel safe, which is great, burn the boats and move inland as you have no choice. How will Whites and their mixed race children be treated once the west collapses? I don't know, this is something we have never faced in human history, what little we can see, is it will not be good.

Trying to fit the square peg into the round hole, or, trying to fit your desires into this world, is a fruitless effort. You have to admit to yourself that trying to force things isn't going to work, and happiness comes from within and with that wisdom you can then help other White men wake up to the realities we face. Building your own path, that others can learn from, is the process we should performing right now. This combined with online communication about the realities we face. Both of which I am working on right now.

It’s good you’re doing all this stuff.

Here’s my point to put it succinctly and the reason I’m posting like this.

What’s the reason that for the most part conservatives have conserved nothing and tend to lose generation after generation? Things keep moving towards the libtards no matter what happens? The topic is complex and there are several reasons both material and spiritual some of which are not in our control.

What I’ve observed in my life however is a big reason is that conservatives are too passive. They want to be left alone and live their lives. They are high on the complaining and negativity spectrum and low on the action and making things happen spectrum. Or when they do try to ‘make things happen’ they choose idiotic paths like forming violent groups that are infiltrated or directed by the Feds. Or they sit around and think they can’t do anything and do nothing.

The liberals however take over institutions, universities, mentor their own, and help each other gain positions of power all over society. In fact, the Indians and Jews do this too. All the while conservatives mostly sit around and quibble or focus on side issues and continue to lose.

So my point is some type of action even if small can have a big effect and it’s vastly superior to doing nothing. People underestimate the power they have to make changes.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

It’s good you’re doing all this stuff.

Here’s my point to put it succinctly and the reason I’m posting like this.

What’s the reason that for the most part conservatives have conserved nothing and tend to lose generation after generation? Things keep moving towards the libtards no matter what happens? The topic is complex and there are several reasons both material and spiritual some of which are not in our control.

What I’ve observed in my life however is a big reason is that conservatives are too passive. They want to be left alone and live their lives. They are high on the complaining and negativity spectrum and low on the action and making things happen spectrum. Or when they do try to ‘make things happen’ they choose idiotic paths like forming violent groups that are infiltrated or directed by the Feds. Or they sit around and think they can’t do anything and do nothing.

The liberals however take over institutions, universities, mentor their own, and help each other gain positions of power all over society. In fact, the Indians and Jews do this too. All the while conservatives mostly sit around and quibble or focus on side issues and continue to lose.

So my point is some type of action even if small can have a big effect and it’s vastly superior to doing nothing. People underestimate the power they have to make changes.

The reason is much more simple. The same people own both parties and have done these same tricks for thousands of years. There are great podcasts that go into deep detail on it. What are experiencing right now in the USA is far from new, it is just a repeat of the same playbook used by the same people for thousands of years.

Before Trump, Roy Cohn had a man named Joseph McCarthy, who was labeled as a super bad fascist, while throwing the scent off of the bankers and onto their communist puppets in Hollywood. You can find this example, over and over again, throughout history.

Conservative voters on the other hand are lead by conservative news, blaming the 'Demonrats" and "free market capitalism" which are both paths to nowhere, draining their energy into the abyss. They are good people, who are misled, and end up unhappy because they work endless hours to pay for things they disagree with, but they don't see another path forward.

Eventually the system will collapse, probably not too far off either, but who knows for sure. When it does, either good men will pick up the mantel and do all the hard work needed to kick the third worlders out and rebuild from the ground up, or they will not. If not, then it will be China's world.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

I hate this man, but he is accidentally revealing voting is a wasted effort. Trump really messed this one up, he exposed too much of what a fraud he and voting really is.

 

[Wutang]

I have been talking to a lot of people online about this path of purpose/consciousness, and studying, and learning as much as I can.

I am also spending time online helping to wake up young White men.

GrecoRoman asked what you are doing besides spending all your time online posting and your answer is "I spend all my time online posting"

I'm beating a dead horse but hasn't the fact that multiple members on this forum have basically made the same criticisms on your posts that I have over and over again means that you aren't actually having the positive influence you think you are having and that if anything, you are actually turning people away from the cause you are trying to promote?

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

GrecoRoman asked what you are doing besides spending all your time online posting and your answer is "I spend all my time online posting"

I'm beating a dead horse but hasn't the fact that multiple members on this forum have basically made the same criticisms on your posts that I have over and over again means that you aren't actually having the positive influence you think you are having and that if anything, you are actually turning people away from the cause you are trying to promote?

A majority of my time is online, whether it is this subject or self-growth and consciousness, but there is also time I am not online and get to have great conversations.

I wouldn't still be doing it if I didn't receive PM's or even people from here messaging me elsewhere to discuss this in further detail and thank me for it. Acts of kindness goes a long ways, both internally and externally.

 

[Wutang]

A majority of my time is online, whether it is this subject or self-growth and consciousness, but there is also time I am not online and get to have great conversations.

I wouldn't still be doing it if I didn't receive PM's or even people from here messaging me elsewhere to discuss this in further detail and thank me for it. Acts of kindness goes a long ways, both internally and externally.

Do the people who PM looking to you for mentorship and advice and guidance exist in the same dimension of reality as the 20 year old girls that hit on you in the break room at Applebee's' when you are working at your second very social job?

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Do the people who PM looking to you for mentorship and advice and guidance exist in the same dimension of reality as the 20 year old girls that hit on you in the break room at Applebee's' when you are working at your second very social job?

Sorry this upsets you so much. I don't know why that is, but only you can work through it and figure it out. Something is causing you to have an emotional response to all of this and I would suggest figuring it out so you can find peace.

 

[Get2choppaaa]

I am glad you are doing well. Obviously by your reaction, something is causing you to resist a little bit. Maybe you realize you are doing well, but if you have kids one day, they will face great struggle as things get worse. I don't know what it might be, but think about it a while and if you want, feel free to share it with me.

This has been the statement of time in memoriun.

Hell it's one of the central themes in King Lear.

It's chicken little talk.

Pretending that the US is somehow closer to the brink of civil war is copium.

 

[Get2choppaaa]

Sorry this upsets you so much. I don't know why that is, but only you can work through it and figure it out. Something is causing you to have an emotional response to all of this and I would suggest figuring it out so you can find peace.

We could say your soon posting is an emotional response as well.

You should take a page out of Sam Hyde book and be white killed and not a doomer

 

[Wutang]

Sorry this upsets you so much. I don't know why that is, but only you can work through it and figure it out. Something is causing you to have an emotional response to all of this and I would suggest figuring it out so you can find peace.

Don't worry, my life is fine. That's why I have no need to tell the people that they are doomed and to not have kids and to prepare to be transformed into fertilizer by China or to talk about how much I hate working. Perhaps you will find the same peace as well. Have you started going to church yet?

 

[Cooper]

Back on topic, this is a very bad look for Trump :



"MTG got an email in her private Gmail explicitly threatening her son’s life and when she sent it to Trump he ultimately replied that “she had only herself to blame.” Five days later she announced she was leaving the House.

“Hurr durr why would they* khill Charlie???”

Looks like the intended message has been received by just about everyone: get out, get in-line or get ran over."

 

[Cooper]

Trump blocked off a clean water project in Colorado out of spite for Rep. Boebert, and her vote in favor of releasing the Epstein files..

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

This has been the statement of time in memoriun.

Hell it's one of the central themes in King Lear.

It's chicken little talk.

Pretending that the US is somehow closer to the brink of civil war is copium.

I don't expect civil war, I expect collapse, more like the USSR, and then afterwards I have no idea what will happen.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Don't worry, my life is fine. That's why I have no need to tell the people that they are doomed and to not have kids and to prepare to be transformed into fertilizer by China or to talk about how much I hate working. Perhaps you will find the same peace as well. Have you started going to church yet?

It is about much more than just you, and I believe deep down in your subconscious you know this to be true, and that is the cause of your blockage. I sincerely advise you to work through it, it will bring a lot of happiness.

 

[Shaquilleoatmeal]

It’s good you’re doing all this stuff.

Here’s my point to put it succinctly and the reason I’m posting like this.

What’s the reason that for the most part conservatives have conserved nothing and tend to lose generation after generation? Things keep moving towards the libtards no matter what happens? The topic is complex and there are several reasons both material and spiritual some of which are not in our control.

What I’ve observed in my life however is a big reason is that conservatives are too passive. They want to be left alone and live their lives. They are high on the complaining and negativity spectrum and low on the action and making things happen spectrum. Or when they do try to ‘make things happen’ they choose idiotic paths like forming violent groups that are infiltrated or directed by the Feds. Or they sit around and think they can’t do anything and do nothing.

The reason is more simple.

Women having the right to vote, and the vote being rigged:

 

[Shaquilleoatmeal]

We could say your soon posting is an emotional response as well.

You should take a page out of Sam Hyde book and be white killed and not a doomer

Bro several months ago someone told you being white pilled was the response to voting being useless instead of the whiny “black pill” accusations made by yourself and you ignored it.

 

[Cooper]

I don't expect civil war, I expect collapse, more like the USSR, and then afterwards I have no idea what will happen.

I think we will keep having a gradual decline in purchasing power across the West, and a shrinking middle class. More snakes/chutes, fewer ladders in this economic game, and fewer liberties to go along, more wayward young women, deranged older women and feral fatherless youth.

This really started in the 1980s-90s, and is accelerating a bit the last 10 years. You look at Google photos of restaurant menus and see older prices from the late 2010s being listed and watch them gradually blow up year to year.

Trump is throwing just enough red meat to keep half of his base with the program, while putting most of his efforts into fighting the handful of decent politicians in DC.

 

[Wutang]

It is about much more than just you, and I believe deep down in your subconscious you know this to be true, and that is the cause of your blockage. I sincerely advise you to work through it, it will bring a lot of happiness.

Thanks for the advice but if I want examples to follow on how to be happy I would prefer to listen to someone that hasn't talked about about how much he hates his life and who only seems to display any sort of joy when he gushes at the thought of the west being reduced into fertilizer by China. Then again you don't seem to have a problem giving people advice on stuff that you don't have any experience with as we've seen with your datasheets on how to date 20 year olds girls by not drinking coffee despite having openly said you have never dated so I'm not surprised you think you know something about to bring happiness despite having never shown a inkling of being happy with your life.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

I think we will keep having a gradual decline in purchasing power across the West, and a shrinking middle class. More snakes/chutes, fewer ladders in this economic game, and fewer liberties to go along, more wayward young women, deranged older women and feral fatherless youth.

This really started in the 1980s-90s, and is accelerating a bit the last 10 years. You look at Google photos of restaurant menus and see older prices from the late 2010s being listed and watch them gradually blow up year to year.

Trump is throwing just enough red meat to keep half of his base with the program, while putting most of his efforts into fighting the handful of decent politicians in DC.

I agree with everything you said. The one thing I am noticing is that so few are satisfied and the anger is picking up quickly. At the same time, this system is having to borrow more and more just to keep from going under. We bring in more third worlders, the system just gets weaker at a quickening pace. We can now see the water swirling above the drain.

How much longer is anyone's guess. But I don't think they can keep the charade up much longer, 10 to 20 years, unless they make some major revision and correct it to back to say 2005 levels of fraud and degeneracy, and then maybe they can keep it going a few more generations.